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#301568 - 01/26/08 11:12 AM Searching, Seeking, Looking For
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I've noticed a number of people that are looking for something. They endlessly search and search and search but Never find it. They Never will either. Why? Because they don't know what they are looking for.

If you know what you want then the search is over and you can fly straight to the heart of the matter without wandering befuddled in an endless maze.
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#301592 - 01/26/08 02:42 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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I find it funny that some people need to find answers on a discussion forum instead of looking for proper sources outside of it.

I find that one's capability of finding information defines one's character almost too well.

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#301595 - 01/26/08 03:09 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Philotechnic]
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 Originally Posted By: Wolf Landon

I find that one's capability of finding information defines one's character almost too well.


I agree with you completely. I've known people who would always want answers given to them. They were to lazy to go and find out for themselves.

I've also noticed some posts on here are asking what we would do, or did I do the right thing. For someone to need this reassurance shows weakness. If you are doubting your actions you need to take the time and look things over. Instead of asking others for their approval.

Those who do not know what they want in life are usually spending time worrying about others needs. Either that or they are simply looking at what others want and say they feel the same.
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#301603 - 01/26/08 03:39 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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I went into an ice cream parlour once not knowing what flavour I wanted. I mean, I could have gotten vanilla. I always get vanilla. It's good and it would have satisfied me. But instead I took about half an hour to look at all of the weirdo flavours. Bubblegum cotton candy tooth decay, and peanut butter chocolate chip cookie dough cake, and swirly rainbow hippy acid trip. All kinds of stuff I had never even heard of before. Ended up getting black walnut something or other. And it was really good!

The search doesn't have to be a bad thing. I don't know why everyone is always in such a hurry. I mean sometimes you'll find things you didn't even know you were looking for. But that's coming from someone who makes ice cream metaphors so...
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#301607 - 01/26/08 04:13 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shade]
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 Originally Posted By: Shade
I went into an ice cream parlour once not knowing what flavour I wanted.


Now that's what I call a sticky situation.

/Southpark

Indeed, it seems that a lot of people go directly from their introduction into asking lots of questions that, with a little more research, they'd either find are already answered or not quite as good questions as they might have thought. There are also the "please validate my decision/viewpoint" discussion threads which I don't find that interesting. What's the point sitting around discussing something so completely subjective and inaccessible to others?


Edited by Scion (01/26/08 04:14 PM)
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#301611 - 01/26/08 04:44 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Scion]
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 Originally Posted By: Scion
Now that's what I call a sticky situation.




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There are also the "please validate my decision/viewpoint" discussion threads which I don't find that interesting.


So....you don't think I should start a thread titled, "I like vanilla but is it more Satanic to eat black walnut?"?
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'Tween pavement and stars is the chimney sweep world
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#301621 - 01/26/08 05:50 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shade]
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"hippy acid trip" whoa... just curious. from where did you buy your ice-cream?
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#301639 - 01/26/08 07:49 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shade]
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So....you don't think I should start a thread titled, "I like vanilla but is it more Satanic to eat black walnut?"?


Well that's an easy one girlie, everyone knows that plain ol' chocolate is the most Satanic ice cream flavor of all! If you read the Satanic Bible with special decoder glasses, you'll notice that "chocolate" is written between ALL the lines.
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#301668 - 01/26/08 09:19 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Poetaster]
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That explains all those midnight cravings for chocolate, or it could have been the fact that "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" was playing in the background.HS!
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#301688 - 01/27/08 01:05 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Poetaster]
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Damn it, i've been eating the double fudge all this time!

What colour shoes should I wear to my job interview?

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#301712 - 01/27/08 04:30 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Adveser]
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 Originally Posted By: Adveser
What colour shoes should I wear to my job interview?


A newb question indeed, and the answer most new Satanists would probably come up with is "black" because they don't know any better. Of course for those of us that have actually summoned Satan and talked such matters through with him, we know that his favourite colour is tope. Therefore you should wear tope coloured shoes.
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#301714 - 01/27/08 04:42 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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I scoured flea markets for Turkish coffee pots several years ago. My search led to two of them.

The admen of Madison Avenue prey on people searching for that unknown something. They love people who might be happy if they could only find/get/have .

Are you thinking of anything specific?
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#301715 - 01/27/08 05:06 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: RandomStranger]
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Generally speaking, both here on the forums and noticeably more so in my interactions with the public. It is just a little something that I have observed that I thought I would bring to light.

Personally I would find it maddening to be on the search for something and not know what it is.

Take my path to Satanism for example. I knew I needed a concrete, diamond studded, reinforced steel philosophy to hang my hat on. I read through a lot of shit text until I found the works of Anton LaVey.

Had I not known that I needed religion then it would have been frustrating to say the least. In fact I just can't wrap my head around the idea that one is searching for something but has no clue what they are looking for.
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#302294 - 01/29/08 07:50 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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Well, think about how you felt before you found Satanism. I'm sure when you were attempting to find a proper religion and belief system that fit you well you felt a bit on the lost side. You knew you needed something Tangible, but didn't realize till you read the texts exactly what it was.

So basically, you're just noticing people who haven't found their version of "It" yet, whether it be their car keys, that perfect so and so, or a major philosophical belief system to stand doubtless with on all accounts. \:\)
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#302297 - 01/29/08 08:12 PM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shegeek]
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 Originally Posted By: HoundDog
I've noticed a number of people that are looking for something. They endlessly search and search and search but Never find it. They Never will either. Why? Because they don't know what they are looking for.


I tend not to care unless it is someone where the feelings of caring are mutual. If it is someone i value, i'll ask what they're looking for. If they say they don't know, I'll say that i cant help them and leave it at that. I don't waste my precious emotions on people who do not matter to me.

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#302340 - 01/30/08 01:03 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shegeek]
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Well, think about how you felt before you found Satanism. I'm sure when you were attempting to find a proper religion and belief system that fit you well you felt a bit on the lost side. You knew you needed something Tangible, but didn't realize till you read the texts exactly what it was.


That doesn't really describe my experience, though. I wasn't "searching" for squat. I knew I qualified as an atheist (though not exactly a humanist) and I was aware that my brain worked a little differently than it seemed most people's did. And I was fine with that -- I was happy enough doing my own thing. When I stumbled across Satanism (quite randomly) some years ago, it certainly wasn't out of any Search for Deep Truths.

If I'd never discovered Satanism, I don't think I'd be facing down any great spiritual Emptiness now, either. I'm very glad that I DID discover it, of course, but I'm sure that off in the Mirror Universe where Spock has a beard and Chess never heard of Satanism, my counterpart is doing just fine anyway.

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#302350 - 01/30/08 03:47 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Chess]
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I'd echo what Chess says as that sums up my position fairly precisely. My experience of encountering Satanism was not a "I was lost but now am found" feeling but a recognition of a belief system that I already held and practised. It is the people who latch onto Satanism as a religion that one can "join" because they're looking for "something" who most probably then start evangelising it, declaring their hatred for Christians and sporting the biggest, baddest Baphomets they can get their hands on (none of which are necessary or, indeed, particularly encouraged).

They also post here with endless lists of questions, most of which the rest of us just don't feel the need to either ask or even seriously engage with.
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#302355 - 01/30/08 04:49 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shade]
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 Originally Posted By: Shade
I went into an ice cream parlour once not knowing what flavour I wanted. I mean, I could have gotten vanilla. I always get vanilla. It's good and it would have satisfied me. But instead I took about half an hour to look at all of the weirdo flavours. Bubblegum cotton candy tooth decay, and peanut butter chocolate chip cookie dough cake, and swirly rainbow hippy acid trip. All kinds of stuff I had never even heard of before. Ended up getting black walnut something or other. And it was really good!

The search doesn't have to be a bad thing. I don't know why everyone is always in such a hurry. I mean sometimes you'll find things you didn't even know you were looking for. But that's coming from someone who makes ice cream metaphors so...


I know this is going to sound too much zen but...
Sometimes the search itself is more valuable than anything you can find, searching, if done properly, may be an act of self transformation and change. Sometimes is important to chase the Grail so you may be forged in the perils of such quest.
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#302363 - 01/30/08 06:55 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Pact_Primeval]
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Searching is one of the best way to increase your knowledge of the unknown, the example of the ice-cream is a perfect example, personally I like Rum and Raise.

Not knowing some thing can be fun, and quite of the journey is half of the fun. So if some people are endlessly searching for some thing "They don't know", they should also be endlessly increasing there knowledge of things unknown to them.

So I don't see a problem in what you are saying. Interest in the unknown is one of the biggest driving factors in humanity, if we don't know how it works, whats its for, we need to search for the answer.


Edited by Woglug (01/30/08 06:56 AM)
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#302367 - 01/30/08 07:26 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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this post sparks a memory of the song "Dynamite Walls" by the artist Hayden....It doesn't matter because it not even there.
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#302369 - 01/30/08 07:33 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Shade]
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I have always taken mint chocolate chip first. Can't say why.
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#302377 - 01/30/08 07:53 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: StabAvery]
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I think that there are a lot of examples of when people dont allow themselves to comfortably search. Relationships for example, people always seem to act hasty, and date whatever comes to them.

Maybe its the fear of being alone that drives people not to slow down and really look at someone.

Not me though, I went on an endless amounts of dates before I found my boyfriend, and I mean endless. In one summer I think I went on at least 60 different first dates.
Funny, though, I only had one second date, and that was the last one!
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#302381 - 01/30/08 08:22 AM Re: Searching, Seeking, Looking For [Re: Chess]
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Chess, I'm fairly similar to you in that area. That's sort of why I replied to Hound Dog here. Some people's not knowing what they're looking for are other people's not really feeling particularly interested in finding anything to latch onto, or having some sort of light bulb moment when they do. Since I was raised Athiest, discovering the Satanic bible to me was sort of a "Well duh" kind of thing. What struck me where the people I knew that were "Practicing" Satanists. Boy did they need the practice, heh.

Everyone has those moments where they go "Huh. Yup. That's pretty much how I feel." Where beforehand it was slightly less defined.
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