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#30579 - 03/09/04 10:13 AM A rose by any other name?
DavidP Offline
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I always wonder when I see Satanists refrain from using certain words. For example, I often see the word "xtian" instead of "christian". I wonder why some do this, are they too lazy to type the entire word? Are they afraid to use the word, for one reason or another?
(Niether of those traits are very Satanic in my opinion)

No mythologic name or image holds any sort of reverence for me (except in the ritual chamber, and then it's a conscious choice....I could even choose to use my own name if the fancy struck me)

On one site, I even saw the word "xtoid", now even fully spelled out "christoid", this makes no sense to me whatsoever. Is this another created word like "wiccan" that someone is trying to introduce to an already intellectually lacking society and it's pollitically corect vocabulary?

Why should we, as Satanist, worry about possibly offending christians, or especially othr Satanists by using the word "christian"?


Edited by DavidP (03/09/04 10:24 AM)

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#30580 - 03/09/04 10:21 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
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I agree with you, but some Satanists tend to be less bold than others. All I would suggest to you, no offense intended, is to check your spelling. I had a friend that once told me that it was hard to take another persons writing seriously if it is not correct.
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#30581 - 03/09/04 10:23 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: Mr_Scary]
DavidP Offline
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My mistake...I have been awake for 27 hours, just came off a long nights work and wanted to get the stuff down before i went to bed.

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#30582 - 03/09/04 11:00 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
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How is being lazy "un-Satanic" when Sloth is one of the 7 virtues by which one should enjoy life?
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#30583 - 03/09/04 11:06 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: RobertE]
DavidP Offline
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Lazy can equal stupid when the material to learn has been around since 1968, and the person doesn't take the time to read about what they are pretending to be.

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#30584 - 03/09/04 11:22 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
Drake_Bamboozle Offline
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>>material to learn has been around since 1968<<

Why? What exactly happened in 1968 then, Mr DavidP?

I mean apart from "2001 - A Space Odyssey" and the assassinations of Martin Luther and Robert Kennedy.

What is it specifically that happened in this year are you refering to?
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#30585 - 03/09/04 11:29 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
sCara Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
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Quote:

Why should we, as Satanist, worry about possibly offending christians, or especially othr Satanists by using the word "christian"?




I don't think some type Christian as Xtian because they are "afraid of possibly offending" anyone. I think most mean it as a blatant offense. One way to see it is that there is a big bold X (as in crossing something out} there. I personally just type Christian. I have been known to type XXXmas, however, as that gives a clearer description of how I approach said holiday..

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#30586 - 03/09/04 11:30 AM The Most Important Event in History!!! [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Mr. Mullah,

He must be referring to my birth in the year 1968!!! I must be his idol.


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#30587 - 03/09/04 11:35 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
sCara Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
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Lazy can equal stupid..




By using can, you will surely agree that this is but one interpretation.

What I think RobertE means is that the so-called Seven Deadly Sins are more of a checks and balances for the Satanist.

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#30588 - 03/09/04 11:55 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
DavidP Offline
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okay....1969.

My point still stands.

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#30589 - 03/09/04 11:56 AM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
sCara Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
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Quote:

My point still stands.




How?

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#30590 - 03/09/04 12:03 PM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
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That's just a mater of personal tastes. I don't like to use that kind of abbreviations, because I like to call things by their names. I always spell Christian, Christmas...

I must also say this way to speak is not unique of Satanists (or even pseudo-Satanists) Christians themselves use the abbreviated form "Marry Xmas" in greeting cards and they don't intend it as offensive.

Also, the most important event that happened in 1968, besides the ones mentioned above, was my arrival to this planet.
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#30591 - 03/09/04 12:05 PM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
MagisterRose Offline
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Registered: 05/21/03
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Don't read too much into these things. Xian or Xtian is a contraction for Christian. Nothing more than a way of dropping a few keystrokes while conveying the same idea. Just like Xmas. There is no fear of the word or concern at offending anyone involved.
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#30592 - 03/09/04 12:34 PM Re: A rose by any other name? [Re: DavidP]
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Some people have a sense of humor.
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#30593 - 03/09/04 12:46 PM The pope says... [Re: DavidP]
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...its OK! X corresponds with the Greek letter kristos if I'm not mistaken it therefore fits. Besides as I said the pope says its ok, he has even used it on occasion as shorthand. Another thing Satanists think is Satanic is really Christian or Xian is the inverted cross. St. Peter didn't want to be crucified right side up or so the story goes because he felt it would be an affront to Jesus. So they did him upside down. If you take a close look at the pope's chair, you'll see an inverted cross on it. Thats why many American Xian sects see catholics as not Xian because they don't know any better.
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