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#212712 - 01/03/07 04:10 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Nidhogg]
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there is no intelligent design to nature thats all. Thus there is no actual purpose inherent in the existence of gender aside from perpetuation.




Lack of intelligent design does not mean that we haven't naturally ADOPTED these roles, through the generations these roles have just become more and more ingrained into our genetic materials.

It is apparently for the good of the race as a whole that we are dumber, live shorter, kill each other, and have the natural need to provide.

Of course we don't have to conform... it is just in our nature.

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#212713 - 01/03/07 04:10 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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What Daark said.

I knew there had to be something good with that y-cromosome.
Mostly, though, they do whatever I ask of them. And I'm still a virgin.
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#212714 - 01/03/07 04:16 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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Okay... I like this reply too!

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#212715 - 01/03/07 04:17 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: $lesk]
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Oh, that was good. Very good.

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#212716 - 01/03/07 04:25 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Felstorm]
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screw your nuts on and go knock some shit over with your dick.




Felstorm, you are one hilarious motherfucker.

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#212717 - 01/03/07 04:33 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: tovasshi]
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There are two sides to that coin.

I've been privy to a lot of private "girl-talk" in my life.

I assure you that for every 10 'empowered' females who 'talk the talk' and claim to be masters of men, at least 5 of them would throw themselves before the first guy willing to treat them like dirty, stupid whores.

If men are 'enslaved' to women, it is at least in part because of other men. Long before the word 'feminism' ever existed, society (read: men) thought that it would be a good idea to legally and morally bind men to women--precisely because men would otherwise shirk the responsibility of child bearing and move on to the next broad, not because women 'control' them. We have all sorts of social stigma that prevent men from dominating women and treating thenm like garbage, because we don't think that's fair or a good idea in the long run. But left to their own devices, this is exactly what many men would do. Remember that the reason, in many cases, that women can boss men around today is because men decided long ago it was unmanly to hit a woman. Without the social constructs that protect women, this whole notion of perfect equality and men being slaves to women would fall apart rapidly. In the same way that Hurrican Katrina revealed what happens when law and order breaks down.

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#212718 - 01/03/07 05:10 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Rory_Rocketpants]
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screw your nuts on and go knock some shit over with your dick.




Felstorm, you are one hilarious motherfucker.




The whiny-ness from some of these guys is overwhelming.
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#212719 - 01/03/07 05:19 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Jack_Lantern]
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There is no purpose to human existence except to procreate.




Well, to throw the ball back in your court, who gave us that purpose?




I missed this one.
To answer: reproduction is a biological imperative (that can be overridden).
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#212720 - 01/03/07 05:19 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Felstorm]
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I'm sorry, but women are supposed to cook and sew and do the dishes and nuture the kids for those first few years.

Men are supposed to be the breadwinners. "Slaves" if you must. We're the soldiers, the fighters, the workers. We're supposed to teach our sons to fight, to work, to kill, to be strong. That is how the male sex is personified, strength.




Let's face it, we're all slaves to our children. If we didn't procreate we could be free!


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#212721 - 01/03/07 05:34 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Old_Pig]
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Is it that the alpha male dominates the females, or that he dominates all the other males, making him the most desirable male from which the females choose? They wouldn't choose him unless he could demonstrate that he was strongest.
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#212722 - 01/03/07 05:40 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Incubus]
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Is it that the alpha male dominates the females, or that he dominates all the other males, making him the most desirable male from which the females choose? They wouldn't choose him unless he could demonstrate that he was strongest.




In this day and age.

It is survival of the smoothest.
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#212723 - 01/03/07 05:41 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Felstorm]
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Indeed. Thanks for the tip!
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-Empedocles (c.490 - 430 BCE)




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#212724 - 01/03/07 06:22 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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An excellent post!

And completely correct biologically speaking.

Since biology is the context here, I'm not sure why anyone brought social commentary to the table; although it was funny.
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#212725 - 01/03/07 06:32 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: ElJago]
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Humans are in the unique position to consciously override genetic blueprints.

That's just the way we evolved.

This simple observation is the only one necessary to answer the hang-ups that this thread produced.

Context is everything.
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#212726 - 01/03/07 06:50 PM Re: Men are Slaves [Re: Poetaster]
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Yeah, funny AND entertaining!
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