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#149849 - 03/09/06 03:48 PM Internet Satanists?
BEHERIT Offline


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Ave Satanas-

What is an (internet Satanist)?i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.

I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?



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#149850 - 03/09/06 04:22 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




This might be handled case-by-case. Are you taking into account
people who might have physical restrictions? It might be nice to
think that whatever a Satanist chooses to do is in fact Satanic.

Seeing people be concerned that they are being Satanic or not
isn't a new thing. To me, when people expose this line of thinking,
it tells a lot about the person.
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#149851 - 03/09/06 04:30 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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What is an (internet Satanist)?i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.




Might this fit the bill? It isn't by Dr. LaVey, but then he died in 1997, before the Internet became anywhere near as pervasive as it is today. (You know, Thomas Jefferson never said anything about telephones!)

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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




Just as much of a Satanist as when I'm eating dinner with friends, or driving down the highway, or taking a shower, or reading a book, or cleaning the garage, or watching the moons of Jupiter through my telescope.

I think you're missing an essential concept here.

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#149852 - 03/09/06 04:34 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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You're either a Satanist or you're not. However I belive it to be an often thing when some people define themselves as Satanists simply by identifying themselves with some online group, without stepping away from the online world and looking into other aspects of Satanism. These are people that eventually tire of identifying themselves as one thing, and then move on to the next.
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#149853 - 03/09/06 04:47 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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To be sure, many Satanists use the Internet, some quite often. The Internet is a great tool, after all. Random Stranger, for example, pointed out that it's great for those with limited mobility in some way.

But, I define an "Internet Satanist" as someone who puffs themselves up online, but is basically just another "role player" who is using the medium to create an elaborate, but ultimately fake, persona, and indulge in delusions of grandeur.

Anyone can make a webpage and declare himself the High Priest of his own made-up Satanic church. Likewise, anyone can lie about his accomplishments or exaggerate about his assets, while spending his whole life eating Cheetos while watching daytime soaps at his mom's house. The online talk doesn't even remotely match the real-world action, basically.
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#149854 - 03/09/06 05:04 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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Magister Svengali has a nice growing blog collection of internet "satanists".

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#149855 - 03/09/06 05:18 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: DataLore]
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I looked over his blog for a moment and couldn't really find it. I'll admit, blogs aren't my cup of tea so my navigation skills are somewhat non-existent. Where is it?
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#149856 - 03/09/06 07:04 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Phex]
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If you cant find it, then it wasn't meant to be found.


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#149857 - 03/09/06 07:21 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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Ok this is lame...
Satanists are not downloaded they are born.
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#149858 - 03/09/06 07:45 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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Net compulsion as any other form of compulsion is something basically un-Satanic. Using the web as a tool, though, as already has been stated in this thread, can indeed turn out to be an activity leading to productive results. The amount of time spent for related activities is certainly also a matter of personal preference.
But after all, our main arena is still the real world of which the virtual environment is only a minor branch.

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#149859 - 03/09/06 09:30 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.




Nothing direct.

But he commented on the behaviour often.

In fact, there's a nice little sin devoted to it.

Pretentiousness; the art of pontification.

It's an underlying theme within most pseudo-Satanic groups that spring up all over the internet.

It's easy to spot if you're a Satanist.

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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




A loaded question if I've ever seen one.

Satanists utilize the tools necessary to accomplish goals.

The internet can be an excellent resource for the discerning Satanist.

This of course doesn't even consider profession.

Is a Satanist that happens to be a writer suddenly relegated to inferior Satanic status because he/she uses a computer? No. That would be absurd, just like your question.
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#149860 - 03/10/06 01:29 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Poetaster]
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ya caught me I actually work at burger king
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#149861 - 03/10/06 02:46 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: gypsy]
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Ok this is lame...
Satanists are not downloaded they are born.




Haha, you couldn't help yourself could you?
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#149862 - 03/10/06 10:22 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: gypsy]
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Well, can the psuedo ones get ad-ons at least?
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#149863 - 03/10/06 10:23 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: DataLore]
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Funny stuff too.

That one "guy", with the bulbous forehead and skany girl friend.

Yikes!!
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#149864 - 03/10/06 10:26 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Phex]
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You're either a Satanist or you're not.


Very true.

Here is another thing that may seem hard to believe.

You can be a Satanist, and have never heard of the CoS, and if you have, you aren't required to pay to be a Satanist. You are, or you aren't.

Joining the CoS, is like joining a really good Yacht club, with much better benefits.

Being recognized as.....is not always a good goal to obtain. The CoS I think, merely helps like minds discover one another.


Edited by man_mind (03/10/06 10:27 AM)
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#149865 - 03/10/06 11:38 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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It's sad how anything one might enjoy must always be vilified by others not having such a goodtime
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#149866 - 03/10/06 11:46 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: DataLore]
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Here’s the really creepy part; the internet is not a distilled collection of especially stupid people, there are in fact more of them roaming around freely everywhere at nearly every level of society. The internet just gives a small minority of them the opportunity to exhibit themselves in a different way.

To paraphrase George Carlin; observe how fucked up the average person is, then realize half of everyone is more fucked up than that.

A disturbing thought.
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#149867 - 03/10/06 12:46 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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I almost feel physically dirty even replying to this post but here goes. How much of a satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?


The same satanist as I am when I go shopping for groceries, when I play board games with my daughter or when I go out for a chinese meal.

What is an internet satanist ?, I think you'll find it's a satanist...............who uses the internet, to do research, talk to like minded people etc. I believe many people (not just satanists ) use the internet in this way too !

I am now going to have a hot shower, a stiff drink and a lie down.
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#149868 - 03/10/06 01:57 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Svengali]
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Here’s the really creepy part; the internet is not a distilled collection of especially stupid people, there are in fact more of them roaming around freely everywhere at nearly every level of society. The internet just gives a small minority of them the opportunity to exhibit themselves in a different way.

To paraphrase George Carlin; observe how fucked up the average person is, then realize half of everyone is more fucked up than that.






Agreed. I have observed many other ways of false exhibition other than a the internet profile combo. Most common are those who drive a $40,000-$50,000 automobile but live in a hovel or some other condemned tenament while living off of food stamps and welfare. A similar situation of misrepresentation, is the one of the rich idiot offspring who's parents "buy" them a college degree. It is quite common in society for idiots to profess their "wisdom" in the form of quick memorization cramming skills and/or bribing skills while basing it all on that "fancy sheet of paper".

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A disturbing thought.




At least the internet provides some fool spectating amusement in a convenient and comfortable observation point.

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#149869 - 03/10/06 02:25 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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What is an (internet Satanist)?





I'm starting to wonder where you even found this term "Internet Satanist". I've never heard of it before this post.
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#149870 - 03/10/06 03:16 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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BEHERIT Wrote <<<I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard?

Im about One Hundred, and Sixty pounds, thats how much.
I think this is a question only you can answer yourself.
Hail Satan!
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#149871 - 03/10/06 03:28 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Lust]
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BEHERIT Wrote <<<I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard?

Im about One Hundred, and Sixty pounds, thats how much.
I think this is a question only you can answer yourself.
Hail Satan!




Ooo....quite cheap....are you on sale?
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#149872 - 03/10/06 03:43 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




Are you not aware that the SIGs (Special Interest Groups) MAIN form of communication/interaction is through an online message board?

That should answer your question!

Also, I can think of one high ranking member of the hierarchy that makes his living behind a keyboard .

Here's a little hint: He also is the administrator or webmaster of ALL CoS and related sites (to my knowlege) including this one.
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#149873 - 03/10/06 05:33 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: False_Messiah78]
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>>To paraphrase George Carlin; observe how fucked up the
>>average person is, then realize half of everyone is more
>>fucked up than that. [Svengali]

I saw him Carlin a couple of weeks ago, and one of his newer analogies is "See the people on the Jerry Springer show? Those are the average Americans. Below-average can't even get on the show." I can't imagine what MySpace rejects look like!

>>He also is the administrator or webmaster of ALL CoS and
>>related sites (to my knowlege) including this one.
>>[False_Messiah78]

He certainly does a few of the biggies, but c'mon, all CoS-affiliated sites? Who'd even WANT that job?
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#149874 - 03/10/06 06:12 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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Ave Satanas-

What is an (internet Satanist)?i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.




For one, the nickname "Doctor, Doktor, etc" was and is used by those that were close to Magus LaVey.

I don't think you qualify for that priviledge.

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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




Pot. Kettle. Black.

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HAIL BEHERIT.




I'll pass. Thanks for stopping by.


Edited by Felstorm (03/10/06 06:14 PM)
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#149875 - 03/10/06 06:17 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Bill_M]
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#149876 - 03/10/06 06:24 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Felstorm]
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BEHERIT wrote:

Ave Satanas-

What is an (internet Satanist)?i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.


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Felstorm replied to BEHERIT:

For one, the nickname "Doctor, Doktor, etc" was and is used by those that were close to Magus LaVey.

I don't think you qualify for that priviledge.




Is that totally true?

I've noticed that many people who never meet Magus LaVey - myself included - use the term 'Doktor' as a sign of respect and endearment.

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#149877 - 03/10/06 07:10 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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Ave Satanas-

What is an (internet Satanist)?i dont recall the doktor writing about that in any of his books.

I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?



HAIL BEHERIT.




You have a point. Most so called "internet Satanists" are NOT! The internet is a cesspool of empty postureing and false claims about who and what people are. If all one does in life is act like a Satanist on a messageboard and does not apply the philosophy towards real life then they are not a Satanist no matter how well they have it all down on paper or keyboard. If you don't apply it and are content with telling tall tales and lies about yourself in order to feel important or elite and above the rest of society amongst the people here then you are simply a phoney. You are not a Satanist! The real Satanists apply. The fake ones pretend.

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#149878 - 03/10/06 08:31 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Svengali]
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Hmmm...
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#149879 - 03/10/06 09:27 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Destiny]
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#149880 - 03/10/06 09:30 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Bedlam]
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Hmmm...




Question?
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#149881 - 03/13/06 05:14 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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I once knew someone who would charge others to use his personal computer. Now that's an internet Satanist if I ever heard of one . Kidding aside!

When questioned by others as to why he does this, he responded, "it's my only source of entertainment".

I sat back and thought to myself, how boring and dull of life must you live that your only source of fun is the internet? Where have all the great thinkers and doers gone?

I enjoy the internet, it allows fast access to information, keeping in contact with friends and family who are on the other side of the planet, maybe one day the solar system. It is indeed a unique pleasure to use. It most certainly isn't the only pleasure.

There's alot of bullshit out there but anyone with enough common sense can muster through it and find access to the right information. There are many intelligent people online, Magister Ventrue quickly comes to mind!

There is no such thing as an "internet Satanist". There are Satanists who use the internet for fun and access to the things I have mentioned. "Indulgence,not compulsion" as always.
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#149882 - 03/13/06 06:56 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard ?




The internet is very useful in gathering and communicating with like-minded individuals. I have enriched my life a great deal by interacting with others here on this board and elsewhere on the internet.

I have experienced interactions some great minds that I would have never met without the internet. Such individuals have helped to quicken some lessons, and have offered different perspectives to broaden my understanding of things.

I am wondering.. why are you here if you don't also see this medium as being beneficial? Certainly you must gain something out of this, or you wouldn't be here.

To to answer your question.. I am a much improved Satanist from sitting behind my keyboard. I have gained knowledge and attitudes which have brought me material gain, better control over my reality, and a much better understanding of my religion.

Thanks for asking.
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#149883 - 03/14/06 01:47 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
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This keyboard has nothing to do with the fact we are satanists. If you met a satanist at a park would he be a "park satanist" that's absurd. You cannot label a satanist like that.

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#149884 - 03/14/06 01:58 AM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: Phex]
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"Internet satanists" are losers who use Satanism as a facade on the internet. There are loads of them on MySpace and they are pathetic. They are losers at and away from the keyboard.

Genuine Satanists may use the internet as a tool but have real lives and don't need the cesspool web to be Satanists.
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#149885 - 03/14/06 09:46 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: False_Messiah78]
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Also, I can think of one high ranking member of the hierarchy that makes his living behind a keyboard .

Here's a little hint: He also is the administrator or webmaster of ALL CoS and related sites (to my knowlege) including this one.



I would like to add that I think it is fantastic that this very high standing member of the Church of Satan is so talented and wants to put forth such effort to work on the websites in the Satanic Network. It is quite a gift to all of us who appreciate it. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate the Magister’s work should not feel obligated to look at it. Those who do appreciate it get a lot out of it.

I find it silly and pointless to make rants about if it is Satanic or not to use the internet. A person of ANY religion can use the internet, just as a person of any religion can watch movies, play video games, listen to music, read, draw, or any other entertaining activity. I have a good job and I work hard all day, and so I really enjoy relaxing and spending time here after my day’s work and doing other things I need to do. If a person has an issue with the internet, then they should not use it. It’s that simple.
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#149886 - 03/14/06 09:58 PM Re: Internet Satanists? [Re: BEHERIT]
Neko Offline
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I mean how much of a Satanist are you sitting at a keyboard?





So asks the person sitting behind their keyboard, communicating in a forum for Satanist.


Edited by Taboo (03/14/06 09:59 PM)
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