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#209164 - 12/19/06 09:04 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: SadisticRage]
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Without going into detail I will just say from my personal experience (a four year relationship) it doesn't work. So what kept me from not ending it sooner? The sex was phenomenal.

And he was an "atheist"
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#209165 - 12/20/06 06:19 AM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: SadisticRage]
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It may not be addressed to you, and some of it is not, though you might find some of the Satanic Youth Communique a help in how to deal with close friends and family in introducing Satanism.

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“My parents and friends don’t understand me, and don’t approve of my interest in Satanism. How can I make them accept my beliefs, and where can I go to perform my rituals?”

Unfortunately, most young Satanists face this problem. Few of us are lucky enough to have sympathetic parents, or others around like ourselves. However, as long as you are living under your parents’ roof and they are feeding and taking care of you, you do owe them a degree of consideration. Offer to let them read your books, and talk about what misunderstandings they may have from T.V. talk shows and Christian propaganda. But you can’t force anyone to understand what, for you, is an obvious and magical revelation. If Satanism offends others who have necessary control over your life right now, do your studies and rituals in private. If you don’t have a place at home where you can be alone, find a special spot on the beach, in a field, or in the woods where you can ritualize when you need to. While you are understandably enthusiastic about your new-found religion, it is not very Satanic to make yourself miserable by creating a problem with your parents when you have to live in the same house together, or at school where your real goal may be to aggravate those in authority in the guise of “expressing your individuality.”

Practice Lesser Magic. Remember that a competent Satanic magician should be able to size up any situation and weigh his choices of action to bring about desired results. Enthusiasm is certainly encouraged and appreciated, however Satanism asks no one to be a martyr. And keep in mind that most people simply aren’t going to understand because, ultimately, they don’t want to. That is as it should be. Satanism is not for everyone. Satan, as depicted in myth and literature, by his very nature walks alone. He is therefore the embodiment of the true individualist, the outcast. This doesn’t mean that you cannot care about those who are close to you; Satan also represents love, kindness and respect to those who deserve it. It just means that you should not concern yourself with people who do not approve of you. Revel in your uniqueness; be proud of who and what you are. Achieve all you can with the strength and determination of Satan himself coursing proudly through your veins. When Satanism leads to positive changes in your accomplishments and attitude, your parents and other adults around you will notice. The best way you can represent Satanism, at any age, is by providing a living example of how the diabolical arts have made you a stronger, more focused, joyful person. The results will speak louder than any logical argument you can present.


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#209166 - 12/20/06 12:58 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: Zaftig]
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I literally am not married. I never was. To be married you have to at least go to court and legally do it.I will never have a marriage ordained by anything other than a satanic religion, and I am not interested in Ever getting married. bottom line. Now some guys who are not interested in someone, may say oh, I see you are with someone, you live with someone, after living with someone for a period of time its considered common law. Im not interested in you so instead of just telling you that I will say, but you are married, not interested. Some women who Are legally married, if a guy wants them (other than their spouce), they will say I dont care if your married. Im not married. I dont consider myself in any kind of relationship, boyfriend or otherwise because I am not lusting after anyone. I am not in a relationship where there is sexual lust where Im fantasizing about being with the person sexually. or getting turned on by the thought of this person kissing me.Im in a day to day normal public life existance. survival. That does not mean that my mind does not have its own desires. I go through periods of maybe liking one person, usually someone ive never met, and lusting after them. sometimes theres nobody that I like, but the lust urge is there and there is no one around that I would actually want to be with. those are the times where I wish I could just possibly find someone new to be with either as a boyfriend or a few days. when I think of the term marriage In a normal(ideal) lustful sense, I am thinking in terms of the future, falling in love or wanting to have sex When I meet the right person, as in something that Has Not happened yet. But those are white light childish fantasy thinking and the truth is marriage is not really in my vocabulary anymore. on a non lustful note, marriage can also have a different meaning, (again white light or societal thinking.) an institution in which 2 people decide to stay together, only have sex (not lust) just an act, with each other for the purpose of a family life complete with inlaws. To me that is not lust, if Im lusting after someone the last thing I want to do is meet their parents, go to a gathering (wedding) the whole thing is just anti-lust, anti-private. To me lust, and society day to day life do not mix. That does not mean Im incapable of lust,or the thought, feeling of desire. It means I don't associate it with marriage at all. Also, I think its possible that actually having sex with someone, can kill the Desire to have sex with them, and I think the desire is more important, more valuable. I could be wrong its possible that if you have sex with someone that you'll lust after them more and more and like them more than if you never did have sex with them. Again, theres different levels of desire, you may just be feeling a basic sex urge and want the person your desiring, or you may really like the person so much that you want it to lead to that fullfillment and (closeness) bond with that person.Or you might just not be interested in sex at all. And just because you have stong feelings for (because of) a person does not mean they feel the same about you, or that they dont feel that intensity for Someone Else. So its really stupid to allow yourselve to get in the vulnerable position of liking someone because, they'll never know how you feel. If a person just has sex with the person their lusting after, thats fine. but when you dont like anybody, theres no reason to lust after anyone, plus, no one wants someone to be in love with them because is it going to devastae the weak individual whos "in love" as well as in lust, if the one "loved " should drop off the face of the earth.(existance.)
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#209167 - 12/20/06 01:04 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
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Ok.


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#209168 - 12/20/06 01:06 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
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To be married you have to at least go to court and legally do it.




Actually, all you have to do is say, "Hey Bob, meet my wife [name]."

You'll never catch me getting married in a chapel. But that doesn't mean I won't have a wife someday.

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#209169 - 12/20/06 01:07 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
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Registered: 07/18/06
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Can you paragraph that? I couldn't get 5 lines into it.

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#209170 - 12/20/06 01:19 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: Mr_47]
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Actually, you are right. But what I am saying is that when I do get married or a "hello we're now married", is I want it to be a Lust/desire relationship, with someone im willing to surrender to, than a simple platonic friendship, aquantaince deal. Someone with the capabilities never to be destoyed or conquered by anyone else. if it were to be permanent. which its never going to happen. but sometimes you only lust after someone for a short period of time. in which case its better to do something about it then, than to say, no I dont want something permanent, so I dont want anything at all. Actually, theres nothing wrong with saying that.


Edited by 9076 (12/20/06 01:32 PM)

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#209171 - 12/20/06 01:28 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
Zaftig Offline
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Great.

I was simply commenting that Satanic philosophy does neither officially condone nor condemn marriage as you inferred here. I was pointing out that it's up to the individual to decide the terms of whatever relationship they'd like to have.

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#209172 - 12/20/06 01:37 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: Zaftig]
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That's okay, I was just correcting a misinterpretation, I think it implied that I was married and trying to hide that fact, and I was simply clarifying that no I am not married, not legally, and not by my personal definition of marriage.I simply am not married.(and maybe Im a little sad about that, I would like a real sexual relationship one day, unless thats not really what I want.


Edited by 9076 (12/20/06 01:38 PM)

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#209173 - 12/20/06 02:52 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
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I could be wrong its possible that if you have sex with someone that you'll lust after them more and more and like them more than if you never did have sex with them.




Yes, it's definitely possible to lust after someone more after you've had sex with them.

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So its really stupid to allow yourselve to get in the vulnerable position of liking someone because, they'll never know how you feel.




Why not??

I could be wrong because it was damn difficult to follow your post but most of what you wrote suggests you're basing your conclusions on conjecture, not experience.
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#209174 - 12/20/06 03:28 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
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I would like a real sexual relationship one day, unless thats not really what I want.





Even though this makes no sense, it goes against everything you wrote in your introductory post...
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#209175 - 12/20/06 03:37 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: Minus]
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Hello MinusXIII, I know what I wrote didn't make much sense, thats not really a sentance I would have highlighted, I think now that you've mentioned it I'm going to go back and delete that statement. I just really am not married and I think I just wanted to emphsize that I am not married. I am not legally married, because I don't choose to be. That does not imply that Im dating tons of people, or even anyone at all right now. (on second thought, after rereading my paragraph, I'll leave the sentence in there because it was just a thought.)


Edited by 9076 (12/20/06 03:39 PM)
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#209176 - 12/20/06 03:41 PM Re: "Please don't feed the monkeys"... [Re: 9076]
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No bananas for you...

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#209177 - 12/20/06 03:42 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: Minus]
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it goes against everything you wrote in your introductory post...




And here the user is supposed to ask, "What introductory post?"

You're assuming too much MinusXIII.

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#209178 - 12/20/06 03:51 PM Re: You are a satanist, but your husband/wife is not [Re: 9076]
Shade Offline
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Hello MinusXIII, I know what I wrote didn't make much sense, thats not really a sentance I would have highlighted, I think now that you've mentioned it I'm going to go back and delete that statement. I just really am not married and I think I just wanted to emphsize that I am not married. I am not legally married, because I don't choose to be. That does not imply that Im dating tons of people, or even anyone at all right now. (on second thought, after rereading my paragraph, I'll leave the sentence in there because it was just a thought.)




<whistles>

"Gollum:
We wants it, we needs it. Must have the Preciousss. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, falssse!
Sméagol:
No! No! Master!
Gollum:
Yess. Preciousss first. They will cheat you, hurt you, lie!
Sméagol:
Master's my friend.
Gollum:
You don't have any friends. Nobody likes you.
Sméagol:
Not listening. Not listening.
Gollum:
You´re a liar, and a thief.
Sméagol:
No.
Gollum:
Murderer!
Sméagol:
Go away.
Gollum:
Go away?! Ahahhaa!
Sméagol:
I hate you, I hate you.
Gollum:
Where would you be without me? Gollum. Gollum. I saved us. It was me. We survived because of me.
Sméagol:
Not anymore.
Gollum:
What did you say?
Sméagol:
Master looks after us now. We don't need you.
Gollum:
What?
Sméagol:
Leave now and never come back.
Gollum:
No!
Sméagol:
Leave now and never come back!
Gollum:
Ahh!
Sméagol:
LEAVE NOW AND NEVER COME BACK!
[Silence]
Sméagol:
We told him to go away! And away he goes, preciousss. Gone, gone, gone, Sméagol is free!"

The Two Towers
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