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I don't think kids need to be taught to enjoy torturing guinea pigs if they're so inclined, but perhaps they do need to be taught to hate and fear certain ethnic or social groups in particular.

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Why?

You know what? I'm not sure. Now that I think about it, I don't have any evidence to support the notion one way or the other. I just remember some kids in school who seemed "naturally" predatory and heedless of punishment from teachers. But I suppose they could have learned that behavior from their parents or siblings.

Wow, a really stimulating discussion they had there. Some amussing things like that bit about 'that which is comfort, and that which is true,' one'd have to agree that many people seem unable to grasp the essential difference between those concepts. Other interesting part was that guy who went on to argue that it's because one believes that a ball can bounce; that he's seeing professor Dawkins in front of him because he believe so... Reminds of an Internet debate I had with some 16-year-old christian kid, I'd never thought university level students would make such arguments (we experience the world through our senses, should these senses be disturbed by the use of drugs that experience just changes, it's modified, but it's still accurate so far as our senses are concerned).

Thanks for sharing, eh?

I think she was asking about this part:

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perhaps they do need to be taught to hate and fear certain ethnic or social groups in particular

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... because it's ambiguous. I think lexiphanic took you to be saying that kids should be taught to hate and fear. You could also be saying, if they are going to wind up hating or fearing, they would have to have been taught it.

Oh, sorry. I wasn't clear enough.

I don't condone teaching kids to hate. I meant to say that parents who hate teach their kids to do the same. I've seen films of KKK rallies where the participants take their kids, for example.

I am not very scientifically minded probably more science fiction minded than anything

Sounds like it. Again, just because you think you know what is best for nature doesn't mean you do. In fact, you probably don't.

Evolutionarily speaking, if the "intelligent elite" are so lacking in reproductive urge that they are totally overrun by the readily reproducing idiot masses, then they deserve to be stamped out from the gene pool. Simple as that.

Thank you for clearing that up. Reprobate was correct, your phrasing was unclear.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clear it up. Dumb mistake on my part.

It seems like I have been programmed by the media into thinking that only calamity can come from tampering with nature.

You seriously think that? Then why are you using the internet or enjoying cooked food? Both are products from tampering with nature.

Godzilla is knocking on your front door.

I'm just a cog in the wheel, an insignificant little blurp on the screen. I love Godzilla. Come to me Godzilla and let me pet you on your nose.

No one can tame Godzilla!

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I'm just a cog in the wheel, an insignificant little blurp on the screen.

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If that's where you like to be, then don't f*cking complain about it!

That's what most people are. At least I know what I am. Who is more than that? There are some people who are. I will respect your right to tell me you don't want to hear my complaints.

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That's what most people are.

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You imply that is resonable justification for your conclusion.

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Who is more than that?

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I am.

What did you think being your own god meant?