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#148183 - 03/01/06 01:26 PM Re: My Future Children [Re: Tathariant]
DataLore Offline


Registered: 11/22/05
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Loc: Holodeck 3
I have just noted your residence, and can understand the reasoning behind your opinion on racism.

Where I reside "racism" is excessively used by self-victimizers, to gain a sympathetic competitive edge.


Edited by Maximilian (03/01/06 01:37 PM)

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#148184 - 03/01/06 02:18 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Tathariant]
crackergirl Offline


Registered: 11/15/05
Posts: 323
Loc: Kansas
Children influence their parents just as much as parents influence their children. Human beings are social creatures, and, therefore, cannot help but be influenced by each other. If the kids listen to idiot parents, they will be idiots. If they choose to listen to the parts they can actually use, they will be brilliant. They have a choice. Every kid that ever broke cerfew or sat in the back pew at church so the preacher wouldn't see him sleeping has exercised his freedom of choice. Parents don't exactly have a stranglehold on their children. The kids, though young and stupid most of the time, do have their own minds and they do have the ability to defy their parents (any parent could tell you so). Personal responsibility eventually comes into play, and at that point there is NO EXCUSE for bad behavior or general stupidity no matter how a person was raised.
There came a point in my life when I realized I didn't want to be a strict Baptist like my father, and I didn't want to be a hippie pagan like my mom. So I found my own path in life. I know it's hard to say no to mommy and daddy, but if these children don't learn to do that very thing once in a while, they're not worth all the words I've wasted on them here.
Parents can only be blamed for so much. Some of them really are completely retarded and they can't find an excuse for that, nor do they deserve one, but that reasoning can only go so far. No one cares how tortured you were as a child if you end up in jail every five minutes for your own stupidity. Personal responsibility plays a huge role in this. We are NOT products of our environment. We are products of PERSONAL CHOICES and FREE WILL.

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#148185 - 03/01/06 02:56 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Tejun2]
Witch_Scarlet Offline

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Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 787
Loc: Texas
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My only solution, which doesn't involve some form of Facism, is flooding the market with open minded and alternative approaches to religion and society. Which seems to be the case here today in America.




Don't you bet on that! Things haven't changed all that much in the US and aren't likely too any time soon. People aren't as open minded as you seem to think, and they are far from teaching or accepting alternatives to the good old fashioned mind boggling "Old time religion"!

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#148186 - 03/02/06 07:55 AM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
DarkApollyon Offline
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Loc: Brighton, England
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My only solution, which doesn't involve some form of Facism, is flooding the market with open minded and alternative approaches to religion and society. Which seems to be the case here today in America.




Don't you bet on that! Things haven't changed all that much in the US and aren't likely too any time soon. People aren't as open minded as you seem to think, and they are far from teaching or accepting alternatives to the good old fashioned mind boggling "Old time religion"!




I don't believe things are that dissimilar here in the UK. Even in the more 'cosmopoliton' areas like Brighton, where, on the surface things appear more open-minded and alternative, when you scratch beneath the surface you find the same old predjudices and closed mind-set.
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#148187 - 03/02/06 11:48 AM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: DarkApollyon]
Reznor Offline


Registered: 12/11/05
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I don't believe things are that dissimilar here in the UK. Even in the more 'cosmopoliton' areas like Brighton, where, on the surface things appear more open-minded and alternative, when you scratch beneath the surface you find the same old predjudices and closed mind-set.




I agree entirely!

The UK harbours some of the most backwards, draconian and narrow minded bastards that ever walked on two legs.

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#148188 - 03/02/06 03:25 PM Re: My Future Children [Re: Tathariant]
Tejun2 Offline


Registered: 11/27/05
Posts: 49
Loc: Oregon Coast
The race-war being a product of "nature" that helps us advance may have been the case in the past but things are changing. Nature is remaining constant only in the sense that it is ever changing and adapting.
Example: Where I live, for the past decade or so, hatchery salmon have been released into the water systems that are populated by native salmon. This has been done in a way that the survival of the original race of salmon has pretty much been destroyed, only because cross-breeding will eventually eliminate the original line. There is nothing we can do to stop it.
This is comparable to the survival of any pure human blood-line or race. The change is already in full swing and nothing can stop it, I think if it is accepted, that one day on a long enough time-line there will only be one race, then racism will cease to be an issue.
In nature, animals donot make any attempt to keep their race pure. The only reason there are native species and original species is because of distance from other species and traditional feeding grounds. When there are encounters, cross-breeding is just as positive of an attribute as keeping the line pure.
Humans exist in about every climate on earth, and if there was a human who had a dash of each race, they could also receive the abilities to deal with multiple climates, the hi-bred human, possessing the best attributes of each race could and should be able to out perform any pure blood.

my opinion only
Tejun

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#148189 - 03/02/06 07:38 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Reznor]
Tathariant Offline


Registered: 01/18/06
Posts: 78
Loc: Preston, UK
I have the pleasure of sharing a flat with them
But still, compared to where I moved from (Northern Ireland)England is a cosmopolitan paradise. But then, Northern Ireland is supposed to be the most racist country in Europe.

I'm enjoying reading this discussion, but we've moved off topic.

I don't mind though
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#148190 - 03/02/06 09:11 PM Re: Topic. [Re: Tathariant]
Witch_Scarlet Offline

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Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 787
Loc: Texas
Technically the topic hasnít changed. All of the shallow minded and neolithic mind set of society today dictates the future and how children are raised. Not a good thing in any country that thrives on control of the individuals beliefs and lifestyles.

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#148191 - 03/02/06 09:38 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Tathariant]
TrojZyr Offline
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Because it somewhat relates to this topic of what constitutes proper influence of one's children, here's a good example of a terrible way to influence children:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0976726...5Fencoding=UTF8

"Why Mommy is a Democrat" is likewise unnerving in its own way, but at least it doesn't encourage aggressive tribalism and hostile groupthink in the way this book seems to.

Ugh, ugh, ugh.
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#148192 - 03/02/06 09:57 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: TrojZyr]
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Loc: CA
I agree completely. This is totally a take-off on Xian bookstores using cartoons for indoctrination. Just clicking on this link reminded me of once when I walked by a xian bookstore and saw a bunch of kids books in the window. I swear, one day I'm going to wright my own parodies of religious children's book--for adults. I'm not limiting my themes to some damn cartoon about Jonah getting swallowed by a fish, either. There's going to be all sorts of juicy themes--all straight out of the old testament. It will have Abraham and Isaac human sacrifice popups, and King David violating his sisters back door--just like in Song of Solomon. I'll put it in the porn section and cover it with one of those "Must be 18 to read" covers. This should make the censors cock their heads like confused dogs.

Get that damn bible off the shelves and burn it with the rest of the devil's filth!

Religion is the effluence of humanity, and I am the toilet duck!

Haha!
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#148193 - 03/02/06 10:51 PM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Quiddity]
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Posts: 499
i remember seeing some joke about a cartoon of sodom and gomorrah. that would be pretty funny...
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#148194 - 03/03/06 12:16 AM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Quiddity]
TrojZyr Offline
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Dude, when you write this, be sure to call me so I can help.

Being a religion nerd, I know the ins and outs of all the juice and filth in the Bible.

For example, if you tease a bald man, he'll tell Yhwh to send killer bears after you.
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#148195 - 03/03/06 01:51 AM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Poetaster]
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Registered: 01/21/06
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It's all about stratification and survival of the fittest.

Social Darwinism will make the final determination.





Yup. I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one. When I came to these forums, in my intro, I was concerned about these issues of "equality". Having to come to grips with the reality in the above quote, I have realized equality is a foolish and bullshit concept. I am a God. I have desires I need to fulfill. Fuck anything and everything that gets in that way. Why bother with sheep? Let them die already. Why bother even having kids? What purpose do they serve to YOUR desires? There's no point in continuing the life cycle unless you need some slaves to serve you. The people in power can do whatever the fuck they want to their kids as long as no one is big enough to overthrow them. Enjoy your own life while you have it. No one else cares about your core desires except yourself.

Hail Satan!
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#148196 - 03/03/06 06:06 AM Re: Topic. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
Ygraine Offline

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I'm thinking that most of you who have the nerve to actually use a statement like "unacceptable parental influenece" don't have kids, do you?

If we assume that the majority of the posters here did not come from a Satanic family, we must also assume that despite/regardless of or maybe even because of the way they were raised, they found their way here.

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All of the shallow minded and neolithic mind set of society today dictates the future and how children are raised. Not a good thing in any country that thrives on control of the individuals beliefs and lifestyles.





From a relative standpoint you should see that you couldn't even type those words safely if our society demanded control of beliefs and lifestyles. There is a profound difference between influencing society and making demands of individuals.

Surely we are better for the need of potential members to have to go against the grain to discover and embrace our philosophy if that is in their inherent nature. That which does not kill us, and all that.

More importantly if one wants the freedom to raise their children as they see fit, one might want to back off telling others how to do the same.

Parents have the ultimate responsibility, and shy of actual abuse, should have the freedom that comes from that responsibility to raise their kids in a manner they feel is correct. If the kid is a natural Satanist, he'll find us.

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#148197 - 03/03/06 06:22 AM Re: Unacceptable Parental Influences? [Re: Noxilenticus]
Ygraine Offline

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I am a God. I have desires I need to fulfill. Fuck anything and everything that gets in that way. Why bother with sheep? Let them die already. Why bother even having kids? What purpose do they serve to YOUR desires? There's no point in continuing the life cycle unless you need some slaves to serve you.





Wow---a bit pissed off, aren't ya?

Just a reminder: You are not A God you are your Own God. The difference is important.

And when one is one's own God they get to choose whether having children will bring them joy, or not. The implication that a Satanist would only breed to create slaves is so fucking 1987.

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And the slaves shall serve.....




Sheep have uses, unless I want all you "gods" to mow my lawn, serve my fries, or give me my bikini wax.

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