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#304765 - 02/07/08 04:07 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: LightAngel]
Darkahn Offline


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 Originally Posted By: LightAngel
 Originally Posted By: Shegeek


Buuut seriously, I think if we all wandered around like cyborgs the world wouldn't be nearly as creative



I agree...


One of the biggest issues I have with Objectivism (from what I've read so far) is that Rand's only problem with Nietzsche was his focus on emotions, whereas she emphasizes (again, from what I have read, and I may be totally wrong overall) pure logic and "reason".

The biggest problem with "throwing out emotion", in theoretical fictions, is that they always lose their ingenuity.

One could argue Tesla threw out the idea of romantic love, from what we know -- but one could equally retort with that his true love seemed to be his work.

To me, it is neither a strength nor weakness, unless taken to an extreme -- and then, whether it is a strength or weakness depends entirely on the situation, and one's perspective.
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#304794 - 02/07/08 06:02 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: Darkahn]
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 Originally Posted By: Darkahn


One of the biggest issues I have with Objectivism (from what I've read so far) is that Rand's only problem with Nietzsche was his focus on emotions, whereas she emphasizes (again, from what I have read, and I may be totally wrong overall) pure logic and "reason".




That's why I like Nietzsche. One thing I appreciate about Rand is that she stated that any decision made contrary to self-interest is unethical.
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#305060 - 02/08/08 09:06 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: LightAngel]
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 Originally Posted By: LightAngel
 Originally Posted By: Shegeek


Buuut seriously, I think if we all wandered around like cyborgs the world wouldn't be nearly as creative



I agree...

Ooh, are all you Danishes as hot as you, or are you just special? Your burning with brimstone.
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#305074 - 02/08/08 10:12 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: Hiram007]
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I think Satanism is changing me for the better.

For example:

I work in a major transportation hub. There are a LOT of homeless. Not the family that's down on their luck, but the smelly hardcore drug addled/psychotic dregs. They are constantly begging for money. I used to feel sorry for them, now it's anger. I told him to take a hike and stared at him until he left. I felt no guilt. I think I'm evolving. Kindness to those who deserve it. I'm tired of leeches.

Hail Satan
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#305078 - 02/08/08 10:26 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: Hiram007]
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 Originally Posted By: Hiram007
Ooh, are all you Danishes as hot as you, or are you just special?


I think you'll find that it's "danes". Danish is a pastry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_pastry

the pastries are pretty hot when they leave the oven though - but mostly brimstone is not an ingredient
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#305094 - 02/09/08 12:29 AM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: Seeker Of Wisdom]
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I know that Satanism embraces emotions unlike the "cold fish" out there, but is there a point where you have to much emotion?


Do you make value judgments based on consequences or intentions? Once you have determined this, the answer should be obvious.
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#305191 - 02/09/08 09:38 AM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: verszou]
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 Originally Posted By: verszou
 Originally Posted By: Hiram007
Ooh, are all you Danishes as hot as you, or are you just special?


I think you'll find that it's "danes". Danish is a pastry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_pastry

the pastries are pretty hot when they leave the oven though - but mostly brimstone is not an ingredient



Thanks for the laugh dear

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#305252 - 02/09/08 01:12 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: Darkahn]
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Pure logic and reason are characteristics of a machine. And the machine does what a machine does, without enjoyment and/or pleasure.

All art for instance, is nothing..... if it has no emotion.

The best comparison here would be a comparison of a painting and a photograph. Although the photograph may be more accurate, reasonable and logical, the painting is the one that has emotional intensity, and that's what gives it an impact.

An artist sees in nature that what is hidden, and captures it – putting the emotions on canvas, and a camera cannot do that.

I don't see how one could be extremely emotional. I see reason and emotions both as an ideal synergy – emotions give reason a meaning, and reason gives emotions protection. How they work together is an entirely different story.

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#305344 - 02/09/08 10:59 PM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: LightAngel]
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I don't see how one could be extremely emotional.


Intense emotions are the key to magic. I personally allow myself to experience my emotions to whatever intensity the moment calls for if I feel it would benefit me. Sometimes it is malevolent anger, sever anguish or the elated ecstasy of happiness. It can be cathartic to experience an emotion so intensely.

When I am out and about among others you couldn't tell that I may have been, just hours before, pacing around in a fervor and untying my emotional knots.

Allowing distractions to divert my attention from my personal needs can result in such an emotional buildup. I find that being creative circumvents buildup and keeps me healthy.
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#305681 - 02/11/08 11:55 AM Re: Is emotion a strength or a weakness? [Re: TheNaturalForce]
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Creativity is definitely a good way to avoid emotional buildups

Through canvas, or words, or by whatever other means – the creator can convey the emotions from her/his heart. And in this way – art is a fantastic phenomenon.......... different emotions give rise to different creations, taking into account, of course, that the artist is putting his or her heart into the art.

In this way, emotions can be sublimed from one form into another, that is why creativity is very healthy.

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