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#151173 - 03/16/06 07:57 AM Enochian
MalkaviuZ Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
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Loc: Germany
how important is enochian?
i mean der Doktor wouldnt write about it if there noting usefull or importat on it.
and where can i get some information about how to speak that language?

ps. donno if this is the right place to post.
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#151174 - 03/16/06 08:01 AM Re: Enochian [Re: MalkaviuZ]
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Put forth the effort to search the CoS's website. There is a section regarding the Enochian keys.
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#151175 - 03/16/06 08:11 AM Re: Enochian [Re: Oldsoul]
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Registered: 03/14/06
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Loc: Germany
ups, overlooked
have'nt seen it before but i've found it now
thx
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#151176 - 03/16/06 08:21 AM Re: Enochian [Re: MalkaviuZ]
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#151177 - 03/16/06 08:33 AM Re: Enochian [Re: Lust]
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Loc: Germany
already found it...
thanx anyway for directlink...
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#151178 - 03/16/06 09:51 AM Re: Enochian [Re: Lust]
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For years I've used and researched the enochian keys. I have even literalized the translations further to include the actual "Satan" into it. There are references at the end of most of the keys, however Satan isn't the actual literal figure in them of course, thanks to Kelly's white light translations. I've incorporated Satan into my own key translations, that being the only difference of course. But yes as on the site, I'm not going to be a grammar nazi about words that are to be "hymns" in the climax of a ceremony. I had a friend who practically wasted cans of coffee staying up all night (yes he doesn't have a steady job) doing transliterations and such with the keys but I kept tellin him, hey man just go with it, it's not rocket science. Oh well.
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#151179 - 03/16/06 11:11 AM Re: Enochian [Re: MalkaviuZ]
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>>how important is enochian?

For me personally, it's an important part of ritualized expression. I find the tone of the language very emotional and earth-shaking, not to mention so esoteric. I may be just reading out of paperback book in real life, but in the confines of the "intellectual decompression chamber", the key becomes some ancient magical incantation for me. Of course, there will be Satanists who prefer using the english versions, described as "archaic but Satanically correct". The standard ritual is obviously loosely organized enough to allow for different preferences.

"It is much simpler to obtain an emotional reaction using words and phrases that cannot be understood than it is with statements which even the simplest mind will question when hearing them in an understandable language." - The Satanic Bible
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#151180 - 03/16/06 11:30 AM Re: Enochian [Re: Bill_M]
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that's an answer i'd like
easy to understand and with a obvious conclusion
for me that's realy helpfull!

thanx!!
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#151181 - 03/16/06 12:42 PM Re: Enochian [Re: MalkaviuZ]
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I used to use the english translations of the enochian keys, but never quite felt I was achieving the desired effect, the english versions always sounded a tad on the "hammer horror, Dennis wheatley crappy" side !

I basically broke down the enochian versions phonetically syllable by syllable and found it an effective and not too time consuming way of learning them.

I find the guttural aggressiveness of the language adds focus and aids concentration in any ritual working.
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#151182 - 03/16/06 04:45 PM Re: Enochian [Re: MalkaviuZ]
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how important is enochian?
i mean der Doktor wouldnt write about it if there noting usefull or importat on it.
and where can i get some information about how to speak that language?

ps. donno if this is the right place to post.




Personally,

I think the whole point of using the Enochian "language" is to NOT understand it's meaning. How important is pronunciation when the things listening are imaginary?

It's there to aid you in SUSPENDING your rational mind.
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