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#148247 - 02/28/06 02:38 PM Concerning the Balance Factor.
melektaus8 Offline


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My question is in reference to the Balance Factor. I believe I hold a firm grasp on what it is (the accurate measurement of compatibility in a magical working and the application thereof), however, if there are any other vital points existing outside of what I know I am eager to hear of them.

Hail Satan!
-Mikael.


Edited by melektaus8 (02/28/06 11:15 PM)

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#148248 - 02/28/06 06:24 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: melektaus8]
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I think of the Balance Factor as an extension of objective reality.

For example:

If you're an ugly son of a bitch, your chance of attracting a gorgeous supermodel is fairly low.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, however, if the majority thinks you're ghastly, it's safe to assume that you're ghastly.

When performing magic, think in terms of what you can honestly expect; that is the Balance Factor.

I may be wrong.
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#148249 - 02/28/06 07:39 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Poetaster]
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On the shoulders of that, once you know what reality is, you should not just give up, but figure out a way to have your goals match up with reality.

Sometimes, you can alter reality--namely, yourself, or a situation---in some way, while other times, it's better to just change or re-define your goal.

So, the presence of the Balance Factor isn't the signal to say, "Oh well," it's often the signal to say, "What can I do to generally get what I desire, considering what I have to work with?"
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#148250 - 02/28/06 07:47 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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I agree.

Reality can be tweaked if the potential is present.

But, it's important to be honest with yourself.

Self-awareness is the key; know your limitations and capabilities.

Quote:

"What can I do to generally get what I desire, considering what I have to work with?"




Indeed.

Again, the key is honesty.

"Think in terms of what you can honestly expect."
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#148251 - 02/28/06 10:10 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: melektaus8]
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Or, alternatively, you can read "The Satanic Witch" and start pursuing girls that are opposite of you on the personality synthesizer chart. Also in the book of Belial there is a chapter (Theory and Practice of Satanic Magic) that includes info on glamours. Re-read that, and then be honest with yourself.
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#148252 - 03/01/06 02:27 AM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Jack_Lantern]
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Or, alternatively, you can read "The Satanic Witch" and start pursuing girls that are opposite of you on the personality synthesizer chart.




Good call! An understanding of the concepts presented within "The Satanic Witch" will aid in influencing reality in regards to human psychology.
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#148253 - 03/01/06 11:46 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: melektaus8]
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Mikeal,

It is too bad you edited your post and deleted what you are concerned with about The Balance Factor. By the context of what others have written it sounds like you are talking about playing around with the same magic I have been.

Let me tell you, The Balance Factor is the most important factor in women hunting. It is a whole offshoot of the Lesser Magic skill in and of itself. I have been practicing magic for several years without even knowing it. It has just come natural to me. This inspires me to write an essay. There are so many things to explain it would be rediculous to try and respond here. As a testamonial though my ritual with this picture, it has taken less than a week to work. Women are by far the worst psychic vampires in the entire universe. Be careful with these creatures. Magic is all in the experiance of it's beholding Warlock(in this case) or Witch. Keep practicing. I recommend Internet chatrooms as an easy place to start out. Play with women's emotions, try and see if you can get them to tell you what they desire most. I think you will be surprised with the answers you get, possibly depressed. It may not be what you want to hear. The Satanic Witch, I have never read it. Assuming it is based on how to be sexually appealing(from reading the titles on amazon.com), it may help you in countering the Witches on your defense. Afterall : "Any man who is not already drained of his sexualy energy is a 'sitting duck' for the proficient Witch"(pg 124) . I have really wanted to buy that for some time now, I think I will. More to come soon.
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#148254 - 03/02/06 10:09 AM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: melektaus8]
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In bewitching your desired mate a lot more work than a working is usually necessary. "Postive thoughts and positive action yield results." Many here have given sound advice. I wanted to add a few tips that may be of use. First, know your subject. Learn as much as you can about her, from her friends or habits. Know her previous mates and think about what is it about them that she was attracted to. Use these elements if they fit you. Second, you must get her attention. Either subtle or dramatic, whichever you think will work best on that subject. But you must be noticed! Then once you think you have gained some level of interest, use jealously. If others are attracted to you it makes you more desirable. The balance factor of who and what you can obtain will become simple over time, the balancing of these other techniques also needs practice. I'll leave this with a quote from Slayer's Born of Fire, "Making the best of the cards I've been dealt, adjusting the odds so I win."
Enjoy the pleasures of the flesh.
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#148255 - 03/02/06 10:52 AM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Dak]
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You may want to be careful that someone doesn't take you for a stalker though, and that jealousy thing... well that can get you into all sorts of trouble! It doesn't always work either you know, some women or men simply do not care who else finds a certain person attractive. If she/he doesn't it isn't going to matter what you do. Everyone has their type, make sure you are their type before you waste your time and energy.

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#148256 - 03/02/06 12:05 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Noxilenticus]
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Women are by far the worst psychic vampires in the entire universe.




I agree! And most are inherently natural ones at that!

From my experience and observations to get a woman easily you must:

-Have money the more the better, let her see the size of that wallet. You can be unattractive, boring, dull, dimwitted, and stupid but if you have money and dress nice, lack of character, substance, and excellence will usually be overlooked by the general consensus of women. In addition all of your shortcoming traits will turn into sympathetic "cuteness" with money
-Show her how nice and a "gentleman" you are by purchasing all of her drinks for her. By the way alcohol is a truth serum and aphrodisiac in one.
-Drive an attractive car, brag about it and possibly try to get her to take a ride with you in it, *more about this in my responses to the "Herd on Wheels" topic

Through initial success of employing the above techniques you will gain "confidence". Having a sense of confidence even if one has nothing defining to back it up or warrant it, is still equally attractive as having money (to the general consensus of women mind you). However it is rare that you will find any women that will not succumb to these techniques.

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#148257 - 03/02/06 03:12 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: DataLore]
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From my experience and observations to get a woman easily you must:

-Have money the more the better, let her see the size of that wallet. You can be unattractive, boring, dull, dimwitted, and stupid but if you have money and dress nice, lack of character, substance, and excellence will usually be overlooked by the general consensus of women. In addition all of your shortcoming traits will turn into sympathetic "cuteness" with money
-Show her how nice and a "gentleman" you are by purchasing all of her drinks for her. By the way alcohol is a truth serum and aphrodisiac in one.
-Drive an attractive car, brag about it and possibly try to get her to take a ride with you in it, *more about this in my responses to the "Herd on Wheels" topic

Through initial success of employing the above techniques you will gain "confidence". Having a sense of confidence even if one has nothing defining to back it up or warrant it, is still equally attractive as having money (to the general consensus of women mind you). However it is rare that you will find any women that will not succumb to these techniques.




Is that really the type of woman you want? Women of quality are looking for men of quality. Shallow, superficial women are attracted to what you have listed here. If you just want to get laid, then by all means, but if you are looking for a mate......?

A Satanic witch is what you want and any Satanic witch worth her salt will see right through you and your tactics and by pass you altogether. I don't know about the other women on this board, but character, substance, and excellence are really high on my list! The money tends to follow these.


Hail Satan!
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#148258 - 03/02/06 03:37 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: dragondancer]
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Is that really the type of woman you want?

Women of quality are looking for men of quality. Shallow, superficial women are attracted to what you have listed here. If you just want to get laid, then by all means, but if you are looking for a mate......?

A Satanic witch is what you want and any Satanic witch worth her salt will see right through you and your tactics and by pass you altogether. I don't know about the other women on this board, but character, substance, and excellence are really high on my list! The money tends to follow these.


Hail Satan!




On the contrary, I have observed a good share of quality women falling for these tactics over the years. Excellence standards seem to be at an all time low.

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#148259 - 03/02/06 04:57 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: DataLore]
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I agree with you to a certain point, but getting them to have sex with you is a completely different process. If I had money like that in the first place I would just move to Carson City Nevada where it's legal to buy clean whores all day(at a brothel) and just pay them to have sex with me, which is the way it should be everywhere damnet . The point of women hunting is to be able to obtain ANY women you want regardless of your financial status. I know some guys that are ugly as hell and as stupid as a brick wall, but the shit that women put up with for them and the girls that they have sex with never ceases to absolutely amaze me. They know that he is broke too, but he is very "romantic". Also he is very popular. A lot of girls I know would not go for a boring rich guy regardless of the cash. I think you under estimate a woman's greed way too much. Still writing my essay.
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#148260 - 03/02/06 08:22 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Noxilenticus]
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I know some guys that are ugly as hell and as stupid as a brick wall, but the shit that women put up with for them and the girls that they have sex with never ceases to absolutely amaze me. They know that he is broke too, but he is very "romantic". Also he is very popular. A lot of girls I know would not go for a boring rich guy regardless of the cash. I think you under estimate a woman's greed way too much. Still writing my essay.




It's not a woman's greed that compells them, remember the male is pursuing the female.
The female will either feel at financial ease and important from being showed such attention, and/or they will feel indebted(psychic vampyrized) to spend time with Mr. Moneysack.

When I mentioned "confidence" I was describing what you are refering to as "romanticism". This person whom you were refering to, you described him as having nothing to offer. However, he is still successful. Why is he successful? Becasue, he flatters them, thats it! He makes them feel important like Mr. Moneybags does.

The woman's actions reflect her insecurity, having nothing to offer herself or a man.

It really is a waste of one's youth to pursue women, in my opinion. Pursue yourself and your goals above all.

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#148261 - 03/02/06 09:57 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: DataLore]
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On the contrary, I have observed a good share of quality women falling for these tactics over the years. Excellence standards seem to be at an all time low.




I guess quality is in the eye of the beholder!



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#148262 - 03/05/06 10:33 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: DataLore]
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From my experience and observations to get a woman easily you must:

-Have money the more the better, let her see the size of that wallet. You can be unattractive, boring, dull, dimwitted, and stupid but if you have money and dress nice, lack of character, substance, and excellence will usually be overlooked by the general consensus of women. In addition all of your shortcoming traits will turn into sympathetic "cuteness" with money
-Show her how nice and a "gentleman" you are by purchasing all of her drinks for her.



Wrong!

To me, a man has to be sensitive, have a deep soul and a lot of character, and actually accomplish things in life. These things matter to me, and they are the first things I look for when I meet someone.

A man can carry a lot of cash and wear something nice, and yea a nice outfit looks hot, but if I find that he’s a dull and boring idiot with no character, then I lose interest very quickly.

I would not be impressed if a man buys me drinks at a bar just to act like a gentleman. I can tell a poser from a real gentleman who actually cares about me. If a man wants to spend money on me, he had better be a real gentleman and do something nice for me out of his heart, like look into my eyes and passionately offer to take me out for dinner at a nice restaurant. That would impress me.
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#148263 - 03/05/06 10:49 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Barb]
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I'll second that.

Yes, tons of women are into men with money.

Yes, tons of women like unctuous gentlemen who buy them drinks and sweet-talk them.

These tactics have an affect on one's subconscious mind, and speak to instincts and desires one may not even acknowledge most of the time. So, even women who aren't totally brainless may find themselves drawn to a man with power or money, simply because his status speaks to their primal desire to nab an able provider and true alpha male.

But, I for one am not among those women, because I see the dangers and the futility in being seduced by mere flashy superficialities. I like a male who's genuine, intelligent, funny, and who shows authentic courtesy, true respect, and considerate kindness towards me, as opposed to pulling out all the flashy chivalrous moves preferred by Ted Bundy and the like. I like a male who is competent; who has goals he cares about in life (so, yes, money will often be a product of that), and who is truly interested in life itself and what it has to offer. I like a male who can stand on his own two feet, who can be independent and enjoy moments of solitude without feeling bored or anxious or clingy, and who won't expect me to be his arm candy, his crutch, or his Mommy.

But, then, I'm not like most females, I'd say, so I'd like to think my preferences are smarter and more refined.
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#148264 - 03/06/06 11:56 AM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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The sad thing is, there isn't a woman I truly know who doesn't have these very same ideals and perspective (verbally), and yet most all meet with failure. If and when they were to meet such a man, by that time, they can't "recognize" him, aren't worthy of him, or simply don't know what to do with him.
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#148265 - 03/06/06 12:21 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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I like a male who's genuine, intelligent, funny, and who shows authentic courtesy, true respect, and considerate kindness towards me, as opposed to pulling out all the flashy chivalrous moves preferred by Ted Bundy and the like.

But, then, I'm not like most females, I'd say, so I'd like to think my preferences are smarter and more refined.




Ted Bundy was all of the things you describe and more, he was not merely flash. Ted could be respectful in the extreme to a woman, he was highly intelligent and very considerate to almost everyone who knew him and women in particular, that is why his tactics were so very effective!

And, I hate to say it but your preferences are not all that different from most women.

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#148266 - 03/06/06 02:00 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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And, I hate to say it but your preferences are not all that different from most women.




2-3% is most?

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#148267 - 03/06/06 02:50 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: DataLore]
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Its actually about 60%. Just because they don't tell you doesn't make it any the less true!

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#148268 - 03/06/06 04:28 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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Its actually about 60%. Just because they don't tell you doesn't make it any the less true!




Damn where are all of these women?! Or where were they is a better way to put it.


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#148269 - 03/06/06 04:41 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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You are too kind

The herd, being such as they are, will still claim to only want the best in life...but that's as far as it goes.
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#148270 - 03/07/06 06:56 PM Re: Concerning requesting company for a meal [Re: Barb]
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do something nice for me out of his heart, like look into my eyes and passionately offer to take me out for dinner at a nice restaurant.




I am just curious as to how one might passionately offer to take someone to a restaurant?

It'd have to be a bloody good one?



"I BESEECH thee, fair maiden, pray join me at the table where we shall partake of the greatest food and imbibe of the finest wines known to humanity. Refuse and I shall take this dagger unto mine own heart.

You will?

Shall I book us a taxi then or will you drive as I fancy having a few drinks?"


Edited by Luthor_H_Bedlam (03/07/06 07:22 PM)

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#148271 - 03/07/06 10:34 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Barb]
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I would not be impressed if a man buys me drinks at a bar just to act like a gentleman. I can tell a poser from a real gentleman who actually cares about me. If a man wants to spend money on me, he had better be a real gentleman and do something nice for me out of his heart, like look into my eyes and passionately offer to take me out for dinner at a nice restaurant. That would impress me.




lol Yes. Not only do you have to be rich, you have to earn the privilage to spend money on women!!! hahahahahah omg HILARIOUS HAHAHA

Thank you. I appriciate your deeper inner feelings. It is pretty much accurate to my observations of what a woman wants. Study this witch well. There is a lot you could learn from that paragraph, it might even save your life.
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#148272 - 03/08/06 12:40 AM Re: Concerning requesting company for a meal [Re: Bedlam]
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I am just curious as to how one might passionately offer to take someone to a restaurant?


"I BESEECH thee, fair maiden, pray join me at the table where we shall partake of the greatest food and imbibe of the finest wines known to humanity. Refuse and I shall take this dagger unto mine own heart.




First of all, do NOT say that dramatic bunch of words quoted above. That does not sound passionate. It sounds too loud and fake. Also, that last sentance sounds too demanding, and that is very likely to make her uncomfortable, maybe even put her into a guilt trip if she wants to say no. (The only exception is if you know for sure that she is really into classic plays.)

Passion 101:
All it takes to be passionate is to take her hand and kiss it, keep holding her hand and look deeply into her eyes, staying silent for a little bit, and then ask quietly:
“Hey…I want to take you out some where nice some time…”

That’s probably all you would need to say, and the less you need to say, the better.
Being passionate is not about what you say, but how you actually feel. The trick is to project your feelings to her so she feels it. Women can sense these things if you know what you're doing.
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"Twenty percent of your priorities will give you 80 percent of your production, IF you spend your time, energy, money, and personnel on the top 20 percent of your priorities." ~The Pareto Principle, as stated by John C. Maxwell

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#148273 - 03/08/06 10:53 AM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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Yes, Ted Bundy was all of those things, in a broad sense.

I listed off the broad superficials---intelligent, genuine, funny---so, naturally, lots of people can somehow fit under that umbrella. I see it in personal ads all the time.

For me, it's how they end up under that umbrella that matters, and what the particulars are. What hobbies does he enjoy? Why? What are his views and opinions, and why does he hold them? How does he treat the waiter? How does he respond to other people in positive and negative situations? How does he react when I say "no" to something?

The particulars can be harder to describe---"I know it when I see it." I also didn't want to turn my post into a deeply detailed personals ad, so I skimmed across the surface.

The point, anyway, is to be willing and able to see when someone's just flashing status symbols and doing mating dances. Many sharks act genuine, intelligent, and funny, or have those traits in the general sense. Many sharks are merely chivalrous, which many women mistake for being genuinely considerate or nice. The key is to ask, "What am I seeing here? What's the motive here? How might he act if we weren't in this setting, or if I wasn't here?"

And sure, a lot of people *say* they also want these things, but really, do they? Lots of women claim they want a "sensitive" man, but then they flock to the arms of the macho man. They say they highly value intelligence, but they get intimidated in the presence of a smart chap they later derisively call "the nerd." When people actually get what they've been asking for, they tend to become overwhelmed and settle for the watered-down version, or sometimes, even the opposite of what they thought they wanted before. And, people also tend to settle for whatever after a while.

I've noticed that I *technically* embody lots of the qualities males in my age group say they want, and that I am the opposite of many of the things that upset them about their current girlfriends. But, I still manage to scare them off--which, in the end, is probably good, because then I don't have to observe them further. Inevitably, I see them hook up with girls who have the same qualities that they said annoyed or bored them before.
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#148274 - 03/08/06 01:01 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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And sure, a lot of people *say* they also want these things, but really, do they? Lots of women claim they want a "sensitive" man, but then they flock to the arms of the macho man. They say they highly value intelligence, but they get intimidated in the presence of a smart chap they later derisively call "the nerd." When people actually get what they've been asking for, they tend to become overwhelmed and settle for the watered-down version, or sometimes, even the opposite of what they thought they wanted before. And, people also tend to settle for whatever after a while.




Yes. The key here, as in most things, is in self awareness. Know what it is that you really want and go after it. Most people, male or female, walk around in a fog of lies and misconceptions anyway. They believe what they hear and see in the media to be true, and adopt it as their own truth. Hopefully, most of us here know better and do some serious inner searching to realize just what it is that we want before we set our sites on it.

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I've noticed that I *technically* embody lots of the qualities males in my age group say they want, and that I am the opposite of many of the things that upset them about their current girlfriends. But, I still manage to scare them off--which, in the end, is probably good, because then I don't have to observe them further. Inevitably, I see them hook up with girls who have the same qualities that they said annoyed or bored them before.




I have also found this to be true. Many men will run from confidence, strength, honesty, and directness. It happens all the time. The sheeple really want to be lied to, point out truth, be open and direct and see how they run.


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#148275 - 03/08/06 01:27 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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There is no broad sense to it; Ted was a gentleman, charming, intelligent, caring and generous. He was sensitive, humorous and he was the nicest guy you would ever want to meet! He was what almost all women claim they want in a man, and unless you were one of his victims you would never for a moment have doubted his sincerity, because it was genuine. Ted truly believed himself to be gallant, romantic and superior to most males. And in many respects he was, all except for that little murdering problem he had which stemmed from his lack of self-confidence and childhood traumas that he could never quite get over.

Men and women are creatures of habit. They will always gravitate towards what they are use to, what makes them feel secure, the type of person they secretly desire deep down inside. The one they claim “is just not my type!” Women will almost always have relationships with the same type of men over and over, as will men with women. It is in their nature to seek out what they are comfortable with. No matter what they claim they want from someone they will inexorably gravitate towards that which they are familiar with. New things, new types of people scare most individuals, they lack confidence in their intellect or their desires and their mental capacity to keep the persons interest and they cannot overcome these fears. It is why so many people will return to a lover who has abused or mistreated them in the past, even though they swore they would never have anything to do with that person again.

Most people are also not a good judge of character, even those who think they are or pride themselves on their ability to tell someone who is fake, are often the victims of these very individuals, and are usually stunned to learn that they were wrong. Women in particular will fall into this trap, but men are not immune to the wiles of a crafty woman or witch. It is surprising how wonderfully accomplished actor’s people can be when they want something bad enough.

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#148276 - 03/08/06 01:47 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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Ted was a gentleman, charming, intelligent, caring and generous. He was sensitive, humorous and he was the nicest guy you would ever want to meet!




Tell that to the victims and their families.

He was just another murdering scumbag who used his "broken childhood" as an excuse.

As George Carlin would say, "fuck him!"
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#148277 - 03/08/06 01:58 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Poetaster]
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It was the "fucking him" part that got people into trouble. And if they could, most of his victims would tell you the same thing. Ted was a charmer. Right up to the moment when he smashed them in the face and rendered them unconscious.

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#148278 - 03/08/06 05:12 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: TrojZyr]
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And sure, a lot of people *say* they also want these things, but really, do they? Lots of women claim they want a "sensitive" man, but then they flock to the arms of the macho man. They say they highly value intelligence, but they get intimidated in the presence of a smart chap they later derisively call "the nerd." When people actually get what they've been asking for, they tend to become overwhelmed and settle for the watered-down version, or sometimes, even the opposite of what they thought they wanted before. And, people also tend to settle for whatever after a while.




I had quite a few negative life experiences which validate this observation quite accurately. However, they proved positive in a "hard lesson learned" kind of way.

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#148279 - 03/08/06 06:25 PM Thanks for the advice [Re: Barb]
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First of all, do NOT say that dramatic bunch of words quoted above.




Okay. Don't recite famous classical plays.


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Being passionate is not about what you say, but how you actually feel.




I can feel.

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The trick is to project your feelings to her so she feels it.




Splendid! I can do that, no danger. So she feels it.

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Women can sense these things if you know what you're doing.




Oh, I know what I'm doing.


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All it takes to be passionate is to take her hand and kiss it, keep holding her hand and look deeply into her eyes, staying silent for a little bit,




Okay. I'm holding her hand...being silent...

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and then ask quietly:
“Hey…I want to take you out some where nice some time…”




Right. But until then, I would be extremely honoured if you would kindly remove your undergarments and bend over.

Along the right lines?





Thanks for the tips, but do you really think this approach will work?
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#148280 - 03/08/06 07:38 PM Re: Concerning the Balance Factor. [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
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You are indeed correct that people are creatures of habit. I find that heterosexuals usually gravitate towards people who resemble the parent of the opposite sex (and even I do this, to some degree), or who resemble some shadow-side or the idealized form of that parent, especially if the parent was absent. Gradually, other factors come into play, but this seems to be the "skeleton" beneath those other factors.

Preferring the familiar, and not seeing how they are repeating themselves every time, people will then make the same relationship mistakes over and over, and over.

And yes, it can be hard to judge another person's character. My early mistakes in my adolescence, for example, revolved around my inability to predict and interpret the ramifications of certain character traits. In simpler terms, I didn't know what behaviors were red flags, and which seemingly innocuous character traits pointed to bigger problems down the line, or which ones were going to become annoying. But, at least now I know what to look for in those particular areas.
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#148281 - 03/10/06 07:02 PM Re: Thanks for the advice [Re: Bedlam]
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Thanks for the tips, but do you really think this approach will work?



I can say that if a guy used this approach to get ME, it would work if I liked him, so I think it would work.

There are factors in which it would not work, like if she doesn’t want a boyfriend, or if she has issues about dating, or if she is too drunk and giddy to get into the right mood.

I would like to point out that if you meet a woman, you and her should do something together for a while (I‘d say at least a half-hour) before you ask her out, like have a conversation or something, depending on where you are. If you go to a night club, it is quite easy to get a woman by just dancing with her for a while first (and very likely get some action at that time also )-Then ask her out. I like to spend some time with someone before he would ask me out.

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Right. But until then, I would be extremely honored if you would kindly remove your undergarments and bend over.

Along the right lines?




Don’t ask her that in that way or that soon; she might think that that was all you wanted to begin with. Be a little more patient on that aspect.
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#148282 - 03/10/06 07:12 PM Re: Concerning requesting company for a meal [Re: Barb]
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All it takes to be passionate is to take her hand and kiss it, keep holding her hand and look deeply into her eyes, staying silent for a little bit, and then ask quietly:
“Hey…I want to take you out some where nice some time…”




OK. You are starting to freak me out, let´s just go over there where all those lovely people are standing.

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