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So, would you rather be deaf, or blind? That's a tough one.

After seeing "In a Glass Cage" this morning, I've decided that being in an iron lung also ranks high on the Unpleasantness List.

So, here's a question: under what circumstances could a retarded person be considered Satanic? They can be rather like children, or animals, depending on the nature of the disability.

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Who would fuck a retard?

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My girlfriend seems to think it is a worthwhile pastime...

I love it when people laugh at themselves.. it's a sign of a healthy ego.
HS!

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Practically everyone with an IQ under 110 scares me, I admit, so the last thing I want to do is join that club.

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Your standards are too low dear TrojZyr.

I saw that post actually. Sometimes certain things bare repeating in a different context or situation. This forum is rather large and I'm sure that not everybody has the good sense to read all your posts.

Tantalus, this is concisely put and I agree with this completely. Pragmatism is remarkably absent in the majority of the religious. Why so few are able to see the obvious has always astounded me, but as Magister Nemo aptly put, it is man’s unfortunate nature, apparently. This actually makes the Satanist’s life much easier, as what is practical is often left untouched for us to grab. Most people are, “Too fond of the Right, to pursue the expedient.” –(Goldsmith)

-Nadine

HAIL SATAN!

I'd say, I'd rather go blind, even though it is a difficult choice. I enjoy music so much, I'd hate to never experience it again.

Who would fuck a retard?

In my experience, 1)other retards, and 2) not very nice people.

Remember, most of those people still have their sexual instincts fully intact, but will typically lack the ability to use good judgment and self-restraint. And, as a cherry on top, scumbags will often be eager to take advantage of the situation.

I would say no, they would not be Satanic.

You listed off some of the reasons why I do not think most retarded people would qualify as Satanic, but, I asked "under what circumstances" simply because there are so many different types and forms of brain damage. (I probably should've used "brain damage" the first time around to allow for that.)

One of my co-workers a long time ago was mildly retarded, but it imbued her with this profound, pragmatic common sense. She was able to see through most people's bullshit simply because she lacked the ability to rationalize or hyperbolize things like regular people. So, for example, she thought religion was idiotic, because she just saw plain existence and life for what it was, and was satisfied with that. She was therefore Satanic in certain ways.

But, while I hear what you're getting at, your actual arguments may not be airtight just yet.

They serve no purpose.

It depends on what you'd call a purpose. I imagine many of them are happy to be alive, and their loved ones may feel the same way. They may not be capable of producing great works, but then, neither are children or pets, and we still like those critters.

will always remain a burdon to their loved ones and to society.

I see what you're getting at, but, just to be clear, when are people an "appropriate" burden to others, and when are they not?

It's the mind that makes a Satanist.

I'd say it's the mind and the character/will, since I know people with great minds who are still not Satanic. But, that's just an aside.

And, children and animals don't have brilliant minds either. BUT, it works if we clarify that every being has a particular capacity range for certain kinds of achievement and thought.

I wanted to give myself plenty of wiggle room because I don't know what the mean scores for IQs are nowadays, and all I remember is that mine was not as high as I might've liked. (But then, I would've liked to have had Marilyn vos Savant's score.)

But then, I've met some insufferable MENSA members too, so it's about more than just intelligence, which is also why I can afford to be more lax about specific scores.

Suffice it to say, people with lower intelligence, common sense, and curiosity levels scare me.

Here's essentially my thoughts on intelligence. Typically I score between 140 and 170 on IQ tests, depending on how I feel that day and which sort of test I'm taking. Average intelligence is, by definition, 100. No matter what happens the average IQ will always be 100. If tomorrow everyone's IQ jumped to 200, then new IQ tests would be recalibrated so that the average IQ was 100 again. The definition for mental retardation is an IQ of 80 or below. Because this is based on a bell curve, most mentally handicapped fall in the range of 70 - 80. So, your average person is 20 - 30 IQ points above the retared. I'm 40 to 70 points above an average person. Even on my worst day there's still about twice the IQ span between myself and an average person as there is between an average person and the mentally handicapped. For me it's like living in a world in which 98% of the people I come in contact with are mentally handicapped. Most of the other 2% are emotionally or socially handicapped. That's one of the reasons I like this forum so much. There's a higher proportion of people with decent intelligence and social skills than there is in the general puplic or even Mensa. So... I typically have a hard time communicating effectively with anyone with an IQ under 120.

I have read some studies that said that the average IQ is increasing, number-wise. (Although, you are correct, I suspect, about the average automatically being re-set to 100, for convenience's sake.)

For me it's like living in a world in which 98% of the people I come in contact with are mentally handicapped. Most of the other 2% are emotionally or socially handicapped. That's one of the reasons I like this forum so much.

I hear ya there.

I think on one IQ test, I scored slightly above 120---I seem to remember 125?---and on the next one, I scored a duh-dee-dee-dee score of about 115. But, that was several years ago. The math and spatial portions of those tests really tend to get me down.