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#11879 - 09/10/03 04:08 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: NaamahPink]
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I happen to live a bit north of there (in West Palm area). If you were going to move down here, I Definetely concur to Fort Lauderdale being the city of choice. I haven't moved there only because it is simple enough for me to take a half hour drive from my own city.

It is important to note of course that the rampant promiscuity is tied in with certain other underground elements of the city, like its clicky music scene (they're all friendly enough), and the heavy importation and usage of substances. It's a fun city, if a bit pretentious. It's really the "run-down beach town" appearance that gets my attention, combined with the general fun laid back frame of mind Florida has.

Hope you come down. You'll enjoy it.

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#11880 - 09/10/03 04:29 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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I think several studies (which I will source if I can find the original sources) link older loss of virginity to certain sexual inhibitions.

I would be interested to read those, if noone else. I didn't lose my virginity till about a year ago, when I was 23, and I've made no secret about my particular sexual proclivities. The reasoning behind it taking so long was not one of any conscious choice. To put it bluntly, it took that long to actually find someone that would have sex with me, as sad as that sounds

Anyway, I'll keep my eye open for those studies, if you should find them. Or, if you're unable, perhaps you could point me in the right direction.

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#11881 - 09/10/03 04:52 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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Satanism's relation on sex has already been shown by those before me, so I'll just briefy relate my own for you.

Sex is sex, love is love (I recently read an article about how people brainwash themselves to bring themselves above animals spiritually, and it did include making us *think* our sex isn't animalistic). I love sex. Hmm. I definetely separate them; like Shiva, most of the partners I've had were no where near to love. I have had a considerable number of partners, and have also participated in multiple partner sex, in both ways you mentioned - separately and group. With different partners, come along different desires and kinks, which can grow on a person .

I was also raised in a Catholic household, though the only one in it that was strict was my mother. However, my adventerous personality as a child caused me to raise questions of sex at an early age. (must've been all those porn mags laying around...)

What I can't understand about your situation, is how is it possible that your school mates or friends didn't bring up the subjects??? I mean, I was seven when I asked my mom, and that was basically for affirmation of what I already knew! Not to sound presumptuous, but were your parents like Carrie's mother (in the movie)??

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#11882 - 09/10/03 04:52 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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"As a male, it's my job to spread my seed as much as is humanly possible. "

I can't for the life of me remember who said it, or where they said it ... but there was something really good I read very recently (damn my memory) that talked about how it's not actually the male's job to spread as much seed as possible.

It's the male's job to ensure that he a) spreads his seed, and b) can then make sure that the mother is safe and well feed, therefore carrying the child to term, and c) is then able to provide for that child, thus ensuring that the child will make it to adulthood, having its own children, and keeping the species alive.

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#11883 - 09/10/03 07:17 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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I think sex is a dangerous threat to love, at least the christian love, or which they should have had. I experiment sex at an early age for an obscur reason. I've watched countless of porno but I had only three sex partners in my adulhood. It's been 4 years since my last sexual relation. Love it's the strongest feeling, which can make you change people around you. It's not only what you feel with someone else, but also what you feel when you work. The problem now is intellectual work is very difficult to accomplish with love because school foster competition between individual. It's hard to love someone with whom you compete. Sex it's very effective at killing your love you will otherwise need to give to work effectively, particulary with hard intellectual work. I think this is why satanism embrace sex, because their certainly been hurt for knowing something by an ignorant who doesn't have this sensibility coming from intellectual appetite. Before, we competed for terrestrial space. Now, we compete for intellectual space. And who say competition, say reproduction and all the primal instincts. You can have love with an active sexual life, but there is no strong bound. It's very hard to have christian love in the actual society. For a woman, if your really have love inside you, most man will see it, and will compete stupidiously to have your heart. Especially in north america culture, where emotions are a high selling point. (Think about all the artist which, in some sort, learn with love and have enough character to keep it). I don't think you will never find a powerful love, so friendship and sex is an alternative. I sensed love from a mulsuman woman, which is really different, really strong, really engaged. In north america, love doesn't really exist. Men are too exposed to sexually attractive woman images. As a man, I was addicted to those images for many years. Very effective way to control people. By the way, I'm very disfunctionnal because of my rejection of sex. And I'm locked up with love. I'm the WhiteWizard. Hail satan, hail sex .... for 1000 years only!!

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#11884 - 09/10/03 10:32 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: CPayne]
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One case I recall specifically involved an Asian couple whose marraige was arranged by their families. When they were married, they actually believed that sleeping in the same bed produced pregnancy, withou sex! They didn't even have the slightest inkling of what sex was, and went to a fertility clinic with this "ailment." The situation was discovered...and of course they were shocked. They did eventually concede to have sex, as a reproductive duty.

I meant this in terms of mental, not physical, dysfunction. I can't totally assess your case of course, but it had not occurred to me that your proclivities would be an example. I will of course make the sources known if I can find them (if they're still online).
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#11885 - 09/10/03 10:46 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: Taliana]
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Actually, there is a biological argument for male adultery (and female, but a different scenario).

Male adultery ideally (on a biological level) results in impregnating another's mate, without his knowledge, hence causing some unwitting male to use his resources to rear another's offspring. All of the genetic benefits with none of the resource drawbacks.

Female adultery on the other hand can result in getting the best of both worlds; such as an older male with resources, but not necessarily good genetics, as a caregiver, and a younger, more genetically desireable male who may not have enough resources to take care of offspring yet. In other words, its getting quality genes and quality resources from different males.
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#11886 - 09/10/03 11:26 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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*laughs* Nice one. But any male who uses that as an excuse for his infidelity with me is likely to end up without his equipment ^.^

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#11887 - 09/10/03 11:42 PM Re: Romantic Relationships. [Re: Nemo]
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Finding a partner who shares mutual love and respect with you is wonderfully capped by sexual pleasure. Such relationships often preclude the more common drive for adulterous promiscuity in my experience.





Nice words, you hit the nail on the head.
I absolutely agree with you, Magister Nemo.
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#11888 - 09/11/03 12:55 AM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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It scares the hell out of me:

Not for the faint of heart

Just click: Vogeltjes Dans / The Birdy Dance


Edited by DaveHell (09/11/03 12:56 AM)

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#11889 - 09/11/03 06:25 AM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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Hello all! Please excuse me if I'm being a bit forward, but would any of you be willing to share with me your opinion of sex?




Like Bill Hicks, I've decided, for me, it will take one very special woman (or, a bunch of average ones) to keep me satisfied.

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I'm asking because, and please correct me if I'm wrong, most Satanists have sex with more than one person. Not at the same time, of course, since that would be kinky.




You're projecting. Perhaps you wouldn't have sex with more than one person at the same time but that's never stopped me from doing the same thing.

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But I'm assuming that a person who supports the Satanic philosophy would experience more than one sex partner over their lifetime. That's something I'm uncomfortable doing because of my view of sex: as a total surrender to the other person, total commitment to them, and permanent spiritual, mental, and physical bonding.




You sound like most of the women I see around me in California, many of whom practice "serial monogamy" (having multiple partners in a series rather than at the same time). Nobody said you had to have sex with more than one person. If you had read (and understood )your copy of The Satanic Bible, you would know this.

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Has anyone made a distinction between having sex and making love?




Yes, about 99% of the male population! Nobody ever said you had to be in love with the person you're having sex with.
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#11890 - 09/11/03 12:38 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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Sex and love are two different things, that when brought together can enhance each other.

Going on a rollercoaster rocks. My special lady friend rocks, and I love her. Going on a rollercoaster with my special lady friend makes riding the rollercoaster even better, but I don't need her to ride it with me for it to still be a great experience.

One thing I love to hate about modern herd mentality is their idea that sex is very special and that when they have sex with someone, it's giving that person a very special gift. Cut the crap! Unless you REALLY know what you're doing in bed, it AINT that special. We live in a world where everyone is told that they are equals and we're all special, including our gift of sex, no matter how lame of a fuck one might be. I'm in tears from the hilarity, and yet tragic sadness of it all.
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#11891 - 09/11/03 12:45 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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whatever floats your boat

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#11892 - 09/11/03 04:38 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex?
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"Just click: Vogeltjes Dans / The Birdy Dance "

*chokes*

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#11893 - 09/11/03 06:09 PM Re: How does a Satanist feel about sex? [Re: Mason_Rust]
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I hear you. I think that each person is different in their view on sex though. I knew one person who felt upset by her last relationship, so she shut down and didn't have sex for 10 years. I know someone else who has orgies in the bedroom a lot. I think sex is exciting, but I don't always want to do it. To me, I need it to be fully released in my magic, some people don't. I just think of it like eating. It's just a body need that helps out my magic too.

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