#123346 - 06/29/06 08:20 PM
Re: A Satanic nation.
[Re: Colonel_Akula]
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Registered: 02/16/05
Posts: 1413
Loc: Banana, Canada
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I work full time, thanks. 7:30 to 3:30 every day sometimes weekends. I pay rent. And I don’t get it all back when income tax comes around. You have a lot of misconceptions about students and my opinions on "free" healthcare.
How about a different perspective. --- Imagine yourself, making around 50k a year, you also have a wife who stays at home to look after your, very young, daughter and is pregnant with another. You don’t drink, you don’t smoke and you save up your money as much as you can. You love your job and it gives you a lot of benefits, such as 30% off dental, 80% off medications and just for shits and giggles, you have health insurance covers (your premium is $10,000 a years plus $4,000 per extra family member). Imagine your daughter (two years old), whom you love more than anything in the world gets very sick, say a collapsed lung due to something very unknown to you at the time (turns out it was a mass of tumors).
Ambulance costs: Covered. Emergency room cost: Covered. Emergency open chest surgery on a baby, to remove tumors and save lung: Not covered: $15,000
Same year, your child trips and breaks her leg, doctor can’t fix it. Guess what, another surprise! She has a false joint in her leg, she’s going to get leg braces. Uh oh, her leg wont heal, guy who made her leg braces reports you to child services because he thinks you are abusing her. More test! Well lucky you, the doctors found out she has weak bones, you are not going to have to deal with social workers. However, she has to have surgery on her leg. Luckily the leg braces are covered, however the surgery isn’t. You fork over $5,000.
Now your wife has to go in for a c-section, this baby is perfectly healthy, never needs surgery, and she only has to go to the emerge a total of four times in her life. She gets one EEG and a CAT scan. Nothing serious, just friendly advice to not ingest certain items to avoid seizures and migraines. You are relieved. You spent a total of $500 on her by the time she reached 18. She now pays for her own medical.
You older daughter reaches the age of eight. She has had some test in the past years, mostly covered by your insurance. Had minor surgeries, such as her tonsils taken out, that was covered. She starts experiencing severe pain for no reason. Congratulations, your daughter has Cancer. She also has a rare condition that makes chemotherapy impossible. Your insurance doesn’t cover most of it. You’re now seriously in debt due to all the bank loans you took out to save your little girl. Your health premiums went up as well.
Oh yeah, and you yourself have developed a few health problems due to aging and consuming too much sodium each day or something.
So fast forward to her being 21, graduating from college (she had straight As all through highschool). You were curios as to how much your bright child “cost”. They send you the paper with the total amount of money every single procedure cost since she was an infant, up to the time you are now sitting in the audience watching her graduate. As she grabs her diploma and smiles at you and walks off the stage to hug you. You think to yourself.
“Yes, she is definitely worth 1.2 million* dollars.”
But its ok, you didn’t have any government support, no one’s taxes helped. You managed to be able to get a nice $700k debt (after of course your insurance company gave you the finger) before you decided to prostitute your wife and youngest child. You refused all charity and other help from anyone, just so you wont have to be one of those “needy” and “weak” people. You would have rather seen that money going in to support more military funding and the new energy program instead of your own daughter (who is a producer, not a consumer).
There, a different perspective. Now, how would you view our “free” healthcare after going through all that? How would you feel in that situation? Would you let your kid die? Would you send her to low quality hospitals to save money? Would you still hate the idea of free healthcare? Would you call your other daughter “needy” because she is glad her sister is alive?
I love my free healthcare, I couldn’t care less who else was being covered by it because I have my sister (except for of course people who need medical attention as the result of their own choices, such as sports injuries or people getting ran over by cars as the result of them not paying attention). And no, I am not one of those hippy -feminists-anti-military chuds who demands everything to be free. I am strongly against welfare and subsidized housing. So you can stop quoting “free” and then saying “stuff”. I only said I love my free healthcare, mainly because of loved ones.
Edited by tovasshi (06/29/06 08:22 PM)
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#123348 - 06/29/06 09:09 PM
Re: A Satanic nation.
[Re: Magister_Lang]
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Registered: 02/16/05
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Loc: Banana, Canada
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I know it is not free. It is subsidized through our taxes. It is just commonly refered to as "free".
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#123351 - 06/29/06 09:33 PM
Re: A Satanic nation.
[Re: Colonel_Akula]
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Registered: 06/22/06
Posts: 86
Loc: Lemuria
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My granddad had an issue down here in australia when he tried to get a job at a certain place and they said they can't employ him, it's for the 'aboriginals' only and he said 'that's racist' and they said no it's not... the system down here trys to say ok if aboriginals want to be equal then we'll give them a wider variety of job prospects to do so...
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#123352 - 06/29/06 09:40 PM
Re: A Satanic nation.
[Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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Registered: 02/16/05
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Loc: Banana, Canada
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I pay taxes, therefore I pay for it. I will pay more taxes later on, therefore I will still be paying for it.
It is not "free" it is just called "free".
This isn't an item or welfare we are talking about. This is someone's life. Someone I love. Someone who contributes back. Someone who isn't a leech.
self preservation
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