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#299584 - 01/19/08 09:53 AM What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet?
Max Faust Offline
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Without getting into the details, I was baffled yesterday by being asked if I thought someone, whom I consider a friend, was "real". Apparently, if you have an online presence, you have something to prove. People are completely disregarding the fact that you CAN have online friends and acquantances who live thousands of miles away that you are never likely to meet. But it can still be a personally gratifying experience to talk with them. It's just the nature of the game.

Not wanting to get into any deep water debate on the philosophical constituents of reality, I still want to ask what is the breaking point. At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?

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#299598 - 01/19/08 10:35 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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 Originally Posted By: Max Faust
At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?



When the red light on your bullshit detector doesn't go off.
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#299627 - 01/19/08 12:27 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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 Quote:
At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?

The moment you meet them in person. Other than that, who cares?
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#299663 - 01/19/08 03:52 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Minus]
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 Originally Posted By: Minus
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At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?

The moment you meet them in person. Other than that, who cares?


I would second this, based on six years of internet socialising and meeting people from it.
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#299718 - 01/19/08 07:58 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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As we all know, the Internet is just a series of tubes filled with ones and zeros. What makes anyone real is his personal accomplishments in the real world.
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#299735 - 01/19/08 09:18 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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If this sort of thing is interesting to you, I can recommend Baudrillard and Turing and you haven't already read them.

At what point can you tell anything is real?
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#299736 - 01/19/08 09:21 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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"At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?"

The moment you start to question someone, they will forever be on trial. You will constantly find yourself playing the role of Judge, when in interaction. It is when these moments occur that I have found it best to decline interaction, sit back, and let said person sink or swim. I do the same in real world situations. Stratify.
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#299776 - 01/20/08 02:03 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Lust]
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I take the person they say they are for granted.
I don`t realy care for them beeing male or female or whatever, I classify `em for their behavior and, if it`s a game, skills.
It`s not usually like I`m ever gonna meet most of `em in IRL.
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#299780 - 01/20/08 02:17 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Lust]
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 Originally Posted By: Tier Instinct
sit back, and let said person sink or swim


Aye. This is it. That's what I do.

I will also say that much of the time it is of no consequence to me whether they are "real" or not, as this is simply none of my business - and it doesn't change diddely squat for me. The question is rather whether they are amusing and/or a source of useful information. As we say in Norway: "If this isn't true it is at least a good story".

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#299781 - 01/20/08 02:22 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: RandomStranger]
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 Originally Posted By: RandomStranger
I can recommend Baudrillard and Turing


I have "The Distinction" in my shelf but I haven't opened it yet. Next out is "World Hypotheses" by Stephen C. Pepper, subtitled Prologomena to systematic philosophy and a complete survey of metaphysics. Yes this is indeed an interesting question to spin thoughts around. I find that Schopenhauer had it pretty much covered though, with "the world as will and imagination" - as much of what we acknowledge in terms of "reality" is preposterous, if you subject it to scientific standards for evidence.

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#299784 - 01/20/08 02:30 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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All online personalities are ficticious until proved otherwise by flesh and blood experience. Take for instance the way a person "speaks" on here. It might look nice and well done, but in reality they can be a really horrible speaker unless given hours to think of a subject or rebuttal. Or, it could be vice versa and the person is a proficient speaker, but has no computer skills. So until they back up their goods with flesh and blood or sweat and tears; eat their words with a salt shaker conveniently at hand. HS!
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#299891 - 01/20/08 02:30 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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 Originally Posted By: Max Faust
At what moment can you know that somebody is "real" and not just some pretentious online profile?

I'd say it's the same breaking point when it comes to accepting anything else as real: when any alternative explanation seems so elaborate and ridiculous to make any sense. It's not just a single document that establishes fact, but enough accumulated data that all fits together.

People can hear my voice every week on my on-line radio show. They can see photos of me with other people. And they can see video clips of me where the voice matches up with the image. Numerous people on-line can attest to meeting me in person. And I've made countless internet posts over many years that are consistant with the hobbies I list, etc.

Is there a chance that maybe, just maybe, I'm not really Bill M.? That somebody has hacked my account, or somehow made a fake scan of my COS card to set up the account here in the first place? That maybe all of the people who have claimed to meet me are really just all in on a big secret, that Bill M. isn't real? And that I have somebody else who stands in for those video clips and records The Devil's Mischief every week? Or maybe I've been dead for years and none of my real-life friends have said anything about it?

Yes, I'm sure these crazy things are all possible. It's always possible to imagine some weird hypothetical situation that gives different explanation. But you have to ask: why would somebody go out of their way to do this? And how likely is it that I got everybody to go along with it and never let the cat out of the bag?
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#300103 - 01/21/08 10:35 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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Is being "REAL" on the internet really THAT important?

One might conject (since solipsism is one of the Satanic
Sins) that I am real, at least to the extent that there
is a force (whether encased in a shell of protoplasm, or
not) that has taken the necessary steps to produce the
words that have appeared on this post.

Is what you are asking Max Faust, "How does one adequately
or accurately represent themself in a forum where other
participants have neither prior knowledge or visual
confirmation of their presence; and are the messages
said entity is expressing, consistent with how they would
appear to you were they in the same room with you at
that moment: "Does the poster have INTEGRITY ?"

What I would suggest Max Faust, is that what is real is not
nearly as important as what is useful. The words that are
read here (and the ideas that they relate) are much like a
piece of Impressionist Art: What you see, is what you get;
the greatest part of that coming from YOUR interpretation of
what you have read, and how YOU relate it to YOUR life.

Obviously, I am not a female meerkat nursing her pups; if this
were the case, I would probably be too occupied with foraging
in order to provide milk for the pups, keeping the home well
kept, and being on constant alert for possible predators.

Having said that, I have been as forthright as I possibly know
how to be:

I was once affiliated with the Church of Satan,
(at least to the extent of filling out an application, paying
the required amount of money, and getting a letter of acceptance
and a membership card in the mail).
I was reckless in my pursuit of magic:
I had what I believe (to this day) to be
an involuntary OBE: I came into contact with something which
terrified the living daylights out of me, and I somehow managed
to snap back into my body.

Sending in my letter of resignation
was both stupid and thoughtless on my part.

I lost all concept
of rational thought, and simply reacted. I had become then
what I now detest: the herd!
What I had experienced, I would
compare to anyone who has had the distinction of staring down
the barrel of a loaded gun while they are being robbed: who
you are, and what you believe at that moment are GONE.

None of this was the fault of the Church of Satan, in ANY way.

It is all on me:

I fucked up.

I was stupid.

I admit it.

It may sound psychotic to say that I have "taken control of
his body", but in my thinking, I am simply NOT the same entity
that I was back then. I am OLDER. I am somewhat WISER. And
I am still among the living-- this is what is MOST important
to me.

SURVIVAL IS THE HIGHEST LAW.

For the record, the material that I was using at the time of the
incident was not published
by the Church of Satan. It was a book by someone who identified
themself as Dr. Christopher S. Hyatt.

I think that this person is a wonderful author; and anything that
I may have experienced is certainly NOT his fault.


An example:

If I produce proof that I am a legally licensed driver, I pay
the funds necessary to buy an automobile, and then I take that
car out on the freeway and crash it (or more dramatically, drive
it off of a cliff), I don't blame the autodealer, and I don't
blame "God" or nature because gravity pulled the car towards the
center of the earth, making the car crash.

Acquiring the license; purchasing the car; starting the ignition;
putting the car in gear; and drivng (however recklessly) the
car off of a cliff are all willed acts.
"It's nobody's fault but mine."

For the record, if there is any way that I can gain readmission
into the Church of Satan, then I would like to do this very much!


In Closing:

I can say, first and foremost, that the Church of Satan is
the "Real Deal".

Magic exists (please use responsibly).

And that I am very happy to be alive. \:\)

AND

I am most delighted and
honored to have access to this forum;
both with you Max Faust, as well
as the other Esteemed Members of the Satanic Community.

This is my experience; (to the extent that I can be deemed
a "reliable narrator").

If that is not "REAL", then I don't know what "REAL" is.


GCaesarWhiskers


Edited by GCaesarWhiskers (01/21/08 12:19 PM)
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#300106 - 01/21/08 10:45 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: GCaesarWhiskers]
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What does your resignation from the Church of Satan and supposed 'out of body' experience have to do with this topic?
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#300123 - 01/21/08 11:38 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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What is considered "real" in the first place?
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#300134 - 01/21/08 12:22 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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Interesting question.

I'd say it takes time, observation, and gradual, mutual disclosure. After numerous conversations about many topics, has a person made you feel suspicious or uneasy at any point? Is something perhaps too good or too bad to be true? Does a person contradict himself or herself too much? What doesn't add up?

You have to do this in real world relationships, too, since some people lie and exaggerate everywhere you go in the world.

As for me, I'm actually a super-intelligent technorganic dog, dictating to a cat with hands whilst holding him at gunpoint.
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#300137 - 01/21/08 12:28 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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In response to your question, HoundDog, it is my opinion
that being "real" is presenting oneself as honestly as one
can (and doing so to the extent that one is comfortable).

What is your take on the subject?

GCaesarWhiskers
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#300196 - 01/21/08 03:36 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: GCaesarWhiskers]
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Wow. THat went from a response to Max Faust, and turned into a very long drawn out apology note. Not quite so delightful.
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#300211 - 01/21/08 04:55 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Seeker Of Wisdom]
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Hello, Seeker Of Wisdom.

I would not view my post as an apology,
as much as an acknowledgement.
"What we do not acknowledge, we cannot
change."
Obviously, I have made some mistakes in
my past.

The Lttd. messageboard is a most wonderful
forum that Magister Ventrue has allowed for
all of us.

I certainly hope that no one will make the
glaring errors of my past, but if they do,
at least they have someone, here, with whom
they can speak.

Thank You, Magister Ventrue, for the services
and opportunities that You provide us, here.

Seeker of Wisdom, may you find all that you seek.

"Sin well."

GCaesarWhiskers
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#300214 - 01/21/08 05:00 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: GCaesarWhiskers]
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Maybe we should simply ask John Nash about what makes one real and what doesn't.

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#300219 - 01/21/08 05:42 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Dead Roses]
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Oh, you made me laugh Roses! \:\)

As for me...see that lady on the left of your screen? That's me. For REAL. Though a talented actress with a glorious sense of imagination, I don't have the inclination to pretend to be something/someone I am not on this board. Yeah, and that's my REAL name too.
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#300220 - 01/21/08 05:45 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: TrojZyr]
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 Quote:
As for me, I'm actually a super-intelligent technorganic dog, dictating to a cat with hands whilst holding him at gunpoint.


You too? Wow, freaky coincidence.

-Chess

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#300248 - 01/21/08 08:25 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Muse]
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So, are you saying Sarah, that I am pretending to be someone
or something I am not? If so, spit it out, please do not mince
words.

GCaesarWhiskers
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#300249 - 01/21/08 08:27 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Dead Roses]
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What precisely are you implying, Dead Roses?

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#300253 - 01/21/08 08:44 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: GCaesarWhiskers]
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I was simply replying to the thread "What Exactly Makes You REAL on the Internet".
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The holy trinity: Me, Myself, and I.

"Does anyone ever realize life while they are living it? Every, every minute?"
- Emily, Our Town, by Thornton Wilder


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#300260 - 01/21/08 08:59 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Muse]
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I apologize, Sarah.

Thank you for the clarification.

GCaesarWhiskers

p.s.:Have a Great Week! \:\)
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#300335 - 01/22/08 07:29 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: GCaesarWhiskers]
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Real is whatever you want it to be.
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#300336 - 01/22/08 07:35 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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Thank you, HoundDog.

GCaesarWhiskers
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#300341 - 01/22/08 08:21 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Lust]
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Well put, Tier Instinct. I like your description of yourself as judge. The act of discrimination protects us from the devastating effects of unconditional love.

I like the story of Zarathustra, going down, in search of the Übermensch. He does so by presenting the possibility of the Übermensch, perchance to find another to walk with. Most of his time was spent being misunderstood, ignored and ridiculed. But the joy in finding that one in a million…was it worth his while?

I think the Internet is simply another form of communication. I think that there is some felt need for people to seek out those they feel a kinship with. I think it takes a lot of work, time and discernment to accomplish that, including the use of the Internet. This medium can be a starting point. I think it is interesting that Nietzsche claims he got the idea of Eternal Recurrence when encountering a 6,000-foot pyramidal block of stone. I cannot help but think of the opening scene of “2001: A Space Odyssey”. A monolith is presented as being the agent of evolutionary change. I think of a touchstone that can be an agent of change; but, as we see at the end of the movie, it can also act as a beacon, calling to itself the race it produced. Perhaps the epilogue to the movie is the evolution of man to the Übermensch. I like to think so.

I realize that I mention some rather personal aspects of myself in the forum. There is a reason for that. In a sense, it is to act as a beacon. A signal is sent out, to see if there may be a few like-minded individuals. As you mention in your post, it is a means of discrimination, or judging. See…I have a car, and the money to take me beyond my immediate surroundings. I know that there are a few, based on my interactions with them, in the context of what I have chosen to reveal about myself, that I will make plans to associate with beyond this medium.

Can you really know someone on the Internet? That depends totally on the people involved.

Can the Internet be a tool to discover people you find interesting enough to attempt more intimate interaction? With the use of discrimination, I have already seen that take place. In fact, I was on the phone last night with someone I initially met online, and have since visited. Is it worth it? That depends.
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#300348 - 01/22/08 09:22 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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To Tier Instinct and Roho the Rooster...I concur. Well thought and well said.
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The holy trinity: Me, Myself, and I.

"Does anyone ever realize life while they are living it? Every, every minute?"
- Emily, Our Town, by Thornton Wilder


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#300367 - 01/22/08 10:09 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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My instinct always tell me who is worth my time in here, and it does the same in the other reality, so this reality is just as real for me as the other reality.

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#300381 - 01/22/08 10:47 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: LightAngel]
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As for me I don't separate the internet reality from flesh reality. I imagine everyone in front of their computers, typing away just as I am. I also envision the environment that each individual is living in. And although the pictures I see are my own creation and are essentially fictional, it still gives the interaction a sense of flesh reality that is lacking in this medium.

I don't get trapped inside the box, I see the box as the conduit for our interaction.
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#300382 - 01/22/08 10:51 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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Ultimately, meeting someone is the better judge of people. That does not mean that I do not form opinions about people that I interact with online. Far from it. I'm constantly viewing posts and forming ideas about people here. I'm damn sure that others do the same to me. I have no doubt that Hierarchy view posts and classify us all.

As for what is "real"...who knows? People who try too hard usually show a crack in the veneer eventually. At the same time, I would be offended if someone thought that all I am could be represented here online in two-dimensional posts. I think I'm far more interesting than that.

There's only one part of HER I hope remains real.

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#300391 - 01/22/08 11:14 AM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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 Originally Posted By: HoundDog


I don't get trapped inside the box, I see the box as the conduit for our interaction.


And that is precisely what it is. There really shouldn't be any seperation. I truly believe that those of us with one iota of sense can see through anyone's pretensiousness.

And since she's above us there, can I just say Lexiphanic, honey, you have some captivating eyes!
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#300401 - 01/22/08 12:02 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Zaftig]
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Absolutely! I know that you know this; but the “ignore” button is a great tool. I am not talking about simply ignoring, but as a mnemonic device regarding whom you are undecided about. The act of “toggling” can remind you that you need to have your shields up. Why? I do not know about you, but the number of screen names there are makes it difficult to have a mental synopsis of more than a few at a time. Let us say I see a post from…I don’t know…I’ll say Tier Instinct. I have read enough of his posts to know that it’s safe to assume I will not contract any mental damage from reading his post. Even if it is the occasional goofy stuff (I have made many of those), the balance is on the side that I will not see that every time I click on a post he has made.

Now, if someone arrives, and decides to use the name Kickmeplease, or IamabadassforSatan, or, worse yet, an avatar that turns my stomach...they are easy to pretty much read off. The exception is, of course, the witty use of animals in one’s name. That shows class. But there are many that seem to run together. If they prove to be trust-worthy, they can be taken off the ignore list. OR…you can be safe and just read posts by hierarchy…whatever works.

But…yes…impressions are formed by our words. Hopefully, that is just a small glimpse.
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#300438 - 01/22/08 01:39 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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I agree with your post because it agrees with mine (spontaneous virtual lovefest!!!).


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Even if it is the occasional goofy stuff (I have made many of those)


Hail the goofy stuff! I'm glad people share their knowledge as well as their wit. It's part of the package.

I think we are both mature enough to understand my next comment for the sincere compliment that it is; your humour makes you attractive. Omit that and this would be a terribly boring place.

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#300441 - 01/22/08 01:52 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Zaftig]
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 Originally Posted By: lexiphanic


I think we are both mature enough to understand my next comment for the sincere compliment that it is; your humour makes you attractive.



Thank you!
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#300481 - 01/22/08 04:42 PM Re: What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet? [Re: Max Faust]
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Registered: 01/03/08
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What Exactly Makes You REAL On The Internet?


I'm not.

;\) Heh... as has been said... I think that, to make someone 'real' to you, you'd have to meet them.

They can still be fun. I know quite a few very interesting and amusing pixel-people. Once I meet them... they won't be pixel-people any more! \:\)
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