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#303694 - 02/03/08 06:53 PM Satanic Magic
Ganon Offline

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Can anyone recommend to me some books on satanic black magic. Including it's philosophy , physics , and science. As well as LaVeys books on the subject and what he thought on the subject. As well as your opinion on what black magic is and what you think of other books on the subject such as the medieval grimoires that deal with so called black magic for example the grand grimoire and others like it.

#303696 - 02/03/08 07:00 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
RaSc Offline
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What is Satanic Black Magic? I have never heard of such a thing.

#303697 - 02/03/08 07:02 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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Black magic? Black magic? What is this black magic that you speak of?
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#303698 - 02/03/08 07:03 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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You can find a list of Anton LaVey's books on the Church of Satan website.

Further than that - we're not here to do your homework for you.

#303701 - 02/03/08 07:06 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
Ganon Offline

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Satanic black magic is supposedly magic whose source comes from Satan or one of his demons. The tragical history Of Doctor Faustus is a perfect example of satanic black magic

#303702 - 02/03/08 07:08 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
RaSc Offline
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You have done a lot of research since you last posted here.

#303703 - 02/03/08 07:08 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
phoenixrisen Offline

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If I were to play along with the idea of 'black' vs. 'white' magic (which I don't, but for the purposes of this post...), I suppose 'white magic' is that which goes under the banner of Harm none (or something similar) where 'black magic' places no such restrictions.

HOWEVER, magic is just magic. It is a tool that you can use however you please. I probably wouldn't pick up a book that claimed to be on the subject of 'black magic'.

I don't claim to be an expert on the subject. What I have written above is what I have understood from reading The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Witch. Maybe you should read those.

Edited by phoenixrisen (02/03/08 07:09 PM)
Edit Reason: I just read your introduction and I wish I hadn't bothered to reply.
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#303713 - 02/03/08 07:42 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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The Satanic Bible, which you apparently have never read, would be the best place to start. Read it cover to cover. Next you should read The Satanic Rituals, again cover to cover.

Buy the books. Online versions frequently contain errors and omissions.

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#303714 - 02/03/08 07:42 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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I have a question for you sir. Do you usually ask a question of someone or in this case an entire message board and then not recieve the answers you are looking for and then pose the same question three years later on the same message board and expect to get different results?

If you can not find the answers for yourself with in that kind of time frame you are perhaps the laziest person on earth, either that or you are just plain stupid!
Hail Satan~


#303729 - 02/03/08 08:08 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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Five locked threads in four years, and still not banned.

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#303731 - 02/03/08 08:18 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
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 Originally Posted By: Ganon
Satanic black magic is supposedly magic whose source comes from Satan or one of his demons. The tragical history Of Doctor Faustus is a perfect example of satanic black magic

I don't know... but I think the tragical history Of Doctor Faustus is a perfect example of fiction.

I recommend you not to waste your time with old grimories or ancient magic tomes, they are just fantasies created by bored minds. If you want to practice Satanic magic, go straight to the source which is the books written by Anton LaVey.
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#303733 - 02/03/08 08:22 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Old_Pig]
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It's said that posting here very little is a wise idea...spending more time studying and reading to achieve understanding.

But after four years, not even enough knowledge to know that there is no black or white magic in Satanism?


#303735 - 02/03/08 08:29 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: RaSc]
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#303739 - 02/03/08 08:40 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
Phineas Offline
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Go back to sleep.
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#303752 - 02/03/08 09:25 PM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: phoenixrisen]
Barb Offline

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 Originally Posted By: phoenixrisen

[...]The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Witch. Maybe you should read those.

Yes, you should definitely start with reading those, if you haven't already.

And I would like to add that Magus Gilmore’s essay called “The Magic of Mastery”, in The Satanic Scriptures, has also been very helpful for me.

There is no black magic or white magic in Satanism. Don’t read those grimoires; they’re a waste of time, and they don’t explain anything you need to know in regards to what Satanic magic is about.

And if you want some real Satanic magic in your reality, then you probably won't want to waste time.

In Satanism, there is Greater Magic (also termed “Intellectual Decompression”), and there is Lesser Magic. For me, real Satanic magic comes in utilizing both of these, and doing productive things in the real world, while including the five ingredients as explained in The Satanic Bible.

Edited by Swordoflightning (02/03/08 09:33 PM)
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#303780 - 02/03/08 11:04 PM Suggestion. [Re: Ganon]
Nemo Offline
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I would suggest you read my next book but it isn't written yet.

In the meantime, you should actually read The Satanic Bible and The Satanic Scriptures where these topics are carfully defined and explained.

You will also then better understand why so many of the terms you have used here are viewed by Satanists as incorrect.

#303831 - 02/04/08 08:50 AM Re: Satanic Magic [Re: Ganon]
Max Faust Offline

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 Originally Posted By: Ganon
The tragical history Of Doctor Faustus

Ah my favourite!

I prefer Christopher Marlowe's version, but Goethe is okay.

However, that has got fuck all to do with magic as such, which originally was called "black" only insofar it was originated in Egypt (or Khemt (= The Black Country) as the Egyptians themselves called it). I am uncertain if there ever was a real "white" magic until the Age of Dichotomies came to be - perhaps something of Sumeria or India? - but I have not seen any evidence of it in any source material so far. It seems to be only some superstitious, modern nonsense created by "new age" hippies with an agenda of personal vanity, of looking good and being all clean and pure and white and stuff.

It may perhaps be worth remembering that the word "al-chemia" is the determinitive (sp?) form of the Arabic word for "black", i.e. what is of Egyptian origin. Then there is CULT, from "occulted", which simply means that which is hidden, i.e. outside of what language and reason can grasp. It simply refers to people who are studying "surrealistic" issues that defies linguinistic description, connected with the subconcious and chtonic minds, usually expressed in more or less strange rituals and ceremonies, and the possible utilitarian value of being knowledgeable about these. Much of it is just for the kick of it as well, much like sex is a kick.

There is a lot of superstition hiding at the borders between the conscious and the subconscious realities of the mind. PLEASE do bear in mind that this is synonymous to the mental paranthesis which occurs at the moment right before you fall asleep, or right as you are waking up, when you are floating between the worlds as ancient "shamanism" would call it. Strange images are only your mind trying to make sense of an influx of energy that is allowed because of intersecting matrices.

I personally consider concepts such as "Satanic Black Magic" to be absurd. It is like speaking of "Hungarian Gray Butterflies". Please limit the use of adjectives. There is no need to further obscure something which is already hard to comprehend - but as a general rule of thumb, we can safely say that all "magic" is about learning how to effectively know and utilise the awareness of the human form - and the extent to which that is "Satanic" is a question to what extent you will believe in the hype, buy the crap, or whatever you English call it. Satanists will typically be prone to skepticism and a fierce focus on what works rather that what looks pretty - and they will of course be interested in learning about all ways to make better use of own mind, body and time of life.

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