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satanic ritual question #278866
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Hi all,

After reading The Satanic Bible, and the ritual, the Black Mass, I thought how complicated the mass was and how many folks in this forum have completed the ritual?

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Re: satanic ritual question [Re: Moon Shadow] #278867
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 Originally Posted By: Moon Shadow
I thought how complicated the mass was and how many folks in this forum have completed the ritual?


What, exactly, is your question?


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Hi,
My question is do members here have difficulty performing the black mass. Do they find the ceremony too complex?


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I can only speak for myself. I have performed such a ceremony, without difficulty.

What do you find complex about it? Anything in particular that is befuddling you?


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Reading' of The Book of Leviathan, and the Enochian keys appropriate for each type of ritual is OK afterall! I wondered how the practioner could remember all this!
I do have other questions:
I must say that I was upset that the curse or destruction of a person is really accepted. 'Be certain that you do NOT care if the intended victim lives or dies, before you throw your curse, and having caused their destruction, revel, rather than feel remorse.'
LaVey further states 'Head well these rules- or in each case, you will see a reversal of your desires, which will harm, rather than help you.' My question here is 'Isn't this Karma?'

Thanks,
Moon Shadow


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Cause & effect, on the other hand, like the effect of things going wrong because your heart wasn't in it in the first place, is human nature.

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Re: satanic ritual question [Re: Moon Shadow] #279037
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 Originally Posted By: Moon Shadow

Reading' of The Book of Leviathan, and the Enochian keys appropriate for each type of ritual is OK afterall! I wondered how the practioner could remember all this!


It is acceptable to read from the book during ritual.

It is also possible to memorize that much and more.

Stage actors routinely remember much more dialogue than is contained in a Satanic Ritual.


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