#215932 - 01/16/07 07:29 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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I haven't considered that. Human beings are mere animals,"Some better, some worse." According to Doc. LaVey. Likewise are the so called Gods, some better than mankind, some worse according to behavior. To be sacred is to be untouched. No human being that I know can say that. Have you ever seen as much as a God or Devil except a human being? No human has ever come from the dead to me and claimed immortality. However, I can see immortality as a possibilty as knowlege increases. As for now, human beings are not sacred. Some better, some worse, none sacred. Thank you for your reply Sir. A real good food for thought. 
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#215934 - 01/16/07 07:53 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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I do Sir. But I do not consider myself a mere human. Within my genetic code is much different. "Note." I said that, " I have never had a human being come from the dead and claimed immortality to me." If I considered myself human within, then I'm no better than any other human. This is not my claim. This is not many other's claimed here on this board, less many are not born Satanist, but human. I can not get into great detail as to say that some are herds here and they do not need to know what we are talking about. If they do? They will mess up everything. You are a wonderful being to speak with, the genitic code is also within you. Either one is born Satanist or human as Doc. LaVey have so often said. You have a wonderful mind Sir, Thanks. 
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"Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than
those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey
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#215937 - 01/16/07 08:07 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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My brother. If one considers themselves a dog, which is a animal, then that one is born human inside and out. If one is born Satanist, then within, one is much more than a dog. But, a mortal God.
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those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey
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#215939 - 01/16/07 08:10 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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So true, he never said humans are Satanist either. What he did say is that humans are animals, some better, some worse.
Oh really?
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"I AM A SATANIST! BOW DOWN, FOR I AM THE HIGHEST EMBODIMENT OF HUMAN LIFE!"
- TSB, 45 (Capitals by Dr. Lavey)
Be careful, Youngwolf, when attempting to paraphrase or quote Satanic literature. Many who dwell here know it well.
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#215943 - 01/16/07 08:27 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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So true, he never said humans are Satanist either
Do me a favor, and get a pen and a piece of paper.
Draw a big circle, and write the word "human" inside.
Now, INSIDE that big circle, draw a smaller circle. Write the word "Satanist" inside it.
Not everything in "human" is in "Satanist", but everything in "Satanist" is also in "human".
Everyone is either born a Satanist, or else born not a Satanist. Some humans are not Satanists. But we are all born human, and remain human.
Make an even bigger circle if you like, to include "human". Call it "animal". See where I'm going with this?
What faculty is your university's "Sacred Literature" department attached to? Either Humanities or Social Science, I assume?
Edited by reprobate (01/16/07 08:28 PM)
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#215948 - 01/16/07 09:23 PM
Human / Animal / God
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"Human/animal/God," all one in the same interms of behavior. Thanks.
Have you read Das Tierdrama in The Satanic Rituals?
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#215949 - 01/16/07 09:24 PM
Menschliches, Allzumenschliches?
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But we are all born human, and remain human.
More or less 
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#215951 - 01/16/07 09:45 PM
A Degree in Sacred Literature?
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Q. What do you say to the person with a degree in Sacred Literature when they knock on your door?
A. Thanks for the pizza. Keep the change.
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#215952 - 01/16/07 09:45 PM
Re: Menschliches, Allzumenschliches?
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What a sterile world that would be. I have stories that get better every time I tell them...that's my mythology.
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#215953 - 01/16/07 09:48 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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That's it Random Stranger!!!! Ok all you academics let's gang up on him!!!!! Oh wait. We're internet geeks. never mind... 
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#215954 - 01/16/07 09:53 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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As Richard Nixon would have said, "I am not a geek." 
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#215955 - 01/16/07 11:24 PM
Re: Menschliches, Allzumenschliches?
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I am a bit of a transhumanist. At least my opinions and attitudes fall under that label. However, I agree that mythology, passion, and emotions are enjoyable and amazing qualities of human life. I doubt human beings will ever remove such traits or even truly desire too no matter how enhanced we become.
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#215956 - 01/17/07 02:53 PM
Re: Menschliches, Allzumenschliches?
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I doubt human beings will ever remove such traits or even truly desire too no matter how enhanced we become.
Time will tell.
The trick is stick around long enough to find out.
I know that my own views and values have altered with the more experiences I have accumulated.
I expect that shall continue.
But time will tell.
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#215966 - 01/17/07 08:54 PM
Re: A Degree in Sacred Literature?
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Thanks. I heard that joke from an ethnomusicologist and it seems to work in a number of different situations.
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#215969 - 01/18/07 02:07 AM
Re: Menschliches, Allzumenschliches?
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Very true. I just would like to keep those traits, from at least the opinion I currently have. But I plan to stick around.
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"At last I shall have time to devote myself seriously and freely to the destruction of all my former opinions." ~Descartes
“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool.” ~Richard Feynman
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#215970 - 01/18/07 02:14 PM
Re: A Degree in Sacred Literature?
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Now on a more serious note:
That joke was usually attributed to students of philosophy, litterature - or any of humanities - the more abstract the better.
However, while Sacred Literature isn't what you expected it to be, you can benefit from the knowledge you gain in many ways - starting from fact that vast majority of people surrounding you do take those scriptures to be true, and knowing the schemes of their beliefs and usual results of them actually gives you ability to manipulate them to benefit your aim, once you're past the original frustration.
You never need to work in that field in case you don't want to. Qualify for something else, take a job you'll learn along the way, put all your abilities and effort in it and you will likely succeed.
The only one who can limit you in any way is yourself.
Don't.
Despite the zillion convincing arguments you can find.
Good luck !
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If there were a verb meaning "to believe falsely," it would not have any significant first person, present indicative. - Ludwig Wittgenstein
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#215971 - 01/18/07 03:31 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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Here's the deal. We will have a room full of tables with whipped cream pies. Academics on one side of the room, intelligentsia on the other side, everyone else on another side.
On the count of three, let the pie throwing begin!
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#215972 - 01/19/07 03:13 PM
Re: A Degree of Sacred Literature.
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I would imagine there are a number of things you are exposed to, in earning the degree, that can be used in a variety of ways. You would have learned to research subjects. You can take that and delve into any subject you choose. I assume you have taken some counseling courses. Even if you are not going into professional counseling, that can teach you how to deal with all manner of people. You have most likely prepared, and given, sermons. That is good practice in public speaking. You can't imagine the people who are held behind because they are unable to express an idea intelligently, or look someone in the eye. I know very few people who are, after a certain age, still in the field they had originally been degreed in. Hell...even if you decide a labor, or service job fits you better, having three degrees under your belt will allow you to have stimulating conversations with a large assortment of people...or so I'm told.
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