#212913 - 01/03/07 04:30 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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considering I enjoy masturbation and fantasy as well and she has no problem with this
Then what is your problem?
Look at other women, don't touch. Do what you want with them in your head...
If you need to have sex with other women, (noone needs it, but people are compelled to do it...) then you should be ready to break up with your partner.
Seriously, couldn't you figure that out by yourself?
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#212914 - 01/03/07 04:36 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Rory_Rocketpants]
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If you need to have sex with other women, (noone needs it, but people are compelled to do it...) then you should be ready to break up with your partner.
I have to disagree with you here, Adequate. I see nothing wrong with a little swinging as long as his woman is okay with it. But he has to discuss that with her. Of course, if she does the same, then he can't be mad, hence why I suggested he read that particular chapter.
He may find out that it's okay if he seriously discussed it with her, then again he may go the road you suggested. 
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#212916 - 01/03/07 04:44 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Mr_47]
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If you need to have sex with other women, (noone needs it, but people are compelled to do it...) then you should be ready to break up with your partner.
I have to disagree with you here, Adequate. I see nothing wrong with a little swinging as long as his woman is okay with it. But he has to discuss that with her.
Ah, I was trying to say that to do it without warning, and without telling his wife would be classed as compulsion, and would be rather stupid. Though, he did say that his wife would not agree with it, even if he explained his situation, which is why I did not elaborate...
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#212917 - 01/03/07 04:45 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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#212920 - 01/03/07 05:02 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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If you can't Be Good - Be Careful If you can't Be Careful - Don't get caught Seriously - nobody but you knows the answer. (as you should well know!) But the fact that you are asking seems to me like you know what you want, but need to some kind of reassurance or justification from others. If I have misread your post and you are looking for genuine relationship advice, then fine. I hope you get it. Ask what you want and expect from posting this: Relationship advice or a Satanic justification for cheating on your wife Whatever you decide, Good luck! 
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#212925 - 01/03/07 06:28 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Mr_47]
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Such an evil witch. 
I figure going the Real Doll route would solve a few problems:
1. Having sex with a doll isn't the same as cheating on a spouse one proclaims to love. Not knowing his wife, though, I don't know what her reaction to the doll might be. He could always offer to buy a male Real Doll for her. Then they could both play at swinging or stage mock orgies.
2. Providing the doll's orifices are kept clean, the chances of catching an STD or other disease are lower than if he visited his local prostitute.
3. It's cheaper in the long run, because he won't have to pay for dinners, dates, hotel/motel rooms, prostitutes, alimony, child support, legal fees, etc.
4. The doll won't get emotionally attached to him, which eliminates a whole slew of other problems.
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#212926 - 01/03/07 06:29 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Avidien]
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Look at other women, don't touch. Do what you want with them in your head...
If he does that and then can not follow through physically he will then be physically repressing those desires. The question is, would it be illegal, since he is married. not that it would be fullfilled in every instance anyway.
Also, if someone is lusting after someone else (other than "the so-called spouce"), then that means they are not lusting after anyone else (including the spouce), I think you can only lust after one person at a time, and that may change fairly quickly. In other words if your lusting after someone else, then your obviously no longer lusting after "the one he's with". In other words your lusting after some(one)(the most) at any given time.
Okay.......  Sounds like the whole "Who's on first" problem to me.
 
Hail Satan!
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#212927 - 01/03/07 06:37 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: LKRice]
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Love ya... . No doubt, that was too good. 
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#212930 - 01/03/07 07:31 PM
You already know the answer.
[Re: buzzoff]
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You will not find validating reasons to be unfaithful here.
If you do, question their intent.
That said, go ahead and get some strange; you've got nothing to lose!
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#212931 - 01/03/07 07:52 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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It's your life mate, I don't care what you do with it.
I have a sneaking suspicion that that's exactly what you DIDN'T want to hear.
Keep in mind that some people are paid professionals, and they get paid to give professional advice.
If it's that important to you, then go see one of them.
Edited by AmbientLogic (01/03/07 08:06 PM)
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#212932 - 01/03/07 08:22 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: LKRice]
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4. The doll won't get emotionally attached to him, which eliminates a whole slew of other problems.
Although he runs the risk of getting emotionally attached to the doll. 
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#212933 - 01/03/07 09:11 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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Determine for yourself what is more important-your desires or the love between you and your wife.
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#212934 - 01/03/07 09:14 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: redheadgrl]
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Determine for yourself what is more important-your desires or the love between you and your wife.
Or quite possibly the lack thereof.
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#212935 - 01/03/07 09:18 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Mr_47]
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Or quite possibly the lack thereof.
It's a slam dunk if that is true.
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#212938 - 01/04/07 01:14 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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>>but there are times when i wish to have sex with other
>>women.
There are plenty of options out there for married people who aren't happy with their monogamy as it stands right now. There's Polygamy, "swinging", role-playing in the bed room, artificial human companions, etc. Talk it over.
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#212941 - 01/04/07 05:21 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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You could always try masturbatory fantasy.
Feeling frustrated ?, sexually uptight ?
Have a wank.
Or talk to your wife, there might be times when she wants to have sex with other men. Did that ever occur to you ?
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Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said, "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." - Lewis Carroll, Through the looking glass.
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#212942 - 01/04/07 09:10 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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it would hurt her a great deal and me as well.
You got the answer right there, so what's your problem? - If it's gonna hurt you, and her, then it would be very destructive and stupid to do anything, unless you want to end the relationship?!
If you want to end the relationship then tell her before you start to sleep with others, respect her and yourself that much.
I can only speak for myself now, If I'm in a relationship and start to think about having sex with others then I know it's time for me to leave that relationship.
Right now I prefer to be single and free, because that way I don't hurt anybody, at least not consciously.
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#212943 - 01/04/07 09:58 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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Agreed. If you're thinking of lying, it is not love, as I see it. I, for one, have always been honest to the people I care about. As a side note. In this day and age, where decieving and lying seems to be all the rage, I gain so much more by always being totally honest about everything. Oh how the girls love to hear who I did last week end.
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#212944 - 01/04/07 10:04 AM
Re: Sex Questions
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I would advise against it, but at the same time I refuse to be one to tell you how to live your life and to help you make decisions. All I know is that mine is just as jealous as I am, and would likely kill me AND whoever I slept with were I to cheat...
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#212946 - 01/04/07 11:01 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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#212947 - 01/04/07 02:04 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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I have another question. Realizing that I am a Satanist has been a beautiful revalation to me. I thank "The Doctor." For all that he accomplished. That being said (and since it has nothing to do with my question)...I love my wife very much, but there are times when i wish to have sex with other women. Now, should I go through with this and my wife find out, it would hurt her a great deal and me as well. So, the question is this...should I fulfill my desires and hide it from her, talk to her about extramarital affairs (which would kill the relationship) or, realizing that hurting her hurts me as well (and considering I enjoy masturbation and fantasy as well and she has no problem with this) and not go through with it. Thanks in advance.
Judging by what you wrote, and by experience with men like yourself (married):
My advice, don't do it. Trust me on this one. You can't handle the "guilt." You are already struggling with it.
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#212948 - 01/04/07 02:43 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: gypsy]
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You can't handle the "guilt." You are already struggling with it.
This is a extremely good point.
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#212949 - 01/04/07 02:53 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Quaark]
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#212950 - 01/04/07 02:57 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Shiva]
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#212951 - 01/04/07 03:48 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: RandomStranger]
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I appreciate everyone's advice. The only reason I brought this up was that, though I've read TSB more than once, I still, at times, take things out of context. So, as I've read the chapter on Satanic Sex and struggled with what it says, I fail to remember that it would not be advantageous for me to cheat. In other words, though I should do what I can to fulfill all of my sexual desires, I should ALWAYS do the thing that is most advantageous for me, including not hurting my wife (which not only hurts me emotionally as well, but could lead to other unpleasant circumstances). As I said, I love my wife. Period. Which is why the struggle. Again, thanks for the advice.
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#212952 - 01/04/07 04:23 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: RandomStranger]
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#212953 - 01/04/07 04:23 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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How do you fail to remember something so instinctual?
If you love your wife and she doesn't want you to cheat then don't cheat. If you have desires for others and it would upset her to mention it, don't mention it.
It's that simple.
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#212954 - 01/04/07 05:57 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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As I said, I love my wife. Period.
Well next time she leaves the house, grab this:
And grab a picture of this:
Then get to work.
Trust me. You wouldn't want to look at another woman other than your wife ever again.
HS!
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#212956 - 01/04/07 07:59 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Shiva]
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#212957 - 01/04/07 10:19 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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As I said, I love my wife. Period. Which is why the struggle. Again, thanks for the advice.
I have noticed how you keep repeating yourself, are you trying to convince yourself that you still love your wife? - Or are you actually in denial about the fact that you love her in another way now? Maybe it's too painful for you to admit the truth here?!
As I said before, if I'm thinking about others when I'm in a relationship then I know it's because my love for that person is either dying, or changing, for me love and sex is connected.
But I know that many people can separate love/sex ... maybe you should ask yourself if you are one of them? - if the answer is no, then I think you love your wife in another way now.
And then you can do two things, work on the relationship, tell your wife what you miss, give her what she loves, make her feel like the best woman in the world! - And then I'm sure she will also please you, because if you2 still love each other then it's worth fighting for, but the communication between you2 isn't working right now, make it work if you want to safe the love!
If the truth is that you actually don't love your wife in that special way anymore, then leave, don't hurt her or yourself by living a lie.
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#212960 - 01/05/07 12:51 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: LightAngel]
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I have noticed how you keep repeating yourself, are you trying to convince yourself that you still love your wife? - Or are you actually in denial about the fact that you love her in another way now? Maybe it's too painful for you to admit the truth here?!
Bingo! Sentimentality is a bitch, heck it's a goddam monkey on your back. 
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#212961 - 01/05/07 02:11 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Luigi Hammarlund]
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#212962 - 01/05/07 07:32 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Avidien]
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Loc: Brighton, England
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I think you can only lust after one person at a time
I am not currently in a relationship, and haven't been for awhile, but in my experience it is perfectly possible for me to lust over more than one woman at a time!
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#212963 - 01/05/07 07:33 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Luigi Hammarlund]
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Another option: 
....but only if it's one with a pretty face...
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#212964 - 01/05/07 08:47 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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Well, that is a strange question. It is as if you were asking: “may I cheat my wife, please?”
Do as you please. I am not good at this, because I do not have emotional attachments to women. I have never been in love, I think. Personally, with respect to women, I only appreciate sex, good manners, and good conversation, in this order.
Best,
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#212966 - 01/05/07 09:58 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Luigi Hammarlund]
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Safe sex: painting X's on the sheep that kick.
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#212967 - 01/05/07 01:59 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: TrojZyr]
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Registered: 04/19/06
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I'm not trying to convince myself of anything. The Satanic Bible says, "...this does not include the unintentional hurt felt by those who might not agree with your views on sex...Naturally, you should avoid offending others who mean a great deal to you...However...despite you best efforts they accidentally find out..."
This is why I struggled. Before asking the question in my original post (and more importantly before thinking a bit about it), I took this to mean, "If you feel the need to have extra-marrital sex, try to hide it. If you get caught, it's not your fault." Now, however, I realize this means something more like "If you lust after women other than your wife, fulfill your desires through fantasy, and if she has a problem with that, that is not your problem." This may be oversimplification, but for me, this re-statement works.
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#212969 - 01/05/07 02:19 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Mr Sam]
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Registered: 04/19/06
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Loc: Alabama
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There is no need to look to the Satanic Bible for answers, you should know what to do (at least in this subject) without it.
Yeah. You're right. The fucked up thing is that, since I've read TSB, I've been so excited about it that I've wanted to be the "perfect Satanist." I'm really only now getting what being a Satanist actually means. And cheating on my wife is not one of the things I would do (as a Satanist, buddhist, wiccan, christian...whatever). I found myself in TSB. I don't need to worry about what OTHER Satanists would do. I just have to know for myself.
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#212972 - 01/05/07 04:26 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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Loc: Sydney, Australia
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There is no need to look to the Satanic Bible for answers, you should know what to do (at least in this subject) without it.
Yeah. You're right. The fucked up thing is that, since I've read TSB, I've been so excited about it that I've wanted to be the "perfect Satanist." I'm really only now getting what being a Satanist actually means. And cheating on my wife is not one of the things I would do (as a Satanist, buddhist, wiccan, christian...whatever). I found myself in TSB. I don't need to worry about what OTHER Satanists would do. I just have to know for myself.
Very good.
Seems like the penny has dropped so to speak.
HAIL SATAN!
Edited by BlueHeeler (01/05/07 04:27 PM)
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#212973 - 01/05/07 05:31 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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Loc: East Coast, USA.
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I don't need to worry about what OTHER Satanists would do. I just have to know for myself.
You got it captain.
Remember that the next time you take The Satanic Bible as an all encompassing dogma, that Satanists must follow to the letter. If you're forcing yourself to act in accordance with said book, then you're hardly the "perfect Satanist," which doesn't exist I will add.
My opinion is that The Satanic Bible merely shines a light on reality, and the Satanist simply recognizes that reality when he sees it. A Satanist shouldn't read The Satanic Bible and say "so that's how I should be acting, well let me get on that," he just says "so this is what it's called, and this is what I am."
If the thought of cheating on your wife really does cause you anguish, then stop trying to find justification within the pages of The Satanic Bible, and simply don't do it.
If, however, you give into the compulsion, suck it up, tell your wife and move on. That's really what it means to be a Satanist. Accepting the good with the bad, learning from the bad and multiplying the good. Whenever possible, don't repeat the bad--simplified but effective.
Compulsion sucks and it's hardly Satanic, but it happens. Anyone that tells you it doesn't, is lying to you. Now you need to figure out what's important to you, and leave the rest for later.
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#212974 - 01/05/07 06:22 PM
New Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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I don't have girl friend and didn't have sex before.Now,I wish to have sex with beautiful girls.Can Satan or church fulfil my wish?I really want to have sex,but no partner.What am I suppose to do?
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#212976 - 01/05/07 06:28 PM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: american1987]
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Rent a hooker.
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#212978 - 01/05/07 06:47 PM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: RandomStranger]
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I don't have girl friend and didn't have sex before.Now,I wish to have sex with beautiful girls.Can Satan or church fulfil my wish?I really want to have sex,but no partner.What am I suppose to do?
I offer help in department and have the knowledge you seek.
Currently, I am only accepting payment in euros.
No doubt, checks are made payable to some obscure, off-shore swedish banker?
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#212979 - 01/05/07 06:58 PM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: RandomStranger]
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I don't have girl friend and didn't have sex before.Now,I wish to have sex with beautiful girls.Can Satan or church fulfil my wish?I really want to have sex,but no partner.What am I suppose to do?
I offer help in department and have the knowledge you seek.
Currently, I am only accepting payment in euros.
Damn, and I only have American Dollars and British Pounds.
Just My luck, a day late and a Euro short...
WAIT! I do have ONE Euro in My coin purse, is that sufficient?
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#212980 - 01/05/07 08:53 PM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: american1987]
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America really is going to hell in a hand basket.
This guy is probably still only 19. I did not lose my virginity until I was twenty. No rush. Take it easy, low rider.
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#212981 - 01/05/07 10:12 PM
Re: Sex Questions
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#212982 - 01/06/07 05:30 AM
Re: Sex Questions
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Safe sex: painting X's on the sheep that kick.
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#212983 - 01/06/07 09:52 AM
Re: Sex Questions
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I wish to submit my personal opinion on this matter.
I realize that in many relationships there is a degree of compromise involved. Very few out there find "the perfect mate", if in fact that even exists. However, there are a few topics that I will not compromise on, for any reason, in any relationship.
One is that I am a Satanist. It is a matter of choice whether one reveals their association with Satanism or not. I choose to hide it from no one. If asked, I do not deny it, and with some I even admit it readily. This is something that I will not hide. Before entering into any relationship, I've always told the lady up front. It really doesn't matter to me if she's a Satanist or not, (although I'd prefer for her to be), but she can have no problem with it or I simply will not become any further involved. And, should she at a later date, begin to have mixed feelings about my practices and my work, then she is simply given the choice to leave it alone, or I'm out no matter what our status at the moment or how long we've been together.
I feel that for me to hang onto such a relationship will only place a negative Willpower against the positive Will that I enforce, and strengthen, in my Satanic workings. Not to mention, of course, that it is a subject that will never be dropped or resolved, and every other aspect of our relationship will suffer. I simply do not have time for this. They either accept it, or they don't.
Another part of myself that I will not compromise on are my indulgences. As far as a relationship being polygamous, or monogamous, I actually have no preference either way. While I feel no need to be sexually active with anyone other that the girl I am with at the time, I certainly would not deny her such if this were her fantasy. By the same token, if she has a desire or a need to be with other people, then I must allow it...or let her go. Again, there would be no use for us being together if I denied her of any of her indulgences. There is always someone out there for the both of us wherin we can find fulfillment in this aspect as well.
The thing that has always worked for me is the realization that love is not an emotion, it is a state of mind. I can, and very often do, choose by my Willpower to alter my state of mind, as well and the states of mind of others.
Quite simply put, if I choose to accept the state of mind called love, then I will. If I choose at any given moment to deny it, then I have that perogative as well. Love only hurts if one let's it.
Again, just my opinions.
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#212984 - 01/16/07 09:58 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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I might suggest talking to your mate, & telling her upfront, about any sexual problems you may have
(If You strongly feel that you need to have sex with someone else, & she says no, you may want to look into other options)
On the other hand...lets suppose having sex wih someone else is not an option(Well there are other options out there).
In the past, I've dated (some--not all of them) women, who were grear at romance, yet very unimaginative in bed. Again, I might suggest talking to your partner, to learn his/or her response regarding the matter
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#212985 - 04/10/07 09:36 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: Discipline]
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I thought Satanism was about (as well) Not trying to be a psychic.You proport to guess that possibly someone might be old enough to use a message board that is not even yours to decide? Talk about unnessesary.
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#212986 - 04/10/07 09:56 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: buzzoff]
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ok, this goes more personal than i usually like to be but since it touches upon a simullar situation inwhich i find myself, i thought i would comment. I have been married 6 years. My wife had an affair at about the 6 month mark. I took my vows to her seriously and supported her and waited her out for her decision to stay. We've worked had to save the marriage but over time it has lost spark. There is little passion..none actually. We have had sex about 4 times over the past 3 years. Now, I dont know how YOUR relationship fairs, hopefully better than that. But, if your wants and sdesires are not being met the underlying problem MUST be attended to. The question is what is lacking in the marriage and how to fix it. If its just the sex than you have to decide for yourself if the pleasure is worth the hurt.
Recently i have met and fallen in love with an amazing person who i never thought could exist. This has its own set problems but everything in its own time.
So, now here i am. I'm married to someone who i DO care about deeply and DO NOT want to hurt, as she IS my best friend ( just not much else), yet i know that staying inthis relationship is a waste for us both.
I understand the temptations of "gettin some strange" but since i met this amazing person i look at it in a whole new way. We have not been intimate, and yet i still find i have no interest in anyone else. I think the problem is in the marriage not satisfing you in which case you must decide where to go with it.
any how, i hope this helps.
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#212987 - 04/10/07 10:22 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: May]
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You dug this thread up for that crock of shit that made absolutely zero sense. Don't you ever get tired of being a fool?
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#212988 - 04/10/07 10:30 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: gypsy]
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Don't you ever get tired of being a fool?
My sources say 'no'.
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#212989 - 04/10/07 10:38 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: Evil_Eve]
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Ah ha ha, the magic 8 ball was a favorite toy of mine. 
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#212990 - 04/10/07 11:01 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: May]
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I really don't know what you are talking about.
The post you replied to I stated that taking your time to become sexually active can be a wise idea.
What you said makes no sense.
What does proport mean?
What does being a psychic have to do with what I said?
How did you derive that I suggested he was not old enough to use this message board?
Talk about illogical. I should heed the advice under your screen name. Ignoring . . .
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#212991 - 04/10/07 11:33 AM
Re: New Sex Questions
[Re: Discipline]
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The post you replied to I stated that taking your time to become sexually active can be a wise idea.
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What does being a psychic have to do with what I said?
It sounds like a good thing I can't read those posts.  I feel twitchy now.
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#233533 - 04/10/07 10:58 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: gypsy]
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Here's my opinion:
If you know for sure the other person won't accept you having sex with other women, doing it on her back will end up spoiling your relationship in other ways.
Why don't you try to make something different? Explore eachother fantasies, those you can perform together? You may even improve your cumplicity. Be a little crazy.
Plan something strange together.
october1560
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#233841 - 04/12/07 09:19 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Nemo]
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Given the thoughts this gentleman express on the matter, I'd say your advice was perfect.
Still, there's one thing that I would like to add for any singles who might be reading this thread.
Be picky. Don't start a serious relationship with someone unless you know what you want out of it and your partner is willing and able to provide it.
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#233867 - 04/12/07 10:37 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Nemo]
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I think it is shocking that people think that because we are satanists that we may find this acceptable. I truly think and act on faithfulness or monogamy.....whatever it may be. If you are questioning your life with the person your with then you need to sit back and take a look at what your trying to achieve. There are ways to have pleasure with the same person time and time again. Thats the beautiful thing about marriage.
I remember reading sometime ago and posting High Priestess Nadramia wrote and it said, " Dont cheat on your mate, partner, love, or whom ever you share your life with." I agree and in my own words will say this, " CHeaters Suck!!!"
Good luck with your fantasy and you will find the right answers for you in you...and that is all!
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#233868 - 04/12/07 10:37 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: angella]
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#233877 - 04/12/07 10:48 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: angella]
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I truly think and act on faithfulness or monogamy.....whatever it may be. Yes, and whatever that may be to you may be something totally different to another and perfectly acceptable to them.
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#233886 - 04/12/07 11:27 AM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: angella]
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You seem to automatically equate non-monogamy with "cheating". I think it would be more accurate to define "cheating" as playing outside of agreed upon rules.
As a bit of a side note, I've known a number of folks in "open relationships" who later had a change of heart and insisted that their partners revert to monogamy. In their situation, wouldn't that be "cheating"?
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#235036 - 04/13/07 03:36 PM
Re: Sex Questions
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Thats really a hard subject to discuss, because frankly you cannot give straight answers. in my point on view, i would not cheat on my wife (if i had one). Every male has sexual desires.. i'l just hold it and commit myself to my marriage. But if it really gets out of hand, and i really am in an urge... maybe yeah. Lust is a problem. i honestly cannot say anything more about this, as Nemo said, professional help is the best i guess. good luck mate, i hope everything turn out to be good in the end. 
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#235162 - 04/13/07 08:33 PM
Re: Sex Questions
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The urge to spread genetic material and propogate the species is the second strongest primal urge a human being has. I propose that it is the strongest.
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#235286 - 04/14/07 06:39 AM
Re: Sex Questions
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The urge to survive is the strongest. Then why do some people have unprotected sex with mulitple promiscuous partners who they may even know has a high chance of disease? Why do some people cheat with the spouses of violent, unstable individuals who have a track record of injuring people who have wronged him/her? I believe the urge to procreate is so strong it leads many people to commit acts that, while not immediately affecting their survival, seriously diminish their chances of longevity. Maybe this is just a testament to the nature of short-sighted and dim witted individuals or maybe it is a testament to how strong this sexual urge actually is. Maybe, just maybe, the need to procreate IS the ultimate act of survival and, as such, a stronger urge.
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#235378 - 04/14/07 02:38 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Minus]
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I'm wondering if the mechanism behind what drives the urge to procreate is even aware of disease? I think that we have to rely on thinking more than the biological urges to keep us safe.
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#235387 - 04/14/07 03:19 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Minus]
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I believe the urge to procreate is so strong it leads many people to commit acts that, while not immediately affecting their survival, seriously diminish their chances of longevity.
Maybe this is just a testament to the nature of short-sighted and dim witted individuals or maybe it is a testament to how strong this sexual urge actually is.
Maybe, just maybe, the need to procreate IS the ultimate act of survival and, as such, a stronger urge.
As you started to touch on, though, there is a difference between survival and longevity of life. The survival instinct is the stronger, you just used a bad illustration. If a masked gunman barged into your bedroom late at night while you were fucking somebody, it's likely you'd rearrange your immediate priorities. You can't procreate if you're dead. Also, sometimes when discussing instinct, we forget that evolution has also given us reason and critical thinking skills. It's just that those skills are more complex, and evolution hasn't had enough time with us to make them standard equipment.
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#235398 - 04/14/07 05:02 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: RandomStranger]
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You mean something like what Warlock Assabrah has listed as his location?....
"Loc: The head.Not the cock"
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#235401 - 04/14/07 05:23 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Rafiq]
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One thing that people seem to regularly confuse is a man's desire to have sex with multiple partners and a man's dissatisfaction with his current partner. They are generally not one in the same. The urge to spread genetic material and propogate the species is the second strongest primal urge a human being has. Men and women alike need to understand this fact and every relationship needs to address it openly and honestly. Wanting to have sex with other women is not an indicator that your marriage is over or even in trouble. It just means that you are a man.
Masturbation, pornography and role-playing with your significant other are great ways to satisfy your desire and maintain your commitment to each other. I am married and I have never cheated on a partner. Trust and communication are paramount. A lot of women have trouble with this fact and often respond with fear and hostility. They feel that they are inadequate, have done something wrong or that their guy is just a prick.
It most likely is none of those things. The idea of a fairybook marriage where neither spouse has extramarital thoughts is a myth. The deciding factor is what people do with those thoughts that makes the difference. If the relationship is lacking communication or understanding about this subject, chances are that somebody will cheat. A lot of these things are taboo in America, where sex is everywhere and accurate information about sex is not, and so people are blind-sided by such ideas when they enter an intimate relationship.
Talk to your wife about all of it. Tell her about how important she is and your marriage is and about your fears about being unfaithful. Sometimes it might be tough, but if your marriage really is your #1 priority, and you find ways to fulfill your urges with my suggestions above, then you'll make it. Ah, how I wish more people in the world were as common sensical as you guys. I've had to explain to a few girls and pussy-whipped feministy men that masturbation and porn do not mean you are dissatisfied with your mate, that you have a hidden propensity for domestic abuse, or that you are planning on cheating or leaving. I get so tired of females projecting their sexual preferences and biology onto men.
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#235404 - 04/14/07 05:30 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: evildork]
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The survival instinct is the stronger, you just used a bad illustration. I never mentioned instinct. I only spoke of urges. This is what the original poster was talking about. Maybe I am nitpicking but, to me, and urge and an instinct are two completely different things. A person contemplating suicide still has the same primal instinct of survival as the rest of humanity. It is his urge to end his life that will overcome this. And you know what? He will probably want to have sex once more before he kills himself. Hopefully, I cleared my point up a bit.
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#235406 - 04/14/07 05:36 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: Minus]
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Well the urge to fuck comes from the instinct to reproduce, and the urge to dodge a bullet comes from the instinct to survive. Fucking semantics... The point is I'm not wrong. 
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#235411 - 04/14/07 05:46 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: evildork]
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You are definately not wrong! However, neither am I. 
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#235491 - 04/14/07 08:51 PM
Re: Sex Questions
[Re: gypsy]
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I thought it would be fun to use the letters to make a word. I could stop doing that but I am having just way too much fun right now.
;-)
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#235837 - 04/16/07 09:43 AM
Re: Sex Questions
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I've never met a guy, be he swinger or monogomous, who doesn't want to have sex with other girls. Its up to you if you wish to go ahead with it.
Mystery is sometimes the best turn-on, mind. I can imagine, once I actually cheated, feeling rather let down by the experience with the added 'bonus' of having my dear wife approach me with a pair of rusty shears.
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