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#30465 - 03/09/04 12:19 PM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: Max Rose]
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I realized that it was silly to try and avoid 'helping my enemies' as it is a pointless battle. My $8 isn't going to count for anything when compared to the millions that Mel is going to be making off of this flick. The fact that I enjoyed it is all that really matters.





This is my exact mentality in going to see this movie today. I really want to see it. I was raised hearing Christian Mythology most of my young life and I will admit, the stories hold a special place in my heart.

I also didn't want to contribute $8.00 to Mr. Gibson's cause and this insane religion. But One less person going to see it isn't going to change anything.

Besides, I'm a Satanist. Nothing is going to stop me from doing something that I really want to do.
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#30466 - 03/09/04 01:19 PM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: CPayne]
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>People that refuse to watch movies like The Passion just
>because it's a Christian flick remind me of people that
>refuse to listen to Brittany Spears just because she's
>popular.

You know, sometimes I wonder which is the more ridiculous trend: screaming over the latest pop sensation, or screaming about how much one supposedly hates that star.

This love-to-hate-them phenomenon isn't new either. This always seems to happen whenever a big-selling "bubble gum" act hits the scene. Pat Boone, The Monkees, New Kids On The Block, The Spice Girls -- when they were big, saying that you hated them was the "cool" thing to do.
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#30467 - 03/09/04 01:54 PM On Britney... [Re: Bill_M]
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You know, it's interesting - Britney, specifically, has become an 'icon' for all that is superficial, vaccuous, transient, fake and market driven in music and culture. Her recent quickie marriage only amplified that. She's now also become a popular punch line in the 'supposed sanctity of traditional heterosexual marriage" argument.

She can be used as a vaguely humorous example in so many scenarios, that it's being overdone to an unfair extent. After all, she's not much different than so many of her peers - and yet she's probably the most targeted. She really doesn't deserve it.

[*everyone now...* "Poor Britney."]

"At least it's not 'Britney Spears' (or something stupid like that)" just seems to roll off of people's tongues. I've made a conscious effort recently to avoid using her name in this fashion. She's just another bubble gum starlet - she's not personally responsible for 'the decline of western civilization as we know it', after all.

I can find 100 equally vaccuous, confused, self exploiting little blond chicks if I just walk over to UCLA. Britney is neither good, nor bad. She simply exists. If anything, I blame those who follow her every move and perpetuate purient interest in her for her unusually long stay in the spotlight.

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#30468 - 03/09/04 07:29 PM Re: On Britney... [Re: Rev_Malebranche]
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>She can be used as a vaguely humorous example in so many
>scenarios, that it's being overdone to an unfair extent.

Regardless of how much a certain celebrity "deserves" the ridicule, I just have no tolerance for that form of overdone humor which you describe. Actually, LaVey himself decribed this in one of his essays in Satan Speaks. ("The butts of jokes are no longer selected with carefull deliberation, but are ridiculed en masse.")

OJ Simpson, Bill Clinton, and Michael Jackson are other names that come to mind: one predictable punchline ("he's a killer/pervert/pedophile"), and 1000 stale jokes to deliver it. It gets to the point where people laugh at the jokes solely because we are told (read: programmed) that they're supposed to be funny.
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#30469 - 03/09/04 08:23 PM On Media Manipulation... [Re: Bill_M]
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It gets to the point where people laugh at the jokes solely because we are told (read: programmed) that they're supposed to be funny.

And it is here that professional comedians put bread on their table, and a Lexus in the garage. Bumper sticker, and t-shirt manufacturing line their pockets with the programmable "funny". The media circus is doing a fantastic job at keeping the drones shelling out paychecks for shit they don't need, only to have them throw away their new purchase a week later because "that was so two weeks ago." I consider having the herd suckling at your teets to be a very Satanic, look at how effective it has been thus far.

Step right up! Hurry hurry hurry! Come inside to see the dreaded "wardrobe malfunction!" Feast your eyes on the magnificent...

At the very least, these mass-produced walking billboards provide me with eye candy, for I enjoy seeing a female with certain endowments actually show her goods. Still, I can't help but respect those I see that are original, if for nothing else than being very rare today.

Alas, the golden age of burlesque has been exchanged for hardcore porn with farm animals. Fedoras have been traded for beanies, bandanas, and sideways caps. A 1953 Lincoln Continental (Mmmm...suicide doors) has been swapped for lowrider rice burners, etc. Yet here is an opportunity!

I'll keep my Third Side, go dressed to the nines in my gas-guzzler, sporting my fedora and listening to "old music". I will let pass the jeers and sneers from the collective flock, for I see in their eyes the truth. I see a mind reeling for reason as to why I do what I do, however I choose to do it. I have them fixed, foaming at the loins and mouth simultaneously, and I enjoy every damn minute of it.

Duke Ellington said it best...
What good is melody, what good is music
If it ain't possessin' something sweet
It ain't the melody, it ain't the music
There's something else that makes the tune complete
It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing
It don't mean a thing, all you got to do is sing
It makes no diff'rence if it's sweet or hot
Just give that rhythm ev'rything you got
It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing


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#30470 - 03/11/04 01:05 PM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: J. Hagalaz]
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My opinion is why the hell not!! i have afew P.O.D cd's as well as other CCM music (i once was christian) just because i have found my "True" religion does not mean i have to give up on the stuff i once liked as long as i still like it.

As for "the passion" i havent seen it because it's not out here yet. but i will go when it is, im intrested in the life of jesus, i just don't agree with some of his teachings.

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#30471 - 03/11/04 01:27 PM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: Solomon]
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Excellent post.
I personally am excited to see the film, and I find the christian bible to be a good story (romance, action, and the supernatural, it's all in there). There is no sense in throwing the baby out with the bathwater, just because there are christian undertones, or, in this case, directly based on chrisitan beliefs. I eat Middle Eastern cuisine, yet I am neither Middle Eastern or Muslim. Denying yourself something you'd enjoy for such stupid reasons goes against the basic principals of Satanism.

In the end, it doesn't matter how many Deicide lyrics you've memorized.

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#30472 - 03/11/04 10:11 PM Re: A Common Misconception
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I haven't seen the Passion. I have heard numerous accounts of it though. I am a Satanist. Although I respect Christianity and flow with it rather then fight it. I have heard some good Christian tunes from time to time although as the old saying goes, " the Devil has always had the best tunes."

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#30473 - 03/12/04 02:17 AM Re: A Common Misconception
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im intrested in the life of jesus, i just don't agree with some of his teachings.



What about his supposed life interests you? If you do not agree with some of his supposed teachings, does this mean that you DO agree with others? If so, which ones and why?
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#30474 - 03/12/04 04:17 AM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: Solomon]
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I have not seen the movie ...but I look forwrad to see it as I've heard that it is a good movie ...but no more than that.
I also like Lord of the Rings ...but that doesn't mean that I belive in Gandalf.

So, if you're a satanist and want to see the movie ...just do it ...that doesn't mean that you'll have to agree with Jesus on something.

The satanist is anti-xtian but only in the true meaning of the word "anti".
Is is a common misconception that "anti" realy means against even if nowadays it is used like this. This word comes from a greek word and it means "to replace".
So anti-xtian actualy means "to replace xtianity" and anti-christ means "the replacer of christ".
I belive that the Satanic Age in LaVey conception is actually the replacement of xtian beliefs with satanism so that more and more people will become satanic (even if some of them will never admit that) ...but not satanists (those are realy born not made).

Well, I think it is as useless to be against xtianity as it is to be for it. But without inventing the "satanists" (fake satanists) how could the xtian church survive for so long and how could it gather people without giving them a common enemy (Satan, the big bad devil).

Now I'm really interested to find out if the xtian conversion rate will grow due to this movie thing. Will there be more people attending to the sunday church just because they've seen the "Passion of Christ"?
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#30475 - 03/12/04 05:01 AM Re: A Common Misconception [Re: Solomon]
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"So, as a Satanist, aren't you supposed to be against this movie, and not see it for those reasons?"



Yes but:
Forgetfullness of past orthodoxies
is a bad thing.
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Do you dare to live life to its fullest? I thought this was just common sense, but it turns out Dr. LaVey was right when he said for some, it is a tall order to fill.




I also thought this was just common sense but I was wrong, this is common sense for us.
We want to live life to the fullest, this is one of the best thing of our religion but if we do not succeed in some circumstances this is not a problem. The bad effect of this behavior had already its bad effect, no further problem.

I can look at everything, I can follow my true nature, I see what satisfies me and what is wrong for me, I look at the behavior of the herd and I understand most of it. I indulge, I have not problems for afterlife.
I am really happy to have discovered Satanism, I was already of course but now I know that I am not alone and this was an strong booster for my life.

Hail Satan!
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#30476 - 03/12/04 05:15 AM Re: A Common Misconception
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I have yet to find anything good about a religion who has murdered millions in the name of their god of "LOVE".
I of course had a 25 yr bad experience with them and although I rarely waste my time thinking about them, when I do It brings back fucked up memories
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#30477 - 03/13/04 02:59 AM Re: A Common Misconception *DELETED* [Re: MagisterParadise]
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#30478 - 03/13/04 03:10 AM Re: A Common Misconception
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Quote:

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im intrested in the life of jesus, i just don't agree with some of his teachings.



What about his supposed life interests you? If you do not agree with some of his supposed teachings, does this mean that you DO agree with others? If so, which ones and why?







(this is the 2nd time i posetd this,since i managed to delet the other)

OK i don't belive in turning the other cheek,i don't belive in loving my enemy, i don't belive in loving everyone,i don't belive in dumping my family to follow a religion.

I do belive however that Jesus did exist and that he did die for man's sin. why do i belive that? it's the onlt 2 things i have never questioned.

I was ashit chrstian,there was to many things that bugged me about religion. I never felt comfertable with it, then i read the satanic bible and suddenly everything made sense,here was a man who was saying what i was thinking,not all the time mind you but 99% of the time

Im not going to apologise for being intrested inJesus life or anyone's life for that matter. christianity made me live my life full of guilt for things's i didn't actully do or for things i cant actully help, im not going to live that way any longer.

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#30479 - 03/13/04 03:44 AM Re: A Common Misconception
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"I do belive however that Jesus did exist and that he did die for man's sin."

What makes you say that? The stories in the xtian bible?
Why would he die for my sin? Why am I a sinner? What is sin and why does it has to be paid by someone's death?
If he paid for something I did, why doesn't he let me know that he did so? Are you a satanist? If so, have you understand the Satanic Bible?

Please answer politely or do not answer at all.
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