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#151381 - 03/18/06 08:57 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: MagisterRose]
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By the way, if someone is so crazy they cannot be reasoned with why not drug them into a manageable stupor?


I'm not sure, something just dont seem right about it.
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#151382 - 03/18/06 08:59 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: DeLamar_J]
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Tom Cruise has less authority than most. He is a Hollywood mental health casualty who should probably be on medication himself.

An afternoon on google search could provide anyone of average intelligence with enough reliable information to realistically debate on this issue.

I am not debating this topic, just pointing out that Tom Cruise is a flake who's opinion probably has less validity than the guy who delivers pizza to your house.
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#151383 - 03/18/06 09:04 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: DeLamar_J]
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You realize there are different types and degrees of psychiatric disorders that respond to different medications in different ways to varying degrees, right?
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#151384 - 03/18/06 09:04 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: Ygraine]
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Talk therapy can be useful, but a chemical problem is best treated chemically.



I agree wholeheartedly. I am currently on medication for a chemical problem. I wouldn't even dream of taking "talk therapy" for a problem that that lies within my body alone. I mean, how stupid can you be? As Magister Rose said, this is not a black and white problem. I have never, ever, symphatised with people who are either for or against something. Especially not prescribed medication.
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#151385 - 03/18/06 09:09 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: DeLamar_J]
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What of the violent, say, paranoid schizophrenic? If he poses an immediate threat, he must be subdued and restrained physically and/or chemically. Again, not everything is in black or white. If you are more swayed by anecdotes, I have more than enough to support drug treatment for psychiatric disorders.

Fortunately, the fact that they have no value to an argument will spare me from having to post them.
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#151386 - 03/18/06 09:09 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: $lesk]
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Talk therapy can be useful, but a chemical problem is best treated chemically.



I agree wholeheartedly. I am currently on medication for a chemical problem. I wouldn't even dream of taking "talk therapy" for a problem that that lies within my body alone. I mean, how stupid can you be? As Magister Rose said, this is not a black and white problem. I have never, ever, symphatised with people who are either for or against something. Especially not prescribed medication.


From what I have read, it all boils down to this...Every case must be delt with on an individual basis. I am just a little more against drugs than for drugs. I think they should be a last resort, but still, what do I know? Its not like I have a phd, just an opinion.
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#151387 - 03/18/06 09:09 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: Svengali]
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I understand what you are saying now, Magister. Thank you for the clarification.

I agree, well, I see. When it comes to entertainment, the entertainer’s image can be very powerful, to the point where the fan will indeed even go as far as vote for a political party because their idols did so.

Like if God wasn´t enough, let´s re-inforce it with the Big Brother.

I was just pointing out that when it doesn´t come to the area of entertainment, or as far as it goes specifically with media influence, the issue has all these other bunch of angles.

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#151388 - 03/18/06 09:13 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: DeLamar_J]
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Every case must be delt with on an individual basis.




Imagine that! One size fits all is never a good option.
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#151389 - 03/18/06 09:22 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: MagisterRose]
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Imagine that! One size fits all is never a good option.




Tellme about it! I once was dumb enough to buy a "one size fits all" shirt, and i looked like I was wearing a friggin' tent!
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#151390 - 03/18/06 10:43 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: Satanya]
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I agree with you that a person can become skilled or knowledgeable in many areas. People are not uni-faceted. People tend to be shocked by me, for example, because I know about topics outside of my general area of study, when really, I think it's natural, healthy, and even necessary to have a broad knowledge and interest base.

But, I certainly agree with Magister Svengali that most actors and actresses are brainless blowhards. They aren't this way just because they're only "supposed" to be good at acting, rather, they are this way because the world they live in and the lifestyles they lead encourage them to be vapid, out-of-touch, arrogant, insecure, and spoiled. You wouldn't ask Britney Spears about a serious topic because she's dumber than a box of mice, not because she's only supposed to know about singing and (mediocre) acting.

Of course, the danger here is that so many musicians and actors get so absolutely full of themselves that they begin spouting off at the mouth at things they don't really understand, and THAT is why you must take what they say with a grain of salt. A mental midget with a god complex is truly a scary being to behold.
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#151391 - 03/18/06 10:59 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: TrojZyr]
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A mental midget with a god complex is truly a scary being to behold.




I think I love you now, darling, what is you, Republican or Democrat?

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#151392 - 03/18/06 11:06 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: Satanya]
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Both, and neither .

Nowadays, though, if I have to pick a side, I usually side with the Democrats, though not with conviction or enthusiasm.
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#151393 - 03/18/06 11:12 PM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: DeLamar_J]
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I agree that he has no REAL AUTHORITY on the topic. But do any of us? Unless we have a medical degree?

As far as I can tell, the main point that people keep coming back to here is that the advice of a medical doctor should be taken over that of an actor when it comes to medical issues. Does someone really need a medical degree to dispense that kind of advice? What kind of authority are you looking for?
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#151394 - 03/19/06 06:58 AM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: TrojZyr]
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You wouldn't ask Britney Spears about a serious topic because she's dumber than a box of mice, not because she's only supposed to know about singing and (mediocre) acting.




Oh, boy. Wait until you see Farenheit 9/11.

"Honestly (Smacking gum and twirling hair), I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that, you know, and be faithful in what happens."

It seems her reasoning skills are even poorer than her singing skills.
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#151395 - 03/19/06 07:09 AM Re: Good Tom Cruise interview [Re: London]
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Oh, yeah, now I remember that.

Just classic.

But, at least she can tell chicken from tuna, yes?
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