#291808 - 12/19/07 03:18 AM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: Unknown]
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I applaud what you have written. Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it. i had a hateful childhood, and I blamed the adults around me. Well, when I turned 18, I decided I was going to check out everything the adults told me not to do. Drugs and alcohol were a part of that. Experimenting taught me very valuable lessons, as an adult and more importantly as a Satanist those things dont really make life any better, sure theyre fun at the time, but drugs are thieves who you tell to steal from yourself. It just dosent make sense. Alcohol is the same, except worse. So I totally understand what your saying, but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing. Kowing what I know now from eperimenting, im like you, completely drug free. So I agree with what your saying, I just feel differently about how realisticly people can come to that conclusion.
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#291823 - 12/19/07 05:49 AM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: drewcifer9]
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I applaud what you have written. Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it. i had a hateful childhood, and I blamed the adults around me. Well, when I turned 18, I decided I was going to check out everything the adults told me not to do. Drugs and alcohol were a part of that. Experimenting taught me very valuable lessons, as an adult and more importantly as a Satanist those things dont really make life any better, sure theyre fun at the time, but drugs are thieves who you tell to steal from yourself. It just dosent make sense. Alcohol is the same, except worse. So I totally understand what your saying, but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing. Kowing what I know now from eperimenting, im like you, completely drug free. So I agree with what your saying, I just feel differently about how realisticly people can come to that conclusion. I disagree. One can easily see the trash that walks most streets. Be it the drunk, or drug addict, they are there like caged animals in a zoo. I have used them often to show our kids the dangers of compulsion. *EDIT: If the adults had warned you about Russian Roulette, would you want to play that too? 
Edited by Tier Instinct (12/19/07 05:54 AM)
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#291838 - 12/19/07 07:27 AM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: SueW]
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They are very smart kids. The point that I want to make is, I doubt that they will want to experiment with drugs or anything illegal! Not because I have told them not to, but because I have shown them what to expect if they do.
The oldest will question me when I turn right on red.
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“Love is one of the most intense feelings felt by man; another is hate. Forcing yourself to feel indiscriminate love is very unnatural. If you try to love everyone you only lessen your feelings for those who deserve your love. Repressed hatred can lead to many physical and emotional aliments. By learning to release your hatred towards those who deserve it, you cleanse yourself of these malignant emotions and need not take your pent-up hatred out on your loved ones.” Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible
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#291845 - 12/19/07 08:06 AM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: Unknown]
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Registered: 03/10/05
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“Let the dead be with the dead”. There are occasions when I will remember something written in the Christian Bible, and find it interesting that there were times when the writers almost got it. Before I read this post, I was remembering this quote, from Jesus: “Let the dead bury the dead”. The reason I was thinking about that quote is that we just found out that my brother-in-law has esophageal cancer. I realize that many people contract this disease without doing anything to ask for it. However, the fact that there is a good chance that he will die has presented some issues that are brought about by a family that has never learned to take responsibility for their actions.
There have been many threads on this board concerning the issue of Satanists being married to those who are not Satanists. I have stated my position and experience in this matter quite unapologetically. Because I choose to stay with someone who I love very deeply, who is not a Satanist, there are times when marital compromise dictates that I will pay the price for my wife’s sense of compassion. She knows my thoughts on these matters. Let the dead bury their own dead. In other words, it is not our duty to bail my wife’s family out. They have made no arrangements for caring for my brother-in-law’s son.
I think my point is that I am experiencing the issues that you are writing about here, along with living with the experience that we have brought up in other threads. Let me make clear that I do not regret my decision to marry my wife. I can also state, in no uncertain terms, that every relationship has its issues. My personal decision is, and always has been, not to force my wife to do, or not to do, things that are against her nature. Personally, I would decide if another family home was not found to be capable of raising this child, to take him in. What I would not do is take any measures to assure the financial stability and well being of the adults who refuse to take responsibility for them.
This is a timely post, Unknown...thank you for writing it. The topic is elementary Satanism; but it is well to be reminded. May we all have an indulgent season.
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#291901 - 12/19/07 01:20 PM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: Lust]
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One can easily see the trash that walks most streets. Be it the drunk, or drug addict, they are there like caged animals in a zoo. I have used them often to show our kids the dangers of compulsion. This is genius. Something I will surely place in my list of 'things to do' as a parent for when and if that day ever arrives. Thank you for sharing this. This is one of my biggest complaints with sheltered parenting. People hide their kids from the dangers of the world so much that when life finally happens to them they are left mentally defenseless and unaware of the right decisions to make. I have heard plenty of drug addicts make convincing speeches for the benefits of drug use so in some ways I actually feel a little bit sorry for some of these kids. I knew a girl in highschool who had an overbearing christian father who was a well respected educator and philanthropist in the community. They had a 'don't talk about bad things, talk about jesus' policy in their home. At about 16 she ended up rebelling against her father and her family upbringing and taking alot of different drugs and having alot of sex. She contracted an STD and before she wised up and although she has her head on her shoulders now it's too late and she has to deal with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life. It's a case of typical teenage rebellion that got blown out of proportion by repressive christian parenting. My philosophy is tell the truth, about everything. Kids are always old enough to understand the true answer to a question that they have.
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#291963 - 12/19/07 05:26 PM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: drewcifer9]
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Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it. but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing. Sure you can, Pancho. Assholes that experiment with this and that drug have provided the medical community with plenty of human trial runs and the results are ugly enough for me to conclude that narcotics ain't healthy. And I've never jumped from a tall building to experience the act of hitting the ground first hand, either. I'm content to let physicists tell me that it would probably hurt, just as I'm content to allow medical doctors to tell me that filling my body full of harmful shit isn't such a good idea. Not every thing under the sun requires experimentation to know that it's just fucked up and plain ol' stupid. Besides, it's illegal, so testing is out of the question, and it's quite all right to throw mud at guinea pigs.
Edited by Poetaster (12/19/07 05:29 PM)
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- Sam Harris
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#291973 - 12/19/07 06:07 PM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: Max Rose]
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"This is genius. Something I will surely place in my list of 'things to do' as a parent for when and if that day ever arrives. Thank you for sharing this." You are welcome. Thank you for the kind words too. "I have heard plenty of drug addicts make convincing speeches for the benefits of drug use so in some ways I actually feel a little bit sorry for some of these kids." Not me. "I knew a girl in highschool who had an overbearing christian father who was a well respected educator and philanthropist in the community. They had a 'don't talk about bad things, talk about jesus' policy in their home. At about 16 she ended up rebelling against her father and her family upbringing and taking alot of different drugs and having alot of sex. She contracted an STD and before she wised up and although she has her head on her shoulders now it's too late and she has to deal with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life. It's a case of typical teenage rebellion that got blown out of proportion by repressive christian parenting." Thats funny! There is always a funny story when you hear "I knew this preachers daughter". "My philosophy is tell the truth, about everything. Kids are always old enough to understand the true answer to a question that they have." But what about Satan...I mean Santa Claus? 
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“Love is one of the most intense feelings felt by man; another is hate. Forcing yourself to feel indiscriminate love is very unnatural. If you try to love everyone you only lessen your feelings for those who deserve your love. Repressed hatred can lead to many physical and emotional aliments. By learning to release your hatred towards those who deserve it, you cleanse yourself of these malignant emotions and need not take your pent-up hatred out on your loved ones.” Anton Szandor LaVey, The Satanic Bible
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#291976 - 12/19/07 06:27 PM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: Poetaster]
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A smart person learns from their own mistakes, while a wise one learns from others' mistakes.
Therefore, I do not need to experience everything, because some have been nice enough to experience certain things for me.
So, I don't have to stick a fork in the toaster.
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#291979 - 12/19/07 06:45 PM
Re: Experience Everything!
[Re: TrojZyr]
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So, I don't have to stick a fork in the toaster. You don't have to. But you know you want to. That smug little toaster, sitting there in the kitchen, mocking you for your cowardice. Go on, show it who's boss!  -Chess
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