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#29963 - 03/05/04 04:54 AM God or not god?

Let me ask you a question. If you had the choice (and I'm sure everybody here has) to either live an "ordinary" and "moderate" life (that's not to say your life would be poor otherwise, just simple) with your loved ones in, say, a small forest gottage(that's my ideal place for peace, anyways) undisturbed by the rest of the world and so on(...utopia, I know, but let's imagine), or to be the king of the hill, having ultimate power over everyone and everything, being able to deside about everybodys' destiny, which one would you choose? Really? Would you have anything against living without all the modern gadgets, or would you feel an urge for the developement of humankind and man's brains? I know this is a rather naiive question, but please try be open and think about it. Myself, I'd go for either. World domination or a totally happy, simple life. I'm much rather happy than right.

Note: I'm not a hippie(hippy... how exactly do you spell it?). When talking about an absurd thing like happiness, I'm referring to everybody's own thoughts of happiness, not the world peace etc.

#29964 - 03/05/04 05:05 AM Sorry family, I have an urge to reign and dictate.

I wouldn't mind making people do things to make their own lives better. Fascism done right.

Hail Satan!

#29965 - 03/05/04 05:17 AM Re: God or not god?
Doogie Offline
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If your aiming for your 'Total Environment' then I think you take a bit of both. But like they say "too much of a good thing is bad for you", so sooner or later you'll end up trying to kill everyone in the cottage. And, as for being able to decide everyone's destiny…. I do believe the herd problem has been solved!!

Hail Satan!

#29966 - 03/05/04 06:56 AM Re: God or not god? [Re: Doogie]

I made that post in a hurry at school, which is the worst possible kind of mistake to do, since the idea of these message boards is to let people take their time and write with thought, and I forgot to mention something about where I was going with it. The idea I had in my mind was to find out how you are planning to spend your life; will you always be reaching for the highest possible position or are you someday going to just "settle" for what you have and take it easy? Asking this would be a total waste of time, unless I knew that in today's society making progress asks for real trouble and talents, and that some people just can't keep up with the pace. I suppose here is where the talent is at, though. I don't know of any Satanist(or almost any other kind of a human), who would simply give up when times are tough, but giving up the dream of a great life is not what I mean, it's more like "half of the cake is better than no cake". Hope you get what I'm after.

#29967 - 03/05/04 08:05 AM Re: Sorry family, I have an urge to reign and dictate.
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Ahh, yes, I think my boyfriend knows how I'd answer this one too.."You always think you're right"..."Damn it, Dale, I am right!!!"
Pride may be worth less than safety but it's certainly worth more than convenience.

--The Royal Me

#29968 - 03/05/04 09:35 AM Re: God or not god?
Old_Pig Offline

Registered: 11/27/02
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Loc: The Deep South
I would choose the small forest gottage... as long as there is high speed internet connection and it's at least inside the range of one Pizza delivery service.
You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.
Robert A. Heinlein

#29969 - 03/05/04 11:39 AM Re: God or not god?
Stanton_Vetalas Offline

Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 240
Loc: Teh 518
I think you can do both.

(Both the moderate life and the king of the hill I mean)

Edited by MentalPause (03/05/04 11:41 AM)

#29970 - 03/05/04 01:19 PM Re: God or not god?
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I think the Deros have the best plan.
Believe Nothing. Test Everything.

#29971 - 03/05/04 03:06 PM Re: God or not god?
Max Rose Offline

Registered: 11/17/03
Posts: 285
I would pick god... why infact, I DO PICK GOD! Soon you will feel your own control slipping to be replaced by my ineffable will.


#29972 - 03/05/04 03:44 PM Re: Sorry family, I have an urge to reign and dictate.
Dan_Dread Offline

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 523
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada

I wouldn't mind making people do things to make their own lives better. Fascism done right.

Hail Satan!

George? George Bush? Is that you?
"One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike and yet it is the most precious thing we have." - Albert Einstein --------------------

#29973 - 03/05/04 03:46 PM Re: God or not god?
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All in all, the choices don't seem equal. I view one as being fundamentally superior than the other.

The King of the world would be able to live a "moderate" life whenever he wishes (for a day, week, month, years) for he's the King of the world and what he says goes. The man living the "moderate" life can not simply choose to be King of the world for any span of time.

One choice offers both options, the other choice offers only one.
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
-Carl Sagan

#29974 - 03/05/04 04:01 PM Re: God or not god?
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Loc: USA
If I'm happy, I AM the king of the hill. I'll choose the cottage. I wouldn't want to clean up after everybodies shit. Ruling the world would be an anoying responsibility.

But I also think that I DO have power over certain peoples destinies.

Edited by johnharperjr (03/05/04 04:03 PM)
They are doomed because they cannot even glimpse beyond the construct that their masters have put into place. Their masters are doomed because they believe in the construct they created.

#29975 - 03/05/04 04:12 PM Re: God or not god?
Foxy_Ramirez Offline

Registered: 01/16/04
Posts: 207
Loc: Lawrence, KS
I would much rather rule the world than simply be alive. Sure, a small happy life could be nice, but where is the excitement? Just like it says in the Satanic Bible, What is love without hate? If you live the same constant life everyday, it will eventually get boring and there will simply be no point to it. You will never be completely happy.

I could not only make my life happier (And afford to pay for all my fun little fetishs), but I could enhance the lives of those around me. People would have somebody to look up to, see me high up on the pyramid of power, and then they would have something to strive for. With their inevitable need to gain power, human evolution will take place and man will take one more step in the right (Or left )direction. I could have everything I ever wanted, buy the education I could never afford, and, of course, Kill George Bush, whom is the obvious hater of freedom in America!!!!
"There is a beast in man that should be exercised, not exorcised." ~ Anton Szandor LaVey

#29976 - 03/05/04 07:49 PM Re: Sorry family, I have an urge to reign and dictate. [Re: Dan_Dread]
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Oh, that is some funny stuff, Dan.
"I've learned . . . that life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes." ~Andy Rooney

"At last I shall have time to devote myself seriously and freely to the destruction of all my former opinions." ~Descartes

“The first principle is that you must not fool yourself—and you are the easiest person to fool.” ~Richard Feynman

#29977 - 03/05/04 07:54 PM Re: God or not god? [Re: Mason_Rust]
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Dan, for thousands of years it's been recognized that tyrants don't have the option of just picking up and hiding out somewhere for a relaxing weekend away from the office.

A tyrant has liabilities that someone of modest inclinations just doesn't have.

#29978 - 03/05/04 09:36 PM Re: God or not god?

Life is full of options. Why limit yourself to only two?

#29979 - 03/05/04 11:28 PM Re: God or not god?

Rule the world? No thanks. I don't need the negativity of the rest of the humans in this world to bring me down and burden my mind. I would rather not contaminate my thoughts by dwelling on the events and situations which permeate the lives of the monkey-minds. There's a lot of shit in this world, and the less time I'm exposed to it, the better off I'll be.

Instead, I enjoy ruling my own little world, the one that I live in and the one that I can effectively control. I was not born to be a follower, but I was not born to be a leader of many others either. I can't concern myself with following or leading, especially since I seem to stray and wander on my own, reaching my destinations in accordance to my own will and methods.

Lead a simple life? Life is simple already. It's people who complicate it. With that said, you can see why I'd prefer not to be burdened with too many other people. I like to keep things as simple as possible. In regards to technology, I often love the latest gadgets. It really just depends on what gadget it is. I'm a realistic person, I prefer the functional. I'd much rather have a cheaper off-brand that functions comparably identical with proper care and maintenance than spend extra money just to have a name brand that is reputed to be more sturdy and rigidly made.

#29980 - 03/07/04 06:06 AM Re: God or not god?
Dracul Offline

Registered: 03/07/04
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Loc: Romania
I'd go for power, for the king of the hill kind of life. A quiet life in a forest cottage is not for me.
But I think the king of the hill life is more an utopia than the quiet life. I will always fight for more power, wisdom, money and stuff but I will never have it all.
Anyway the ultimate power thing is immposible to achieve, and it would also be to borring (after achieving it) to use it.
Because after you have everything, there is nothing left to have or do what's left is to die(give it away). ...because soon enough you will get tired of it.
The fun part, the part is worths to live for is to try to gain more an more of these power, money, pleasure, control, wisdom but after you have it all ...then what !?
As for world domination - that's an utopia ...there will always be many against you.

I am for the modern gadgets as satanism is for the "developement of humankind and man's brains" as you stated.
"Liberate Tuteme Ex Inferis!"

#29981 - 03/07/04 08:42 AM Re: God or not god?
sCara Offline

Registered: 08/22/03
Posts: 1223

I choose to always be as independent and driven by my own will as is possible and realistic for my own satisfaction.

#29982 - 03/07/04 01:48 PM Re: God or not god? [Re: Old_Pig]
Satanya Offline

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I would choose the small forest gottage... as long as there is high speed internet connection and it's at least inside the range of one Pizza delivery service.

I second that.

#29983 - 03/08/04 06:58 AM Re: God or not god?

This was only a hypothetical question, meaning WHAT IF you only had two choices. They are both extremes, but it is possible to live your life really poorly, or to become really powerful almost by accident. The latter usually requires a little more work, though, but can be achieved novadays by, for example, starting and running a multinational corporation.

#29984 - 03/14/04 12:08 PM Re: God or not god?
RustySpring Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
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I would, without doubt, pick the 'King of the world' option.

As Mason_Rust stated, with this option - you can have it both ways!

Moreover, without aspirations, things to work for and goals to achieve, I'd get very fed-up, very quickly, no matter how enjoyable the initial happiness of the 'simple life' may be.

#29985 - 03/14/04 11:29 PM Re: God or not god?

As long as everything is quiet at 5am (unlike reality ), I'll take the cottage.

#29986 - 03/15/04 09:39 AM King... and a question.
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Registered: 07/09/02
Posts: 363
Loc: Lima, Perú
I'd go for the King of the Mountain.
First it would give me happiness. And then it would give me the power to defend that happiness and all that is dear to me from powerful adversaries who would like to take it away from me. And maybe it would give me the means to increase my happiness... Taking it away from others?
Could be.

A question for you, Perkele: What does "Suomi Finland Perkele" mean?
Cannibal Spirit "I am my enemy"

#29987 - 03/15/04 04:44 PM Re: God or not god?
evil Offline

Registered: 05/20/02
Posts: 249
Loc: Ontario,Ca (california not can...
I think I would choose to play God. The one who is playing God now isnt doing a good job so what else have I got to lose. I cant do worse then it.

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