I have had a situation in my life where I was with my fiance' and I was happy. I was with her when I discovered my Satanic nature with the doctor's philosophy. She loves to party all the time, smoke weed, have sex every other night; not really worrying about the world around her and how she needs to get a good job, get good pay, get medical bills, you know... move on up in the work force and life. I have the desire to do so, and am not very focused on partying as much because I need money so I can move out and get an apartment and eventually focus on something better like hot cars, big houses, inground pool things like that. I basically waited on her hand and foot because I loved her like a husband would his wife. She never gave me the same consideration back and put even her roommate's dog before me because she saw that dog as "her baby" and I expected the consideration until I read the Satanic Sins. I treated her the way she treated me, and eventually, it got worse and worse. She left me for my ex friend because I was "yelling at her all the time" and she slowly lost love for me since the mid-term of our 1 1/2 year relationship. My question is: What could I have done differently? I do what I believe in but at the same time, it was like I fought fire with fire and instead of extinguishing, I created more fire. We didn't have a very good communication because we both said to each other that niether one of us would listen. This really isn't personal for me because it's in the past, but I want to know which one of us were in the wrong so I could learn from any mistakes that I must have made. If I am not in the wrong, then why learn from "mistakes" when they are justified according to the situation? I would like to have your opinions, thank you.

It sounds like you wanted completely different things, so you weren't right for each other. No one was right or wrong.

You should know what you want before you get into a relationship and only get into it if you can achieve these things. Do not get into a relationship and try and mould the other party into what you want, that is just silly.

No one can answer this question better than you can though, I was not there, only you know the details.

What could you have done differently? Left earlier and/ or taken the chapter in the Satanic Bible on Psychic Vampires to heart sooner.

Why do you think you made a mistake?

DING DING DING warning bells go off! I know you heard them! (Nothing wrong with the sex part though)



Good for you! Go out and get em!



Love can be 'blind' and We oft times deceive ourselves in thinking love is love when it is actually 'self deceit'.



Good! Let HIM keep her!



Nothing. If she's a pot head loser and you aren't? NOTHING. The only thing you could do was leave. Luckily she solved that problem for you by leaving herself.



Did you? Or did she flame the fires by her behavior which, at this point became unacceptable to you?



Come now. It isn't? No it IS VERY PERSONAL otherwise, you wouldn't be asking about it here.



Let's see. She was a druggie, she had no goals, she left you for your friend. I'm not letting you off the hook mind you as everyone knows there are always TWO sides to every coin, however, if she IS as you have painted her, I don't think you should even have to ask this question.




Mistakes are NEVER justified. They are called 'mistakes' and it IS very important to not only learn from them, but to not repeat them.

There you have it for what it's worth, or not worth. My opinion.

Sounds like you had a girl who thought her pussy was enough payment for your generosity. I suppose I don't need to State the obvious about that X of yours.
I think you just have to decide what kind of relationship you want to have or "tolerate". If she treats you lame and you treat her lame in return than I would hope you enjoyed being treated that way, if not than end the relationship. It’s not difficult to make a girl want to stay just by making sure she knows at anytime she could be history. But this is about what you want. So do what you do.

Just make sure it or “she” is worth doing.

People have this strange habit of trying to make terrible relationships work.

If you took a drink of milk and it was sour, would you continue to drink it simply because you love milk?

Go out and get a new jug.

Could you possibly be any more CRASS in your responses?

crass /kræs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kras] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective, -er, -est. 1. without refinement, delicacy, or sensitivity; gross; obtuse; stupid: crass commercialism; a crass misrepresentation of the facts.
2. Archaic. thick; coarse.


crass (krās) Pronunciation Key
adj. crass·er, crass·est
So crude and unrefined as to be lacking in discrimination and sensibility.

First off, you really need to change your user name - your using LordofDarkness is simply insulting to all the real LordsofDarkness out there. I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate you sullying the title.

Secondly:

Listen and Learn.

You may not be trying but you always make Me smile!

crass [krӕs] adjective

very obvious or very great

I suppose I could

Knock yourself out....

You coulda left. Why didn't you? Why'd you stick around to "fight fire with fire" when you could have evacuated the burning building?

"Treat others like they treat you" doesn't mean "hang around while they treat you bad, so you have an excuse to treat them bad back". It means, don't take their shit. You took her shit and then served her up some of your own. Sounds like a big ol' waste of a chunk of life you'll never get back.

You said it all. The sooner the better.
There nothing as painful as a slow indigestion.

october1560

My Father once told Me.....

"It's better to have a nice clean break than a long slow bend".

When I was younger I never thought I would admit this but: My Dad is a pretty smart fella'.

What could you have done differently? The moment you realized that you weren't getting as much out of the relationship as you were putting in, rather than treating her the same as she was treating you to "give her a taste of her own medicine", you could have done something a bit more productive for yourself. Thinking, "She treats me like shit, so I'll just treat her like shit too," only produces a relationship where two people treat each other like shit. Who would ever want that? Instead, I would have either just politely said goodbye then and there (politely to avoid the ol' "Hell hath no furry...") and sought out something more suited for me, or, if I felt she was worth it and capable of change, I'd sit her down and seriously tell her my greivances. If she took it to heart and showed improvement, I'd evaluate the situation again and see if the relationship was becoming something good.

Here are some tips for next time:

If you "fall in love" again, be honest with yourself and find out if you are in love with the girl you are with, or just the idea of having a girl to be with. There is a difference. If you love her, have some good reasons why.

If you are looking for a serious relationship that will work, avoid party girls.

No matter what you are looking for, avoid girls (and people in general) who are into illegal activities. Inviting them into your life is asking for trouble, and you'll eventually get what you deserve for being stupid enuogh to associate with them.

You shouldn't have to ask for, demand, beg, etc. for consideration and attention in a relationship. If they aren't interested enough, nor care enough to do that on their own, find someone who is.

Love is wonderful, but don't let it blind you.

Why are you so determined to find an answer to something you hold no personal interest towards?

DING DING DING
ATTENTION WHORE

It sounded like her true colors showed in the end. Be grateful you got out of it before you ever got legally hitched. It could have been a lot worse. Long-term relationships get harder to end the longer you've been in them, but trying to end a legal marriage brings in a slew of other headaches.

On one hand, there are lots of people that don't realize relationships need work at times, but then there are situations where, to quote the old expression, "you can't polish a turd".

No not you....
I am talking about the guy who posted this.
Why else would he want advice for something he doesn’t care about anymore?

However for you to assume I am calling "you" names would put you in a similar category

Fair enough. I don't know that he's an attention whore, I think he's just confused. Happens sometimes...

Well confused sure, I suppose I could acquire a tad more sympathy occasionally.
I probably also overlooked the fact that he’s probably fairly young.
Though the only advice I can honestly give is the advice my old man gave me, “prior to the mentors” believe it or not.

Find her Feel her Fuck her FORGET HER!!!

Or a pair of new jugs, as the case may be!

Anyway, what can you do differently in the future:

1) Just say no to people who do drugs. Period
2) Just say no to people who are promiscuous, that is, who have unprotected, irresponsible, impulsive sex, and whose sex life gives them more trouble than joy.
3) Just say no to anyone who lists among their hobbies, 'partying.'
4) Observe the kind of competencies a person has. If you give them a task, do they complete it well, and on time? Is the person good at their job, and/or at school? If they make a mess, do they clean it up and take responsibility for it, or do they bitch, blame, and then repeat the mistake?
5) Note if the person shows consideration for your feelings and thoughts. Do they talk a lot, but blow you off when it's your turn to speak? Do they whine when you criticize them, but pounce at the chance to roll their eyes or yell at you?
6) Ask yourself, are they bottomless pits that greedily absorb everything you give them? Do they keep an unnervingly close tab of who owes whom, so they can use it for leverage in a fight or guilt trip? Do you feel that what you put in is what you're getting out?
7) See if a potential mate has a Myspace account. If they do, subtract 1 point from their overall score. If it's ugly or garish--for example, if the background is too busy, or you can't read the text for any reason--subtract 5 points. For every stupid quote, smug reference to drug use or wild partying, unfunny catchphrase, or typo, subtract 2 points. For every photo that is very likely to get them fired from a future job, subtract 1 point. For every friend they obviously don't know, subtract 2 points. If the number of their friends is greater than 30, subtract 10 points. Look at the pages of their top 10 friends, use this point system on their pages, and add those scores to the overall one.

what you said is very true. i am just now entering the separation stage of divorce. I too was trying to make a poor relationship work in the worst way. Then Dr. LaVey's ideas and truth were also a catalyst in making me realize that I need to make me happy first. It is still a very hurtful situation, but we are trying to remain good friends and make the divorce as amicable as can be. It's hard when you take the red pill and find some of the things you held dear are just illusion. But, I can tell you that beyond the fog are wondrous things. Beautiful people, beautiful time exist now that your eyes are open. Lean on the words of the Dr. they will show you the way.

IM me anytime if you want to talk

It could possibly be their own compulsion to display dominance.

You lost me.

Your Satanic nature needs some work

The fourth Satanic Statement:

Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!


The eigth Satanic Rule of the Earth:

Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

Could you have done something differently?
Most certainly you could have. Any number of things.
Would the result have been any different?
Well, could you have changed who you are in order to make yourself meet her needs? Or, could you have been able to change her to meet yours?
Perhaps if you did either of those things, you may have been 'happily ever after' haha.
You neither did anything 'wrong'. So you were 'wrong' for each other, thankfully you didn't go so far as marriage and have all that to detangle!
You are obviously hung up on it still if the question still bothers you. You must still have some sort of guilt. How can you truly celebrate yourself if you're still hanging on to guilt?
You don't need to be right or wrong to learn something from a situation. Even the person in the 'right' learns something when there is a 'right-wrong'.

It took me a while.
That's probably the reason why I have gone this fast.

october1560

Thank you all for your help and kindness, I greatly appreciated it.



Yes, I'm 20 as of now



Surely they wouldn't appreciate it because to them it is a good title. However like all titles, a title has no value in itself and only varifies a rank, accomplishments, or any relation thereof. But in any case, I have no concern for not purposely insulting any 'real' Lords of Darkness. If a 'real' Lord of Darkness is concerned if I use the title and gets offended by such action, then he isn't a real Lord Of Darkness. It would mean that I am more worthy because I am focusing on myself and gaining pride. And as such, Since I have such a high order of a title and other adults use the title and act like children, then I wouldn't care because if anyone els views me the way they view the adult as of being a child, like the christians view teen dabblers who do ritual killings and us LaVeyan Satanists as the same, then I would be greater than them because of their immature judgment. The whole solution to this is: A true Lord of Darkness would see the world, people, and everything revolve around him. Nothing would be greater than him. Hence - LaVey stated that we are our own gods. To my understanding, there is nothing above a god that you've made. Therefore, if you want to take into terms that a Lord of Darkness as in reality he would be a Satanist. So, a Lord of Darkness ultimately is a Satanist. Now let's take my words into perspective. If you trully are offended by me because I claimed the title and realizing that I am a satanist, then that would make me more of a Satanist because of my lack of sympathy and concern for your wellbeing. I cannot tell if you are offended or you may be just boasting pride so I will say that if it is so that you are just boasting pride, then boast it elswhere. I asked for opinions on the situation I had and not insults on my username. So I believe that if you have any further insults, then it just makes you less of a Satanist simply because you give so much shit that you HAVE to post one. I doubt that after this post that I would be sullying the title since I explained that I don't give a rat's ass whether or not your offended. On second thought, I'll let you insult me more and more, because then that means that I could just laugh at your face for your immaturity to bend over backwards just for little ol' me having a username called; 'Lord Of Darkness'. Now that I have fulfilled the fourth Satanic Statement by showing kindness ONLY to those who deserve it as indicated at the top of this post, I have just revealed that you didn't show kindness to me and I didn't deserve it which in turn, you committed the top Satanic sin of stupidity for downgrading me for no good reason and getting offended and insulting me all because I have a username known as Lord Of Darkness. It is better to respect me from now on. I won't disrespect unless you insult me and at this point, you have and I suggest that you listen to your mother and shut the hell up if you don't have anything nice to say. If you think that I am still grieving over that bitch you outta be misundertsanding my whole pitch here. Simply asking for the opinions of others and wondered what I could have done is an entirely different concept than crying my eyes out like a retard. Although from your stand point and how high your pride seems to be, I could see why you thought I was doing it. It seems that the first satanic sin dropped on your ass again. I think alot more than usual people so that is why I brought up this topic in the first place - - to ask for everyone's opinion. Now that I have it, thank you anyways...

And as such, Since I have such a high order of a title and other adults use the title and act like children, then I wouldn't care because if anyone els views me the way they view the adult as of being a child, like the christians view teen dabblers who do ritual killings and us LaVeyan Satanists as the same, then I would be greater than them because of their immature judgment.

You win the award for, "most poorly constructed sentence ever."



...it's good to be back...

You got a mouse in your pocket? Who is this 'Us' that you speak of?

Drimly......always loved ya. Still do.

Nice to see you again, Sir!

I recall one of the tips in LaVey's essay "How to Be God (Or the Devil)" being to the effect of needing to have a sense of humor. The tip after that one was to harbour some doubt, even about yourself.

What a cogent and inspiring mantra.


Sounds like the cheap and devoid spewing of your typical angst-ridden teenager. Honestly.

She "sinned". She should have stopped at the point where she started hurting your feelings in behalf or her. I defend the ultimate seizing of the day, but up to the point where one starts to hurt the ones one care and love.
It's a choice we are giving. Either one goes solo and parties all day or get together with a companion and needs to learn to understand the word: twosome.
I'm married. I know that are things she likes that I don't and vice-versa, but a life of 2 only works when you give up part of you and so does she. An hexagon doesn't fit on a square hole, but if the hexagon turns into a sphere and the square goes round, then they fit. That is life at two. You give, she gives. You get, she gets.

The other problem is that when one thinks that the companion is assured, one get's careless. Never make the impression that you are assured. Provoke jealousy on Monday and offer her flowers on Tuesday

My advice is: move on! You should never put yourself down or be submissive to conquer a woman's love. She has to love you for what you are and so should you. Raise your self-esteem and advance.

You, me, and presumably every Satanist here.



Welcome back. Regardless if I win such an 'award', I assume that you got the point. I try to be informative when I explain. Please varify what mistake I have done in the sentence. Maybe a comma here and there during my explaination. Oh well, I'm no genius when it comes to grammar but I'm decent enough.

Don't include Me in your list thank you very much. There is no "US".

Fair enough... I wasn't meaning it as an insult in case you took it that way.

Highly doubtful.

There is only one Satanism. End of story.

I am closing this topic now and would like to thank all of you for your help.