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#303388 - 02/02/08 07:40 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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 Originally Posted By: Numitra
-do satanists believe in ghosts??


I wish I did!

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#303390 - 02/02/08 07:49 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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Show me one first.

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#303396 - 02/02/08 09:00 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Pact_Primeval]
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 Originally Posted By: Pact_Primeval
Show me one first.


I don't know if there is any scientificall proof of ghosts, but you know what I mean.. Sometimes people play around with an ouija bord, and strange things happen.. This is something many people witnessed. The answers from the ouija bord are sometimes answers that only the deceiced person would know

Then there are also the ghost-hunters that picked up 'shapes' with infra-red or green or whatever infra- camera's..

some people when clinicaly die , see a sort of light.... and I DONT SPEAK about christianity or any other religion, I DONTTTTT follow dogma's, but those findings are very strange, don't you think?

Now what I WANT TO KNOW, is: Do Satanist believe in ghost, or can you be a satanist and have personal believes about these subjects.... (life after death, ghosts... and so one))...


Edited by Numitra (02/02/08 09:01 PM)
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#303397 - 02/02/08 09:11 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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You're placing assumptions on experiences that other people claimed to have.

Have you played with a Quija board?

Have you picked up "'shapes' with infra-red or green or whatever infra- camera's.."?

Have you had any near death experiences?

If you answered no to any of these questions, what would it possibly matter to you what Satanists or any other person on this planet believes?
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#303398 - 02/02/08 09:13 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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 Originally Posted By: Callier
You're placing assumptions on experiences that other people claimed to have.

Have you played with a Quija board?

Have you picked up "'shapes' with infra-red or green or whatever infra- camera's.."?

Have you had any near death experiences?

If you answered no to any of these questions, what would it possibly matter to you what Satanists or any other person on this planet believes?



if it doesn't matter to me, I wouldn't ask the question... I am just curious about the satanist point of view about this phenomenon

with respect..

NUMITRA
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#303400 - 02/02/08 09:22 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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Ghosts donít necessary mean proof of life after death.

I have witnessed phenomena that I canít explain, included the things commonly known ghosts or poltergeist. But I donít see the relationship between these occurrences and the existence of an afterlife.

Just because we havenít found a scientific explanation for something doesnít mean we have jump to conclusions and pull a religious explanation from the hat.

Many people insist that ghosts are proof of the afterlife, but in the same way an Ancient Greek man would mention thunder and lightning as proof of the existence of Zeus.
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#303401 - 02/02/08 09:25 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Old_Pig]
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I understand your point of view.. and it's very logic.. hell, we'll see what happens when we die, the most important is here and now...
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#303405 - 02/02/08 09:37 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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 Originally Posted By: Numitra
I am just curious about the satanist point of view about this phenomenon


But yet you provide any information of your experiences of these things.

If you're trying to come to some conclusion of the existence of ghosts just going by what Satanists believe without even drawing from your own speculations then you're going to be confused.
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#303408 - 02/02/08 09:44 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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I had some minor 'paranormal' experiences, but not enough to say that I really believe ghosts exist... anyway, I get your point.. you are telling me, that I should try to look it out for myself and make my own experiences... and make my own personal conclusion based on my own experiences...

(but maybe, I am going to believe those things don't exist while they do....?)
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#303411 - 02/02/08 10:02 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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If you look up the definitions of the word ghost, the first one defines a spirit of a dead person or a soul. Satanists do not believe in the spiritual. We don't believe in souls.

The second defines faint false images, as you explained earlier of what other people saw in photographs, which are really caused by the optical system of cameras. This however can be logically explained. The former cannot.

Although, the Satanist is always open to things that have yet to be scientifically explained, which people would call "paranormal".
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#303414 - 02/02/08 10:06 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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 Originally Posted By: Callier
If you look up the definitions of the word ghost, the first one defines a spirit of a dead person or a soul. Satanists do not believe in the spiritual. We don't believe in souls.

Although, the Satanist is always open to things that have yet to be scientifically explained, which people would call "paranormal".



this is what I wanted to ear, thanx, NUMITRA
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#303417 - 02/02/08 10:19 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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You're welcome.

I'd suggest for you to read The Satanic Bible again in its entirety.
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#303419 - 02/02/08 10:25 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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 Originally Posted By: Callier
You're welcome.

I'd suggest for you to read The Satanic Bible again in its entirety.


I agree, the time I read it, I was very very tired, to the point of falling asleep.. maybe therefore I missed some info..

I will carefully read the satanic bible again... If I have any questions, I won't be shy to ask them... it's by asking we learn ;\)


Edited by Numitra (02/02/08 10:37 PM)
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#303423 - 02/02/08 10:31 PM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Callier]
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 Originally Posted By: Callier


Although, the Satanist is always open to things that have yet to be scientifically explained, which people would call "paranormal".



According to a book called TIME STORMS ghosts were parallel time lines crossing into ours. Used string theory as a basis.
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#303504 - 02/03/08 06:19 AM Re: a few questions from a newb... [Re: Numitra]
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1. Yourself. Reading all the CoS literature will give you much more detailed answers as to what, specifically makes magic happen. Not my place to expose something that is not common knowledge and may be called a secret.

2. Anything that is scientifically possible, see above. Things may be scientifically possible that are not discussed and are rarely explored by science.

3. Not in the sense that are talking about. Death is the end of life for a Satanist.

4. Don't know. Not applicable.

5. I don't.

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