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#14974 - 10/30/03 01:37 PM God Exists.
Drake_Bamboozle Offline
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It has permeated the very core of society. Millions devour its mantras. It has more followers than any other God in the history of man. This is the true God of the masses and it is continually evolving new applications with which to further administer its council to its followers.

This God's power lies in its ability to remove one's need to think for one's self. Thoughts and ideas need no longer be germinated in the mind of the individual - it easily persuades the masses by presenting them with images of what they soon come to accept as what they want. They spew forth stock phrases and terms and words which have been downloaded into their brains straight from their favorite origin (usually a second rate sit-com or soap opera).

The media has many channels running directly to the minds of the weak convincing them of what to wear, how to speak, how to act and how to think.

Choose the image you like from the selection provided.

Choose your vocabulary from the texts provided.

Choose a ready made personality from the traits provided.

All tastes are catered for. Take your pick, or else suffer the consequences of being banished from those little coteries with whom you would like to hold hands.

The media's trudge through the heart of society is one of subterfuge. But it is still a source of amazement just how many people are blind to the fact that they are are so completely reliant on it as the building blocks for their own identities and thoughts.

With a penchant for offering itself as a necessity of life the media has become the ultimate tool of control for those who seek to pull the strings of the puppets.

And the ones with the oft-most pulled strings are the ones who have been saturated, yet are still under the delusion that they remain a free thinker. And unfortunately this delusion is most often bolstered by its owner clinging to philosophies which simply do not fit them.



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#14975 - 10/30/03 01:44 PM *DELETED* [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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#14976 - 10/30/03 02:50 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Don't forget about fear being a sold product. The herd loves fear. It makes their lives seem so much better and make them think of all those dangerous things hiding in the shadows that want to get them.

The more fear they pump into them the less they will be able to think for themselves. The more they need a cure to those fears the more they will crawl back to the media for a solution. Make people fear their very own neighborhoods and you know they will want to hear how to be safe. Warn them about the faulty tires they drive so they can buy a more expensive brand.

The news loves to boost up the fear factor. It sells products. It keeps people hungry for more. It works. It's working better than the bible ever has.
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#14977 - 10/30/03 03:52 PM Re: Yes, ... [Re: Jack_Bauer]
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I would be interested in why you wrote about what most uf us here know.

Let's forget about what you know. Why do you think it was written? How do words become known? Why did Anton LaVey write books about what "most of us" already know? Why do people write about anything? *I must make a reply to every post, I must not switch off my computer* Ring a bell?

I made the experience that there are times when there seem to be more of those people you describe crossing your ways, wasting your time and annoying your senses.

No kidding?


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#14978 - 10/30/03 03:54 PM *DELETED*
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#14979 - 10/30/03 04:59 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
Anonymous
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Very well put Mr Uvray ... you speak with conviction and great insight, refreshing.

-Ms Ava-

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#14980 - 10/30/03 05:10 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
Anonymous
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Well said!

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#14981 - 10/30/03 05:26 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Yes, this is true for most.

Big brother is indeed watching
I am curious to know, have you read Farenheit 451, or Brave New World? Both excellent reads, and they follow along the same lines as described in your post. Control.

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#14982 - 10/30/03 07:08 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Solomon]
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Yes, both you speak of are very good books. Farenheit 451 deals with a lot more than just censorship. In a way it's already happening.
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#14983 - 10/30/03 08:32 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Discipline]
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Quote:

Don't forget about fear being a sold product. The herd loves fear. It makes their lives seem so much better and make them think of all those dangerous things hiding in the shadows that want to get them.




Ahhh, but of course the fear they thrive on is what I would call roller-coaster fear. Its fear but its enjoyable because you know at the end of the day you won't get hurt or if you do you'll get a nice big dose of compensation.What really frightens them is something unexpected or taboo.

The herd stares at a car crash but they turn away from a man walking down the street naked - that scares them far more than any reports of death and destruction ever could.

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#14984 - 10/31/03 01:29 AM Re: Yes, ... [Re: Jack_Bauer]
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Mr. Lars, this is from the message board guidelines - as you appear not to have read them:

>> When posting a message, do not just post a question in the subject line and fail to fill in the body of the message - it is both annoying and worthless. Also when replying to a post do not just post one-liners like "LOL" or ":)". Add some content to your reply by showing your intelligence<<
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#14985 - 10/31/03 01:38 AM Re: God Exists. [Re: Solomon]
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Actually Mr. Solomon I have read neither of those books. They seem to have been on my list for years and yet I have still not got around to them. Maybe one day I'll just flippantly pick them up.
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#14986 - 10/31/03 01:47 AM Re: Yes, ... [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Ahhh it does have quite a familiar smell to it!


Never saw them as they were standing never saw them as they fell!

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#14987 - 10/31/03 03:03 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Quote:

With a penchant for offering itself as a necessity of life the media has become the ultimate tool of control for those who seek to pull the strings of the puppets.




Some puppets WANT to be manipulated. They are incapable, from birth, of thinking independantly or birthing original thought. Those individuals that fit into the provided molds no matter what environment the were brought up in, education they received, media they were exposed to...etc.

Rational Thinkers are born that way, not made. Otherwise the world would have shed the mental parasite called 'monotheism' by now.



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#14988 - 10/31/03 04:40 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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As a publicist, i find your words to be very true.
However, it seems to me that you are against all that system.
For me, it's a way of life. If indeed the mass media and all its phenomena is to be considered an extremely manipulative god, then i would be proud if i am considered one of the manipulative priests of that religion. I manipulate the mind of the masses for my benefit and the benefit of my clients.
... now, that is power. And i feel good about it.
It is always good to take a look and see who is behind the wall. What sucks for some might work out excellent for others. In this particular case, i am one of the "others"... and it is great.
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#14989 - 03/22/04 01:59 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: CannibalSpirit]
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Basically the media takes the place of religion. Before there were TVs and such, people used religion to scare each other into flowing a messiah. Now we have FOX to scare us into watching their news segment so our children don’t get abducted.

Maybe someday something else will come along. The government was our savor form communism, Bush is our savoir from terrorism and soon something ells will save us form something even more horrible then that!

It works well, because it’s a very basic concept that everyone can get, good vs. evil. It takes a bit more insight to see thought to the fact that people just define there’s things in whatever way best suits there purpose.

The bad thing about this is it’s annoying. The good thing about this is it’s easy to manipulate stupid people.
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#14990 - 03/22/04 04:31 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Darkbella]
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I do think that they media is very powerful but i don't think it takes the place off religion. There are some needs that only religion can meet. Depends on whose views you take but it from a sociology view point it can be seen as a way of dealing with crisis of life such as death and a way of giving people's lives meaning. I would say that the media like education is used in a negative way in order to expolit people. However not all children watch tv, not all people who don't think much watch tv. Education though everyone has one of those it's not something anyone can really have say on since it is compulsory. It transmit's societies norms and values which tend to be religious norms and values. People are much more likely to follow them if they believe those norms and values are sacred. Even if you are not religious you still follow these values. I do think that sometimes the media can be informative, you just have to realise it's only giving you one side a lot of the times. Some programs i watch like News Night, Panorama and lots of documentarys are interesting. I think it's down to people letting themselves be sucked in by crap like soaps. It's almost like people need to be stimulated all the time and media give's them easy things to look at so they don't have to think much. Which goes hand in hand with all the other stuff. I think it does give a good idea of what society is finding acceptable though. However it's done really confusingly. Like Janet Jackson's nipple thing compared to say MTV Awards where you can find nipples everywhere. It's almost like people are split on what they watch ( so Christians may watch the Superbowl, while free loving teenagers will watch Mtv Awards) and this split reflects the split in people's moral codes and what is acceptable in the Media at what time and when.

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#14991 - 03/22/04 04:47 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: CannibalSpirit]
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Although I believe that your intentions are pure within your job (making money and living a good life), I am not sure I agree with your lifestyle.

I have often wondered if stupid people are merely attracted to the media, or if it is the media that CREATES stupid people. The average child under 5 spends an abhorable amount of time infront of the television soaking it up like a sponge (I read a statistic somewhere that said something like 30+ hrs a week.) This is the time when their psyches are developing and determining the way they will behave in the future. Now you have to wonder what kind of an affect this has on kids.

So although your actions may be satanic in the short run (exploiting stupidty, making a profit, bettering your life), I am not so sure they are satanic in the long run. It will be the stupid people that will bring the world and your own life to an untimely end, so if you are helping to create them, you are helping to destroy yourself.

Just a thought, don't take it TOO seriously.

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#14992 - 03/22/04 06:19 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Max Rose]
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Assuming a kid wasn't already genetically set up to be a moron, it's the fault of his parents if he becomes one, not of a sitcom star, news anchor, or televangelist. Responsibility to the responsible.

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#14993 - 03/22/04 06:41 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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So then, the people who control the media are the people who control the herd? I wonder if the the people who control the media are part of the herd as well. I mean, do they buy into their own bullshit?
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#14994 - 03/22/04 06:56 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: J. Hagalaz]
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To me is kinda a 'power elite' argument. Show people enough so they think there being treated like adults and think they are aware of things but not so much that they consider rising up against you so therefore people are being manipulated. However it could just be simply because there is money to be had.They want the money, we wanna see whatever it is even if it's total shite really so everyone's happy.
With children, you can't deny them the pleasure they get out of tv. I suppose it's all about the amount you let them see.I mean my mum didn't buy me my first video untill i was 10. Also the more tv children watch the more obese they are seen to get. There are so many commercials about junk food that children can't stop thinking about it, so they eat more, thats what i've heard.

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#14995 - 03/22/04 07:30 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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How the media influences the thoughts of people reminds me of characters from certain tv shows. There is usually an assistant to a leader, who presents ideas and plans in such a way to make the leader think they came up with the idea all along.

Lulling people into think they came up with their own decisions and ideas or even their fears themselves. That is what the media does to a large extent. They spew forth how unbiased they are and so many people eat that up and say, if they say it, it must be true!

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#14996 - 03/23/04 11:57 AM Re: Do they buy it? [Re: J. Hagalaz]
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Usually so.

Just examine their private lives to confirm this.

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#14997 - 03/24/04 08:32 AM Re: God Exists. - about fighting religion with religion [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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I know this is quite little off-topic/thread but i want to share these:

Today before some hours i was driving with my uncle in the city to get some stuff - i talked to him and listen with my second ear to the radio - The guy was talking about the accident in the capital City of Spain (Madrid called in german sorry i dont know actualy if its another word in english) - Well he talked about the local funeral service and about some citations of the christian bible. Well i was not listen so concentrated on it but i just thought - hell why the people are now import this bible shit, they fighting with their religion against the other one. I mean it just doesnt matter if christs died or muslems, its the same shit just another "god" just another way of thinking but in fact its the same. Sometimes i just cannot imagine why most people can be so cheated and think what they are citate now is better as the other religion shit of the murders. Isnt it obviously to them that they bubble the same shit and are not better in any kind of way.

HS!
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#14998 - 03/24/04 08:54 PM Re: God Exists. [Re: J. Hagalaz]
Anonymous
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I wonder if the the people who control the media are part of the herd as well. I mean, do they buy into their own bullshit?

big buisness doesn't have to believe in their work. in fact, i think it would work against them greatly. i see it as the biggest pusher known to man... and a pusher never skims off the stash, if he wants to gain profit. on a different note - nature vs. nurture is an old battle. i do not believe that mankind is smart enough to leave well enough alone. once we become overly analytical, we lose a few degrees of perspective and the original idea loses quite a bit of meaning. theory is nice and interesting, but if we never put forth effort to conjure fact, it's wasted words.

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#14999 - 03/26/04 12:45 AM Re: God Exists. [Re: J. Hagalaz]
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I think many do buy their own bullshit, yes. Inevitably, when people spew bullshit for so long, many of them begin to believe it, even if they didn't initially.

Some predators are just food for bigger predators, and others eat themselves in addition to everyone around them. So, while they may seem aggressive or carnivorous, or seem to be on top of things, they themselves may lack true control.
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#15000 - 03/26/04 01:30 AM Re: God Exists. [Re: TrojZyr]
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"when convincers convince so well they convince themselves"

from a little poem I once wrote hehe

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#15001 - 03/28/04 04:02 PM Re: God Exists.
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No, the people who control the media do not buy their own bullshit. They are some of the most powerfull people, they are higher than the politicians, and they use the media not to give informations to the poeple but to control the masses.
Those who really control the media allways remain in shadow, they never appear on TV or newspapers, they allways keep a low profile.

I think this answers your question.
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