An important thing to keep in mind (at least from my point of view) this that National Socialism is still a political movement.

Who cares what the goals are; who cares what the group is for or against.

Politics are politics.

As is the Taliban. But who cares? Right?

Stupidity is what it is, regardless of the ideology behind it.

I was trying to remember which book the thing that you are thinking of was written in. Thank you.

Agreed.

Yeah, what Svengali said.

Stupidity comes in all colours; Satanism discriminates based on actual ability, and how one lives in the real world, not what colour your skin is or where you were born.

My wife brought up a point. Is it possible to belong to such an organization without the assumption that laws are broken? To be frank, I am too unfamiliar with such things to know the answer. It may be a moot point, as it appears that interest in us has been lost.

Well, people who choose to join these organizations do so based upon an agreement of philosophical perspective and a need to participate in something bigger than themselves - perhaps for the feeling of empowerment they, themselves, may lack. The neonazi is not a solitary creature. It needs the comfort of others of its own kind.

My point is that each of these people certainly didn't formulate nazi ideals or thinking of their own accord - they've taken on a label of a group that has a set precedent of provable atrocities. So what does that say about such people? You cannot rationalize away the stink of that sort of garbage. No matter how much rigmarole you wrap it up in. It is what it is.

In short, roho, don't waste your time trying to analyze this one. What's in it for you?

You know what...I want to thank you for that reminder.
I am constantly having to remind myself to follow my own advice, and follow my instincts.

Of course, many of the people that call themselves Nazis these days don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to national socialism. Their Nazism is "Yeah, well I'm white, so I guess that makes me Aryan, and aren't they supposed to be the master race? I like swastikas because they piss people off, and oh yeah, aren't my tattoos cool?"

Ha! Could it be more pathetic? I wish these people HAD been alive in Germany during the Nazi regime. They would have received an extremely harsh introduction to reality.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/grace35

Hey Volker, before joining us checkout these recent pictures of me. This is the kind of person you'll be associating with (amongst others)...

In other words, you are a follower of a totalitarian ideology with a severely distorted perception of reality. However, I doubt that you have properly researched the political movement connected with the denomination you have chosen.

The style and attitude of Nazi Germany is very attractive. Their will to put their thoughts into action towards the end of lifting their people out of struggle was admirable. They had a plan and did what was necessary to reach their goals. Though I disagree with some of the ideology of the Nazi mission, I think there is much to be learned from them.

There is much to learn from anything, but the mimicry engaged in by many a modern Nazi (and that is what this is about) amounts to little more than fantasizing and play-act martyrdom (in the form of public marches), at best; at worst they engage in terrorism and genral purpose shit disturbing. I rarely see any learning or original thought coming from indiviuals in these groups. I imagine there may be some who are capable of learning and original thought, but those individuals no doubt prefer to remain silent and unseen. No doubt for similar reasons many Satanists prefer "silent running".

HA! I can just see Adolf Hitler hitting on that maid.