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#291782 - 12/19/07 12:37 AM Experience Everything!
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Life is the great indulgence-death the great abstinence. Therefore make the most of life- HERE AND NOW!

Anton LaVey.


One thing I enjoy most about Satanism is that it is a NOW philosophy.


It is NOT a philosophy of procrastination, laziness, or just plain idleness. Satanism is about ACTION in your everyday LIFE! "HERE AND NOW", NOT tomorrow or a week from now. HERE AND NOW you will create your life time habits. "HERE AND NOW" you will make choices that will bring about the results for the rest of your LIFE!



It has been said that Satanists are born and NOT made. This can be proven with a simple test. Just open your eyes and see the mass population that surrounds you. You will see those in their youth creating LIFE long habits that will be with them for the rest of their lives! Mindless drinking, smoking, or any other self-destructive habitual activity you can think of. Most studies have proven that natural habitual actions are created in about thirty days. This is WITHOUT the chemical addiction most people find in such products such as nicotine. How many teenagers do you see smoking cigarettes? How many idiots did you hear talking about getting drunk in high school at parties or even at college? Self destruction is not only popular but "cool". Let the dead be with the dead!



The questions I have always asked my self growing up are what am I doing to make MY LIFE better? What mediocrity must be severed from my personal life and where can success be put into place? Bad habits of the old must be destroyed or THEY WILL DESTROY YOU! Life is the great experience! Take ownership of it HERE AND NOW! Procrastination is for the weak and insecure. Laziness is for the sleeping zombies.

The herd is incapable of solving issues on their own because they FEAR taking control of their own lives.

How many herd animals come to this forum daily asking if they are a Satanist without even having the common sense to read THE SATANIC BIBLE? Or how many IDIOTS come here trying to PRETEND without ever being capable of producing ANY RESULTS in their own personal lives? They seek their answers not with their own two eyes but expect someone else to do the WORK for them! They ask silly ass questions that are of no IMPORTANCE, hoping for some form of entertainment or distraction to keep their eyes off of the world in which they sleep in!

The SATANIST is not only bright eyed and bushy tailed for LIFE but understands one very IMPORTANT thing ; Stratification exists with or without your approval! Move forward in LIFE or be crushed. Be strong or be weak! Those who seek mercy from LIFE for their stupidity will find none. For some odd reason the human race is attracted to suffering a long life and then dying off.
Anton LaVey touched upon a very profound topic when it came to INDULGENCE VS COMPULSION. He knew the masses where never able to take in LIFE as it is but would COMPULSIVELY seek out their own demise. The SATANIST is in CONTROL and understands what beauty INDULGENCE truly is. The WORLD holds so many pleasures that for the SATANIST not only being ALIVE is well and good but being in CONTROL while you are ALIVE is truly a worthwhile pleasure.

Those who are asleep may never wake up.

Those who are awake must never go to sleep.


HS!


Edited by Unknown (12/19/07 12:43 AM)
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#291808 - 12/19/07 03:18 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Unknown]
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I applaud what you have written. Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it. i had a hateful childhood, and I blamed the adults around me. Well, when I turned 18, I decided I was going to check out everything the adults told me not to do. Drugs and alcohol were a part of that. Experimenting taught me very valuable lessons, as an adult and more importantly as a Satanist those things dont really make life any better, sure theyre fun at the time, but drugs are thieves who you tell to steal from yourself. It just dosent make sense. Alcohol is the same, except worse. So I totally understand what your saying, but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing. Kowing what I know now from eperimenting, im like you, completely drug free. So I agree with what your saying, I just feel differently about how realisticly people can come to that conclusion.

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#291823 - 12/19/07 05:49 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: drewcifer9]
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 Originally Posted By: drewcifer9
I applaud what you have written. Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it. i had a hateful childhood, and I blamed the adults around me. Well, when I turned 18, I decided I was going to check out everything the adults told me not to do. Drugs and alcohol were a part of that. Experimenting taught me very valuable lessons, as an adult and more importantly as a Satanist those things dont really make life any better, sure theyre fun at the time, but drugs are thieves who you tell to steal from yourself. It just dosent make sense. Alcohol is the same, except worse. So I totally understand what your saying, but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing. Kowing what I know now from eperimenting, im like you, completely drug free. So I agree with what your saying, I just feel differently about how realisticly people can come to that conclusion.


I disagree.
One can easily see the trash that walks most streets. Be it the drunk, or drug addict, they are there like caged animals in a zoo. I have used them often to show our kids the dangers of compulsion.

*EDIT: If the adults had warned you about Russian Roulette, would you want to play that too?


Edited by Tier Instinct (12/19/07 05:54 AM)
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#291836 - 12/19/07 07:09 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Lust]
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"One can easily see the trash that walks most streets. Be it the drunk, or drug addict, they are there like caged animals in a zoo. I have used them often to show our kids the dangers of compulsion"

I agree. There was at some point, they made a choice to give up choice. Good for you, Tier , teaching your kids now.

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#291838 - 12/19/07 07:27 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: SueW]
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They are very smart kids. The point that I want to make is, I doubt that they will want to experiment with drugs or anything illegal! Not because I have told them not to, but because I have shown them what to expect if they do.

The oldest will question me when I turn right on red.
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#291845 - 12/19/07 08:06 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Unknown]
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“Let the dead be with the dead”. There are occasions when I will remember something written in the Christian Bible, and find it interesting that there were times when the writers almost got it. Before I read this post, I was remembering this quote, from Jesus: “Let the dead bury the dead”. The reason I was thinking about that quote is that we just found out that my brother-in-law has esophageal cancer. I realize that many people contract this disease without doing anything to ask for it. However, the fact that there is a good chance that he will die has presented some issues that are brought about by a family that has never learned to take responsibility for their actions.

There have been many threads on this board concerning the issue of Satanists being married to those who are not Satanists. I have stated my position and experience in this matter quite unapologetically. Because I choose to stay with someone who I love very deeply, who is not a Satanist, there are times when marital compromise dictates that I will pay the price for my wife’s sense of compassion. She knows my thoughts on these matters. Let the dead bury their own dead. In other words, it is not our duty to bail my wife’s family out. They have made no arrangements for caring for my brother-in-law’s son.

I think my point is that I am experiencing the issues that you are writing about here, along with living with the experience that we have brought up in other threads. Let me make clear that I do not regret my decision to marry my wife. I can also state, in no uncertain terms, that every relationship has its issues. My personal decision is, and always has been, not to force my wife to do, or not to do, things that are against her nature. Personally, I would decide if another family home was not found to be capable of raising this child, to take him in. What I would not do is take any measures to assure the financial stability and well being of the adults who refuse to take responsibility for them.

This is a timely post, Unknown...thank you for writing it. The topic is elementary Satanism; but it is well to be reminded. May we all have an indulgent season.
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#291854 - 12/19/07 09:17 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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I am sorry to hear, roho, that a family member of yours has such a sad prognosis, and sadder still that a child may be left without a father. The "saving grace" is that you and your wife obviously will guarantee love and stability for a child who needs it.

Your devotion to family consistently impresses me. Your Satanic loyalty to your wife, regardless of her beliefs, is to be applauded.

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#291881 - 12/19/07 11:47 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Ygraine]
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Thank you, Magistra Ygraine.


Edited by Roho_the_Rooster (12/19/07 02:52 PM)
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#291901 - 12/19/07 01:20 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Lust]
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One can easily see the trash that walks most streets. Be it the drunk, or drug addict, they are there like caged animals in a zoo. I have used them often to show our kids the dangers of compulsion.


This is genius. Something I will surely place in my list of 'things to do' as a parent for when and if that day ever arrives. Thank you for sharing this.

This is one of my biggest complaints with sheltered parenting. People hide their kids from the dangers of the world so much that when life finally happens to them they are left mentally defenseless and unaware of the right decisions to make. I have heard plenty of drug addicts make convincing speeches for the benefits of drug use so in some ways I actually feel a little bit sorry for some of these kids. I knew a girl in highschool who had an overbearing christian father who was a well respected educator and philanthropist in the community. They had a 'don't talk about bad things, talk about jesus' policy in their home. At about 16 she ended up rebelling against her father and her family upbringing and taking alot of different drugs and having alot of sex. She contracted an STD and before she wised up and although she has her head on her shoulders now it's too late and she has to deal with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life. It's a case of typical teenage rebellion that got blown out of proportion by repressive christian parenting.

My philosophy is tell the truth, about everything. Kids are always old enough to understand the true answer to a question that they have.

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#291903 - 12/19/07 01:24 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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I agree with Ygraine, Roho. Although I haven't had any interaction with you on these forums as of yet your posts are always intelligent and inspired. Your dedication to family and general attitude towards living makes you a valuable asset to the human race. Best wishes.


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#291919 - 12/19/07 03:06 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Max Rose]
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Thank you, TheGreenGroove.
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#291963 - 12/19/07 05:26 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: drewcifer9]
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Those are true words. But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it.


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but people have to experiment to know what it is. You cant just preach prejuidce without knowing.


Sure you can, Pancho.

Assholes that experiment with this and that drug have provided the medical community with plenty of human trial runs and the results are ugly enough for me to conclude that narcotics ain't healthy. And I've never jumped from a tall building to experience the act of hitting the ground first hand, either. I'm content to let physicists tell me that it would probably hurt, just as I'm content to allow medical doctors to tell me that filling my body full of harmful shit isn't such a good idea. Not every thing under the sun requires experimentation to know that it's just fucked up and plain ol' stupid.

Besides, it's illegal, so testing is out of the question, and it's quite all right to throw mud at guinea pigs. \:\/



Edited by Poetaster (12/19/07 05:29 PM)
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#291973 - 12/19/07 06:07 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Max Rose]
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"This is genius. Something I will surely place in my list of 'things to do' as a parent for when and if that day ever arrives. Thank you for sharing this."


You are welcome. Thank you for the kind words too. ;\)

"I have heard plenty of drug addicts make convincing speeches for the benefits of drug use so in some ways I actually feel a little bit sorry for some of these kids."

Not me.

"I knew a girl in highschool who had an overbearing christian father who was a well respected educator and philanthropist in the community. They had a 'don't talk about bad things, talk about jesus' policy in their home. At about 16 she ended up rebelling against her father and her family upbringing and taking alot of different drugs and having alot of sex. She contracted an STD and before she wised up and although she has her head on her shoulders now it's too late and she has to deal with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life. It's a case of typical teenage rebellion that got blown out of proportion by repressive christian parenting."

Thats funny! \:D

There is always a funny story when you hear "I knew this preachers daughter".

"My philosophy is tell the truth, about everything. Kids are always old enough to understand the true answer to a question that they have."

But what about Satan...I mean Santa Claus?
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#291976 - 12/19/07 06:27 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Poetaster]
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A smart person learns from their own mistakes, while a wise one learns from others' mistakes.

Therefore, I do not need to experience everything, because some have been nice enough to experience certain things for me.

So, I don't have to stick a fork in the toaster.
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#291979 - 12/19/07 06:45 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: TrojZyr]
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So, I don't have to stick a fork in the toaster.


You don't have to. But you know you want to. That smug little toaster, sitting there in the kitchen, mocking you for your cowardice. Go on, show it who's boss!

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#291992 - 12/19/07 07:44 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Lust]
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Do as I do AND what I say.
You seem to be a good parent Tier Instinct.
I respect that.
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#291993 - 12/19/07 07:48 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Lust]
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Thats funny!


Actually you're right. It is kind of funny isn't it?

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There is always a funny story when you hear "I knew this preachers daughter".


I've heard the same is true for Catholic school-girls too.

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But what about Satan...I mean Santa Claus?


Hmm... good point, well I suppose if you get your jollies making children cry. I prefer stepping on kittens myself.

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#291994 - 12/19/07 07:55 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: drewcifer9]
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Congratulations, Drewcifer. You have rediscovered a very ancient truth.

You may be interested in knowing that this is a grand Christian tradition. To learn more, read the writings of "Saint" Augustine, Martin Luther and Paul the Apostle.

They have each condoned, advocated and encouraged the practice of sin in order to experience God's grace. In fact, the greater the sin, the more of God's grace you will recieve.

Unfortunately for a Satanist, there is no sin. There are only...mistakes (to put a positive spin on things)...from which they either learn, or are eventually destroyed. The rub is, once a Satanist knows an action is...unwise (another positive spin)...there seems to be little they can learn.



PS...I assume that you no longer use this method.
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#291999 - 12/19/07 08:14 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Thank you, Roho_the_Rooster!

I am the dreaded step-parent! But all three kids make the A Honor Roll.
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#292034 - 12/20/07 01:37 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Lust]
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I personally have been down many of the "roads" posted in this topic.

I have been the boozing derelict, the hopped up druggie, the infamous felon, the walking dead, and none of them now are very appealing to me at all.

I choose to walk the straight and narrow and hope that I reflect good decision making abilities now because I feel that I have learned from my mistakes. I feel drugs are a waste of precious time and pointless as well as damaging. I feel that drinking to get drunk is just as pointless and eventually makes you appear to be an idiot. Being homeless just sucks all around because no one takes you seriously and you smell terrible amongst many other obvious reasons. And due to this wonderful felony on my record it is tough to get a job and most people think that I'm worthless and doomed to commit more crimes. Great huh?!

If I were to ever have kids, and hopefully I don't, I have all of this experience under my belt to tell them not to do any of the things that I've done. I'm a walking do the right thing add! For now since I don't have kids I'm trying to instill positivity into my siblings by making them take a look at my history and know in their hearts that they don't want that kind of life for themselves. That's where most of those roads end, either in prison or death.

I feel now that I am fully embracing life for the first time in years and man does it feel great! Quite invigorating! To think that I've been dead for that many years of my life is actually quite a rediculous thought. It shouldn't have taken me this long to realize this shit. I consider myself a smart person who has done some really retarded things. But I made my bed now I have to lie in it. The trick now is getting some positive experience out of life which anything is possible if you put your mind to it.

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#292052 - 12/20/07 07:42 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: hellbent666]
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I have yet to see a case of airing out your mistakes, for the sake of others to learn not have the opposite effect than intended. When someone hears someone else say that they did this, that and the other thing, what they actually hear is…I did all of these things and survived. You can, too! That is all they hear.
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#292071 - 12/20/07 09:53 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Your forgetting the fact that if you make a mistake then you should ensure the least amount of people know about it, its common sense.

As long as the person who has made (then corrected) the mistake acknowledges it no one else really needs to know. Criminal records are different because they are a mistake that some people need to know about, employers for instance.

Shouting your mistakes from rooftops not only encourages idiots to repeat them but also makes you look like a fool for making them in the first place. unfortunately in the world we live in such individuals are idolized. Criminals in gangs are deified by rap music and the media and worshiped by misguided youngsters and can intimidate people just with the label.

I suspect this is what "hellbent666" intended when he displayed his avatar, he wanted us to respect and fear him because he was "gangsta". I have encountered many like him and they don't impress or intimidate me at all in fact they amuse me greatly with their constant displays of idiocy, ending up in a pool of blood and shell casings where they belong.
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#292079 - 12/20/07 10:43 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: shadowraven213]
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It would be nice if you do not see this as an attack, Shadowraven. It is not. I am also not defending Hellbent. But I doubt your assessment is correct. I could be wrong.

I will only say this one time. I am perfectly willing to give Hellbent a chance to find his momentum. If the last paragraph is an indication of where his head is today, more power to him. As long as someone gives me no reason to suspect that they are a danger to my tribe, or me I have no beef with them. Okay…add animals and children to the list. If someone learns from mistakes…great.

Hellbent…when you post without needlessly referring to your past, I will be glad to participate. Perhaps this would be more appropriate in a private message; but the issue has been displayed in a public manner. Read again the post, by Unknown, that began this thread, and put it into practice. Now is now. If you are really serious about loving life, let the past go. As you said, there will be enough people making an issue of it. Why add to that? Just as I have yet to see telling others the sordid details of our past do any good, I have also not seen anyone who keeps dwelling on that past not returning it. A dog returns to its vomit. Be a man…not a dog. This is the last time I will address this.
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#292092 - 12/20/07 11:23 AM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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What made you think I would perceive disagreement with something I wrote an attack? your allowed to disagree with me as long as you can explain why if I ask.

If I really wanted to know I would have asked him, I said I suspect it because that was the way I perceived it regardless of the actual reason.

It wasn't an attack on hellbent666 either, I made him aware of what I thought about him in a different thread. If anything that he writes proves worthy of reading and thinking about my opinion of him will change accordingly.
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#292106 - 12/20/07 12:49 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: shadowraven213]
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 Originally Posted By: shadowraven213
What made you think I would perceive disagreement with something I wrote an attack? your allowed to disagree with me as long as you can explain why if I ask.






I understand, and appreciate that. I am more comfortable trying to make my motives explicit, when posting something I feel may be misunderstood. The Internet leaves open the possibility for misunderstandings, even when it should be assumed no offense was meant. It is obvious you understood my motive. \:\)

Thank you.
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#292111 - 12/20/07 01:16 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: drewcifer9]
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 Originally Posted By: drewcifer9
But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it.

Personal experiment isn't the only means of experience. In high school and especially college, I saw enough people with their heads hanging over puke-filled toilets to know "That doesn't look like fun".
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#292117 - 12/20/07 01:30 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Bill_M]
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 Originally Posted By: Bill_M
 Originally Posted By: drewcifer9
But when it comes to drinking, smoking, and drugs, I believe we all should experiment first before we speak aganst it.

Personal experiment isn't the only means of experience. In high school and especially college, I saw enough people with their heads hanging over puke-filled toilets to know "That doesn't look like fun".


Experimenting first seems to be a weak excuse for engaging in stupid activity.

Drinking excessively? Why would anyone want to do this by their own free will? When I was much younger, I did this to the point of ending up in the hospital. I learned from that mistake, but I would certainly never suggest for anyone to get alcohol poisoning just to experience what it is like. If I drink, I drink one or two drinks, nice and slow. More enjoyable, no risk of idiocy involved.

Smoking? Why would anyone want to experiment with this? Last I heard, it was extremely addictive to those who KEEP experimenting with it. For the smarter ones, the ones who have control, they may choose to smoke a cigar or two every year, but that is about it. This is an entirely different bird, one to big for me to discuss in the five minutes I have before I go to work, but to sum it up, I certainly would never suggest my kids or anyone else under my influence smoke, just to "see how it is."

Drugs are a pretty sensitive topic around here. There are probably a few who have experimented with drugs one way or another, but don't anymore. They are generally smart, and don't discuss it, because A: this isn't a drug forum. B: drugs are illegal. I'm sure there have been more than a few people in the past who decided to "experiment" as such, and ended up in a body bag the next day for one reason or another, or in jail. Whatever personal opinions are formed about drugs and drug legislation is generally something I'm sure people keep private, especially around here...but the bottom line again, the law IS against them at the current point in time. Personally, my opinion is, why waste your time? The only people I have seen drugs have gratifying effects on were idiots with very little else to do in their lives, and often, with too much money to go around. I pretty much formed my opinion on them when I went to a friends house, found out he and three other people had taken magic mushrooms, and then proceeded to watch one of them vomit on himself, and eat it out of fear of losing the effect of the drugs. Yeah, looks like a lot of damn fun to me.

I don't think trying anything, or experimenting, is necessary. If I watch someone jump into a fire and be burned alive, I am quickly able to form the opinion that said thing is not such a great idea, without having to perform the act myself.

Opinions do not always, and indeed, should not always, be formed based on actual experience. A lot of grief can be saved with the use of common sense.

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#292212 - 12/20/07 09:42 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: drewcifer9]
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This seems like a sad attempt to justify compulsive behavior. There is no wisdom or wealth in drugs, an experiment is not needed to understand this.

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#292369 - 12/21/07 05:35 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Colonel Kurtz]
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Try explaining to a child that fire is hot without them feeling the heat from it.

Some people need to know and not believe, a very Satanic trait.

Its when you find the child sticking his hand into the flames over and over then you know something is wrong.

On a more complex level and on the subject of drugs many people have tried drugs just to see what they do, and then when they know don't do them again. These people try drugs and they are stupid for trying it and because of the illegality but not very stupid, if they don't take it again don't tell many people, keep safe while they're on the drug and avoid a habit.

Then there are people who use "soft" drugs as an "augmentation" of their lives, they perceive their use as purely functional. For example the pothead who smokes at the end of a day to relax, or the people who take ecstasy to "connect" with people at clubs. These people use drugs and are compelled to use them and they are quite stupid deceiving themselves on a regular basis. abusers of alcohol no matter how mild fit this tier. They could stop but many "just don't want to" and constantly try to justify themselves with this phrase.

Then there are the "walking dead" who ARE drugs, everything they do is because, of and for the procurement and taking of drugs. They are pure idiots unless they can drag themselves out of it as some quite stunning individuals have but they are a rarity.

All of these people are stupid but their level of stupidity varies.
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#292576 - 12/22/07 06:18 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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This is a timely post, Unknown...thank you for writing it. The topic is elementary Satanism; but it is well to be reminded. May we all have an indulgent season.


You are most welcome.

I appreciate the positive feedback I got from you.

Be strong!
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#293365 - 12/26/07 03:29 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Chess]
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 22
Loc: Liverpool, UK.
The amount of times I've had to shout "DON'T USE THAT FORK IN THE TOASTER!"...

My parents used very skillful ways of tackling the "don't do drugs" problem.

When I was younger, a girl died of a drug overdose, and to help other people learn, her family made a video about her life, the photographed her dead body, they interviewed her drug dealers, and they released it to the public on the tv.

My parents sat me and my friend down and let us watch it and I can tell you, I learned a hell of a lot then.
I knew everything in that video, about how bad drugs could get, but seeing it properly made me think more about it.

Not to mention a death of a cousin in my family who had been in rehab for years, who took drugs just as she left and payed the consequences.

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A smart person learns from their own mistakes, while a wise one learns from others' mistakes.


How right you are TrojZyr.
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#293677 - 12/27/07 03:22 PM Re: Experience Everything! [Re: Wanderlust]
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 20
Alot of people may decide that cutting there life short is a fair trade for the feelings they get from certain drugs. However, I prefer my own reality than whatever fucked up trip somebody else might be having. Any form of life is better than an untimely death.

Not only can drugs be dangerous, but i find certain substances can make people obnoxious. There are already enough idiots in the world.

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