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#189858 - 09/25/06 02:42 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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#189859 - 09/25/06 03:00 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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This is a perfect example of herdishness.
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#189860 - 09/25/06 03:45 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: MagisterRose]
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Thank you! I'm glad somebody agreed with me...
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#189861 - 09/25/06 04:05 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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Take note. When white people in a group express positve feelings about their own race, and discuss some negative past experiences with other cultures, it's "herd mentality, racisim, or predjudice," when another races expresses the same views it's called "Racial Pride."

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#189862 - 09/25/06 04:35 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Asmedious]
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It's all herdishness. Racial pride is for those with no accomplishments or abilities of their own.
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#189863 - 09/25/06 04:44 PM Re: He must love being dumb. [Re: MagisterRose]
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Nor have the abilty to change their enviroment. They just rant about "pride" or looking for a "group" for shelter. I dislike this thread aswell.
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#189864 - 09/25/06 04:54 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: MagisterRose]
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It's all herdishness. Racial pride is for those with no accomplishments or abilities of their own.





Sir, I must consent that there is no argument to that answer. Very well put.

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#189865 - 09/25/06 05:09 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: TrojZyr]
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You've clearly never heard of a Vietnamese street gang.

Class doesn't matter to me. I don't mind if someone is poor, if they're clean and well-spoken and care about the community and can live and let live. I'd rather live around such people than pretentious rich folks.

What it boils down to is, regardless of wealth bracket or culture, if they actually care about being good neighbors. But I understand what Quiddity is saying, too: different people have different comfort zones when it comes to language and cultural frame of reference.

I come from a pretty white-bred, conservative part of Canada, relatively speaking, so a lot of this "being made to feel guilty for being white" stuff is quite alien to me. Now that I'm in touch with people of different cultures (Italians, even!), I find it easier to communicate because I do have a culture of my own, and can become increasingly aware of it.
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#189866 - 09/25/06 05:24 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: MagisterRose]
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This is a perfect example of herdishness.




Exactly.
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#189867 - 09/25/06 05:25 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: MagisterRose]
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It's all herdishness. Racial pride is for those with no accomplishments or abilities of their own.




Exactly II.
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#189868 - 09/25/06 05:48 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: reprobate]
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You've got a point there.

I've actually never lived, resided, or been in many areas where Asian gangs were the "big thing," so it's not part of my usual experience.

You're right about the good neighbor business. I certainly know assorted people who are poor(er) or not formally educated, but still likeable and even admirable, because they conduct themselves with dignity and courtesy. Heck, if we're factoring education into it, some of the sharpest people on this very board are people who haven't had a lot of formal schooling. I guess you could say that no matter what class you belong to, you can always choose whether or not to have class .

But, I may have some trouble getting along with people of a different or lower class, not because I'm bad, stupid, or mean, or they're necessarily bad, stupid, or mean, but because our experiences and even our values may be so different that it's hard to communicate and connect. I feel awkward around some blacks because I'm worried they're waiting for me to say something they'll construe as racist, and I stumble around people who are poor or less educated because I'll sometimes make a joke or comment that they won't get.

In these senses, I am usually more comfortable around people who are more like me, because I don't have to be as vigilant about being accidentally offensive or off-putting. But, who is "like me" doesn't just relate to a single factor, and there's certainly a hierarchy of factors there.
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#189869 - 09/25/06 06:22 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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I'm genuinely curious. How so?




Simple. Different cultures have different standards. A Caucasian person from a Spanish speaking country would not be considered white in the U.S. but "Latino". Some people don’t consider Italians to be white either.

The same happens with other nationalities. Some people who were officially "Caucasian" in their original countries find out they are given a different label here.

Race is a subjective concept that varies a lot from one culture to another.

In the Unites States everyone with just a little African ancestry is called “black” even if his skin is light brown. In other countries to be considered “black” you have to be really dark in color and everything else is considered white despite of African features. It’s all a matter of comparison.
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#189870 - 09/25/06 08:22 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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I agree with half.

I could care less about the pigment of skin.

Literally speaking, pigment cells have nothing to do with literacy, or knowing how to speak any one given language.

And for the record, Pussy is pussy. Again, the organ, Vagina, has nothing to do with the pigment cell.

With that out of the way, since I could go on all day long about how pigment cells have nothing to do with the points I do agree with, I'd like to say; that was half as good a post as it could have been coming from someone like yourself.

You're a wizard with words, and we've all seen it.

so what is this shite about skin pigment glorification.

It is akin to using the word nature, or natural, as the root of a day to day arguement, such as homosexuality.

Get over it hispanic guy.

I'm white too, but could not find one thing to compare to my pigment cells that made me who I am.

Maybe I missed it.
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#189871 - 09/25/06 08:22 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Asmedious]
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I think it is silly sand-box ethics for any race to do it.

Children. Well, more like tiny baby monkeys.
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#189872 - 09/25/06 08:40 PM Re: I love being a fucking white man. [Re: Quiddity]
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I'm Brazilian, I've got Italian citizenship, I live in London, my girlfriend is Slovak, my best friends are Czechs and my boss is Irish -- and no, there's no cultural shock or misunderstandigs at all. Life is adaptation -- and adaptation is evolution.

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