#107698 - 06/25/05 04:24 AM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: VKat]
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CoS Warlock
Registered: 06/29/03
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Loc: Germany
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To get things clear, one must understand that in a society there is not only "the elite", but there are many forms of elite, such as the intellectual elite, the economic elite, etc., since the term elite is to be used relative within a certain context. An elite is a certain percentage of people who are de facto superior within their considered context, which means that "elite" is always a relative term. Someone may see himself as elite, but if he is not superior in the real world, this means nothing and is just self-deceit.
The Alien Elite, as accurately described by Magister Paradise in the Satanism FAQ, has different standards, but the Alien Elite is still an elite in the correct meaning of the word, since those who are described by the term are "in many ways, better than most of the human sheep." [...] "and possessing pragmatic and forward-thinking values that are above the interest of the masses, plus adding the intellect and instinct, the creativity and the resourcefulness, and all of those qualities reflected in our books".
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#107699 - 06/25/05 12:49 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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Registered: 04/09/05
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This is very well written, and I enjoyed reading it. I certainly agree with you on what it means to be elite.
People who accomplish their own goals for their own gratification are certainly the most elite. I know that when I work on accomplishing my goals, the person I am satisfying is myself. If I impress others, that’s fine; however, it is not my intention.
I don’t care what kinds of things other people have. I have what I need, and when I need something else, I’ll buy it. I get annoyed when people brag about how great they think they are because they have this or that. I certainly agree that those who feel a need to brag about themselves are insecure, because all the braggarts I have ever known were people who were insecure with themselves. Their insecurity is quite obvious.
A while ago, I was in a store looking at magazines. Just for fun, I flipped through a few of those herd mentality magazines for teenage girls, such as “Teen Beat” and “YM”. All those magazines are about is how great all the popular celebrities are and how to be like them, rather than being yourself. They practically give this “You HAVE to be like this or else people won’t like you” kind of message, and that can be very influential to most kids. I find that to be very distracting and degrading. Just a way to suck the individual character out of kids who are at the age when they should be developing their own characters and finding themselves. But, the herd will be the herd.
Anyone who can truly accomplish anything should not need the approval or satisfaction from others. A true accomplishment comes from the power one has within them self. Accomplishments make one elite, and Satan is the power of accomplishment.
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"Twenty percent of your priorities will give you 80 percent of your production, IF you spend your time, energy, money, and personnel on the top 20 percent of your priorities." ~The Pareto Principle, as stated by John C. Maxwell
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#107700 - 06/27/05 05:54 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Jack_Bauer]
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Registered: 03/23/05
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Loc: Northern California
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#107701 - 06/28/05 03:08 AM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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Registered: 06/25/05
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Loc: Central-Europe, Hungary
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I agree with this ascpect of being elite, but I have some notices here. Some people go too far with this "I am unique so I buy unique stuff". I mention this, because there's a small danger in being "unique", without having enough brain. Example> If a popular company starts to sell cheap, good quality cell phones, I'll buy it if I like it and of course if I'm in need of it. But the herd will buy the same one. So what now? I got a herd-phone, great. But I don't care because I like this thingy. Buying another phone (that's 2-3 time more expensive), just because everyone buys this one , is a proof of stupidity. So if you're unique not because of your unique stuff but because of your unique thinking and willpower, then you're on the right path (which is on the left hand  ) So have what you like. (but not definetly what others don't like) Seeing through people and events around you, is also a part of being elite. You know their motivations, you know their weaknesses, you know what they think and you know what's happening around you. And you're free to do anything with this knowledge (within the boundaries of laws of course). This makes you feel you're "above" them. And so you are... PS> Great forum, great topics! grats
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#107704 - 06/29/05 10:23 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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Registered: 06/06/04
Posts: 29
Loc: Los Angeles, Ca
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Dag-on, I can never keep up with these threads.... My understanding has been that it is the "quality" of life which a Satanist values. Not the "quantity". I find the parallel with what LeVay said about truely loving and respecting those who truely deserve it. I often find my self distracted by the way the people around me think. The things they value. I can't relate with them so I'm always reminded that I'm not like them, rather than they are not like me. So that's where my 'elite' mentality originates, the fact that I'm different, I am better, more advanced more evolved. And clearly without their approval.
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#107705 - 07/01/05 10:00 AM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Maya]
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CoS Witch
Registered: 07/25/01
Posts: 12943
Loc: The Solid State
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Also, a sad irony is that many herdlings, because they so strongly value society's litmus tests and benchmarks, actually deprive themselves of actual success, as to my mind, authentic success is about accomplishing personal goals, meeting personal needs, and attaining a general sense of *true* joy and competency in life.
A big house and a larger paycheck will not necessarily dissuade you from putting a gun in your mouth at 50, or drinking yourself to death starting at age 32.
For example, Joe Bloggs thinks that real success is to have a house of a certain size, and a car of a certain make. He also thinks it is to have a wife, and a certain number of children. So, at 19, he gets married, and his wife pops out a few crotch maggots. Right away, they start lusting after a big condo in Snootington Heights Gated Community, because that's what it means to be "successful." In the end, Joe gives himself a hernia because he buys a big house, a nice car, and various technological knick-knacks that he has to spend his whole life paying off; because he and his wife don't see eye-to-eye over the course of their lives because they hooked up too young; because he keeps getting promoted at a job that fundamentally bores and angers him; and because each of their little rugrats adds to the cost of living further.
But, Joe could've been truly contented if he had listened to himself and decided that his true calling was to share a little shack on the beach in Oregon with his dog and his girlfriend, and work as a landscape painter on the side. It ain't glamorous or sexy, but for some people, that is where they will be most happy.
Of course, your mileage may differ, but what counts is that YOU decide what your life will look like. My dream house is destined to be quite a project, and it will probably be rather expensive, but it's what *I* want.
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#107707 - 07/12/05 09:14 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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CoS Warlock
Registered: 10/29/04
Posts: 3120
Loc: Ohio
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Your post is fantastic. Kudos. Quote:
Personally, I feel more "useful" and more "alive" when I'm doing blue collar-type work. It's a joke around the office that if anything needs to be lifted or carried somewhere--ask Jack. But the money ain't in lifting boxes...
This subtle comment really resonates with me. In addition, I think it makes a larger statement about human nature, and how weaker people can be manipulated by these same feelings of "being more useful" or "more alive".
The last line(s) of your comment show your true satanic nature (that which sets you apart from the weaker people), in that you realize what makes you "feel" more useful doesn't necessarily help you to be more useful, - or help you to achieve your desires/goals.
Words of Wisdom, Agt. As always! 
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#107708 - 07/12/05 10:28 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Mr. Obsidian]
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Registered: 06/03/02
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Loc: Oregon
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#107709 - 07/13/05 05:29 AM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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CoS Member
Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 2785
Loc: America
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I often hear about people wanting to “get ahead”, but they never seem to be able to say what they are trying to get ahead of! The rat race is for rats, excellent post!
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#107711 - 01/07/06 11:23 PM
Re: What is Elite?
[Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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CoS Warlock
Registered: 12/29/05
Posts: 708
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This thread has been most informative. As most points have been covered extensively, I will keep my post short.
Some years ago I came across a quote, which is what I believe makes one elite. Obviously, some could take it out of context...
"To strive for the highest life with all my power"
Highest life? It's not about the most money, or helping the most people... It's about deciding what I and I alone want for my life, and then getting that life for myself. I don't care if some wants match that of the herd's. I care about what I want. I will strive for these things. My interests, I will strive to become better in these. All the aspects of myself that I consider important, I will always work on, till my dying breath.
It matters not what type of work, or interests one has. It's about choosing your OWN life, and living it. Simple.
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"Some people dream of success... while others wake up and work hard at it." - Author unknown
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