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#238743 - 04/26/07 11:03 AM Re: One more time. [Re: ]
Nemo Offline
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There is indeed no confusion on the issue, but i was trying to suggest that there was printed example of how confusion may have been been possible. Thank you.


Only for those who will take things out of context.

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#238744 - 04/26/07 11:09 AM Not so. [Re: ]
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Loc: Point Nemo s48:52:31:748, w123...
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...to educate oneself on the finer points of Satanism...


However this is not one of "the finer points of Satanism".

This is one of the most obvious and repeated fundamentals of Satanism.

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#238745 - 04/26/07 11:16 AM Re: Satan doesn't exist. Probably. [Re: ]
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Practice and Belief are two seperate things, you do not practice a belief.

If one were to believe what is written in the Bible, they would be a Christian, regardless of whether they followed the rules it sets out or not!

If they were to not follow the rules they would be a poor Christian, but still a Christian.

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#238749 - 04/26/07 11:25 AM Re: other "finer points" [Re: Nemo]
Nemo Offline
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In your introduction you wrote:

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I discovered Satanism a number of years ago, and have read the Satanic Bible innumerable times. Some of it was already familiar (i have also read Nietzche and Ayn Rand, plus literature from Ragnar Redbeard) but it's core philosophy was one that i found i was already practicing. It was me, it was what i was already doing. By points both humerous, sad, touching and apathetic, i found myself in agreement with it's core philosophy.


I finally noticed your last words "core philosophy".

Perhaps it is time for you to spell out what elements of Satanism you do not consider part of "it's core philosophy".

That may clear things up here.

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#238763 - 04/26/07 12:53 PM Re: other "finer points" [Re: ]
Nemo Offline
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No one needs to practice Greater Magic to subscribe to Satanism any more than any one needs to wear a Baphomet or black.

However this seems to not be the issue here.

There are four books in The Satanic Bible. I do not recall reading anywhere that one of these is considered "core" and the others are somehow lesser.

How did you come to assume that?

What if, instead, each is required and in the order given to build a full understanding of what Satanism is?

Just a suggestion.

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#238800 - 04/26/07 05:38 PM Re: Satan doesn't exist. Probably. [Re: ]
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I will be the judge if I need to be suspicious. If you can't handle the heat in the kitchen, you are welcome to step out.

As I stated, we have seen plenty of this before. Its been hashed and rehashed, over and over. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck......If you can't understand that, it falls on you.

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#238816 - 04/26/07 06:09 PM No. [Re: ]
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Thank you. If one was to take both this advice and the advice given about the other books, one could read all of them, and then chose to excise the elements of the ritual chapters as he see fit providing that the rest of the philosophy was adhered to in able to balance the entirety of what is being practiced.


I did not say you could excise anything from this religion.

I said you did not have to personally use Greater Magic.

I did not say you could deny Greater Magic is a part of Satanism for those who do wish to employ it.

Whether you can accept Greater Magic is real or useful in your own opinion is your problem.

"Squibs" and "Muggles" are welcome here too. ;\)

That Greater Magic remains a part of this religion as a more sophisticated tool along with all the other tools that comprise Satanism is a fact.

If that tool is not one you wish to employ that is just fine.

However it is part of the toolkit, like it or not.

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#238916 - 04/27/07 10:29 AM Re: No. [Re: Nemo]
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"Squibs" and "Muggles" are welcome here too.


But they will never be as ELITE as US!!! Mohahhahaha!

Hah…ahm… yeah..

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#238933 - 04/27/07 11:21 AM Re: Satan doesn't exist. Probably. [Re: ]
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Always looking for a loophole. \:>
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#239038 - 04/27/07 08:29 PM Re: No. [Re: ]
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If you deny greater magic you reject Satanism.

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i respect but do not choose to practice the ritual side of what Anton LaVey put forth


Respect it? Do you acknowledge it as part of Satanism?

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one could read all of them, and then chose to excise the elements of the ritual chapters as he see fit providing that the rest of the philosophy was adhered to


Without ceremony and dogma it's just a philosophy.
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#239134 - 04/28/07 10:07 AM Re: LaVey & Ayn Rand [Re: Sir_Trojan]
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"Here you will find truth-and fantasy. Each is necessary for the other to exist; but each must be recognized for what it is"- Anton Lavey; Preface to the Satanic Bible

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