Greetings,
Perhaps I might have mistaken the forum, but since this is a general question about satansim im posting it here; does anybody around there, know something about the Dragon Rouge Order, which is a satanist order from Northern Europe,based in Stockholm and growing fast in Europe and America, that practices many satanic rituals?

Thanks all.

Have a great Winter Solstice!
HS!

Exactly what Satanic rituals are they practicing?

Considering one of the authors studied by this group is Carlos Castaneda, whose ideas are in opposition to ours, I can personally see no connection between them and us.

If I may make a suggestion…there are sure to be other idiots, like myself, who will probably confuse the issue. Knowledgeable members of the priesthood, or possibly a Magister will answer any question put forth in the “Questions About the Church of Satan” forum.


Happy Winter Solstice to you, as well.

Castaneda, he is the one who worked with a shaman in Mexico, correct?

I have read a bit of his work. Interesting fantasy to be sure. There was a Simpsons episode based on his ideas, the one where Homer eats the insanity pepper and goes on a spiritual journey.

He is the one.

Gee thanks for aswering! Maybe more than Carlos Castaneda, they are working with Nordic Magic, Samic magic (?) Grimories, and so forth, there are polish and german authors whose works(some) are availabe in America such as "Glimpses of the Left Hand Path" , The book of Mephisto", "Necronomicon Gnosis", "Embracing the Dark: the Magic Order of the Dragon Rouge", they are a left hand pathed order, perhaps a Northern European satanism, Im not very familiar with Northern European satanism or magical ceremonies, but would like to have a more objective point of view of this left hand path.

HS!

"Necronomicon Gnosis"

That sounds.... gelatinous!

Isn't that the demon-worshiping group that advocates psychedelic drug use?

If so, then they are not Satanists at all.

There is only one Satanism. It was codified and presented to the world by Magus LaVey. Everything else is a copy, and usually a bad one.

And that's the bottom line, because Magus LaVey, did so!

Oh and my favorite quote comes to mind:

"When people ask me, 'What gives you the right to suggest standards for others?', my answer is, 'If I don't, someone else, perhaps less qualified, will.' History has proven that qualification is based on acceptance. The end justifies the means."

Anton LaVey - The Devil's Notebook.


But even now, there are STILL people that think they are qualified at coming up with something that they want to call Satanism. More often than not, they intend to make it into the antithesis of The Church of Satan, which is ridiculous in the first place, but then they load it down with spirituality and new age nonsense that it becomes as asinine as the white light religions which they harp incessantly against.

Need more be said?

If one looks at the Wikipedia article on them it seems that it does not refer to them as Satanists, but as a magical order of the left hand path.

Sounds to me more like they're a bunch of goth and metal fans with an interest in the occult. Why do you refer to them as Satanists?

Their website says that you have to pay an annual subscription of 40 euros, which will enable you to order their courses (suggesting further payment) so that you can become initiated.

Compare this with the Bunco sheet available on the Church of Satan website.



Why should one pay an annual fee to study the philosophy of Nietzsche and the operas of Wagner when you can do that for free on your own?

"Diet Satanism"

Tastes almost as the real thing... but has none of the substance.