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#149642 - 03/11/06 08:32 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: IX Von ZehEhv]
Noxilenticus Offline
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Your plan of getting a high paid computer job to make you your five million so then you can follow your goals I think leaves something to be desired. That is not anymore of a plan than anyone with any job stating that they will save millions of dollars and then do 'x' with it. Seems your dreams may be waiting some time, and will likely be already pursued by others before then anyway.




Interesting. And people tell me I have bad comprehension skills on this forum. I never said I was going to earn 5 million dollars from working. That would be ridiculous. It would take me the rest of my life. Saving up a good 100,000 (not including assets) will only take me about 5 years though which will also help with the research and experience portion of helping me build my prototype (or launch a business like I stated above). It will also help me establish a good residence to work on my ideas in private.

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I never asked to hear your ideas, and quite frankly I don't care to know.




You asked me:

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Do you have a plan on how you are going to achieve these [sic] goal of reaching $5 million?




And my plan had nothing to do with my ideas?... It seemed relevant to me.

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Now, regarding your 'dumbfounded' comment. I will state again: I do not care about your ideas. You would find almost any entrepreneur would not. They are too busy actually doing.




Really? That's interesting. As a private entrepreneur I care about your ideas. Care to share them with me? In fact, if you're a CEO like you say in your profile, where is the company you work for (or created)? What makes you so "BigBad"?
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#149643 - 03/11/06 09:02 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Noxilenticus]
IX Von ZehEhv Offline

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Interesting. And people tell me I have bad comprehension skills on this forum.



Your inability to stay on topic shows your insecurity. You need to resort to childish attacks to boost your own ego.

I asked if you have a plan, I did not ask what the plan was. Try reading things twice.

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Really? That's interesting. As a private entrepreneur I care about your ideas. Care to share them with me? In fact, if you're a CEO like you say in your profile, where is the company you work for (or created)? What makes you so "BigBad"?




If I considered you someone with ideas of value, perhaps I would be interested. But I do not.

You are a student with ideas. That does not make you an entrepreneur. Would I share my ideas with you? You would need to prove your value first and that is obviously not going to happen.

To educate you, I am CEO and owner/creator of a company based in Adelaide but which operates throughout Australia. I am involved in the setup of another company at this time which will operate in an upcoming market which is currently being trialled within this country. I am studying double Masters degrees, in 'Entrepreneurship' and 'Science & Technology Commercialisation'. I have been involved in business and project management for some years, and have established relationships with business-people Australia-wide.

My initial post posed questions to you in the interest of discussion, that it may help you think about things that you may not have. It was not intended to be a tit for tat throw at each other.

If you wish to continue this 'intellectually', then please do. Should you have nothing of actual value to say, I will not respond as I do have better things to do than defend myself to someone who has had difficulty in earning my respect.
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#149644 - 03/11/06 09:17 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments *DELETED* [Re: Noxilenticus]
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#149645 - 03/11/06 09:18 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: IX Von ZehEhv]
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I think your bad! Love the avatar.

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#149646 - 03/11/06 09:20 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Witch_Scarlet]
IX Von ZehEhv Offline

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Why thank you Scarlet
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#149647 - 03/11/06 09:37 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: IX Von ZehEhv]
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To educate you, I am CEO and owner/creator of a company based in Adelaide but which operates throughout Australia. I am involved in the setup of another company at this time which will operate in an upcoming market which is currently being trialled within this country. I am studying double Masters degrees, in 'Entrepreneurship' and 'Science & Technology Commercialisation'. I have been involved in business and project management for some years, and have established relationships with business-people Australia-wide.




Why do I doubt these claims?
As they are just as boisterous as those made by the opposite party.


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I will not respond as I do have better things to do than defend myself to someone who has had difficulty in earning my respect.




You must earn other's respect as well.

Beware of communication errors.


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#149648 - 03/11/06 09:44 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: DataLore]
IX Von ZehEhv Offline

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Regarding communication errors, you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.

Regarding my claims, they are true and can be substantiated.
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#149649 - 03/12/06 02:07 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Noxilenticus]
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>>he reason why I bash them is because I see them as mediocre accomplishments compared to things like visiting Mars, curing cancer, or expanding on the energy crisis.

Maybe to you. But to the person who did the actual creation it means everything! And that is what matters.

The act of reading a great novel is not meant to change and shake the world. Maybe change and shake your personal world, or maybe not. It is a good time spent.

So, by your account, those who don't make world changing products or ideas have no meat or fulfillment in their lives? That seems strange.

So, how have you moved the world lately?

But that is a silly question, one that is played by the wanna-be world heros.

The real question is, what have you done to change, improve, or enrich your world?

It seems to me that art has a great influence in people's lives and has been carried through history even stronger than science ever has. But that is a give or take situation.
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#149650 - 03/12/06 02:11 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Noxilenticus]
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You are basing your personal tastes with those of others. Tastes differ and are subjective. You cannot condemn someone for spending hours creating an amazing piece of art and not some global cancer cure.

You make wide claims based off of opinions. Science and art both have their places and their luxuries.
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#149651 - 03/12/06 05:24 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Old_Pig]
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Definitely #2, i'm proud of my personal achievements..i succeeded in building up my own company from scratch, i toured the half of the world with my band, and basically do whatever i feel like doing..but there's more to do.
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#149652 - 03/12/06 10:22 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Old_Pig]
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I chose the second one down. Accomplishments are a part of life; I have made many small accomplishments and a few major ones in my life so far. Some of my more significant accomplishments include: Finding myself and finding happiness, getting emotionally strong, realizing that I am in control of my life, getting over certain fears, getting a professional job at the age of twenty, getting four raises in three years and having the opportunity to try more advanced tasks at work when they are available to do, getting a nice place of my own to live, and learning how to cook.

To me, there is no such thing as being done accomplishing things, and I have no desire to NOT have to accomplish anything more. I will always continue to accomplish things and advance myself in life, up until I fall down dead. There is a lot more that I want to do with my life. I thrive on challenges and life ever advancing. These are the things I live for.
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#149653 - 03/12/06 10:39 PM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: ElJago]
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I personally can't see how someone with a genuine enquiring mind could ever have the comfort of self satisfaction.




I totally disagree with that statement.

To me it is the ambition and actually engaging in the endeavor itself that satisfies me the most.

My self satisfaction comes from DOING.

How "satisfying" could it feel when you have nothing left to anticipate? And how "satisfying" could it feel when you have nothing else you ever need to do but sit on your ass and rot until you die?
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"Twenty percent of your priorities will give you 80 percent of your production, IF you spend your time, energy, money, and personnel on the top 20 percent of your priorities." ~The Pareto Principle, as stated by John C. Maxwell

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#149654 - 03/13/06 06:35 AM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Barb]
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My point was that nobody knows enough about anything to truly have a smug self satisfied approach to it.
Whenever I try to find out about a particular subject, when I do research into it, it generally leads to something else, which in turn leads to something else, which in turn.......adinfintum.
Your point about being satisfied sitting on my ass ?, I don't know where you've got that from, you have completely and utterly misinterpreted what I said.
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#149655 - 03/13/06 06:59 AM Art & Science [Re: Noxilenticus]
reprobate Offline

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The reason why I bash them is because I see them as mediocre accomplishments compared to things like visiting Mars, curing cancer, or expanding on the energy crisis. Arts (writing, singing etc) do take experience and technique. There are labels to them, but it is something people have been doing for millennia. People can start new drawings everyday if they wanted, but is rare that a person will invent a new method of open-heart surgery. Somehow I don’t think reading a good novel is going to help save my life when I’m dying in the future.




You're comparing the everyday routine aspect of art with the once-in-a-generation breakthroughs in science. That's disingenuous. One could just as easily turn it around: "People can chart the kinds of slugs in their garden every day if they wanted, but it's rare that a person will develop a voice or an image that will fascinate a generation."

Compare the great with the great, or the trivial with the trivial, not the great with the trivial. That isn't fair.

And I agree entirely with Discipline. Science gives us greater power and fascilitates survival; but art makes life worth living, by profoundly delighting the senses.


Edited by reprobate (03/13/06 06:59 AM)
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#149656 - 03/13/06 08:34 AM Re: Personal Acomplishments [Re: Old_Pig]
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I measure success by both achieving the goals that you have set for yourself and being happy with your life. I am happy with my accomplishments thus far, but I still have a lot more that I want to do. I live a better quality of life then all but 2 or 3 members of mine and my wife’s entire family, and they are near twice my age. I am happy with my life, I have no regrets. Every goal that I have set for myself I have accomplished, but I am always setting more goals and that will likely be a never ending cycle. So that puts me sort of in between options 2 and 3.
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