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#334895 - 06/19/08 08:06 AM Einsteinian Religion
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Would it be appropriate to refer to Satanism as an Einsteinian Religion?

As Richard Dawkin's said at one his lectures it is against all supernatural gods. Thus it would simplify a discussion with someone on why Satanism is a called a religion. With a simple answer of "it's an Einsteinian Religion". To my limited knowledge the first organized one of its kind.

Satanism, the first Einsteinian religion.

Has a nice ring to it, eh? I don't know if I'm the first one to ponder that or not. Do you think that's appropriate and fitting?

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#334896 - 06/19/08 08:32 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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It has already been named.

It is simply Satanism.

No, you are not the first person to suggest all manner of hoo haa.

Many a misinformed and misguided internet user has proffered all manner of unnecessary crap.

So no, it hasn't any kind of ring to it at all.
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#334901 - 06/19/08 08:39 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Drake_Bamboozle]
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Actually, it's a religion unless I read The Satanic Bible and some sort of dyslexia got in the way. I'm not suggesting Satanism to be anything than it is. I'm saying if the glove fits then the proper stratification of Satanism as a Religion would be Einsteinian Religion.

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#334902 - 06/19/08 08:41 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Originally Posted By: FalloutGod
I'm saying if the glove fits then the proper stratification of Satanism as a Religion would be Einsteinian Religion.


That doesn't even make any sense, do you even know what the word "stratification" means?

I think the word you are looking for is "designation."
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#334903 - 06/19/08 08:43 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Svengali]
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How is Einstein a theist?

Also this a terrible example of a straw man argument. What does his political affiliation have to do with the question at hand.

Perhaps to clarify you need to watch this.


Once again, the question is clear. If Einsteinian religion encompasses non-theism then Satanism would fall into that category. Correct?

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#334905 - 06/19/08 08:47 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Svengali]
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My bad, I thought stratification would fit in context. So yes, designation if you mean that by classification. But lets not go too far into semantics here.

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#334906 - 06/19/08 08:51 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Einstein was highly influenced by and an advocate of the bhagavad gita.

Socialism is anti-Satanic. Socialism praises the collective, and punishes the individual, especially ones dare be successful. The individual serves the collective. The worthless are championed and leach from the productive.

Satanism is a religion of fierce individuality. It is the opposite of socialism.

Not go into semantics? Words have precise meanings. If you cannot command the language, perhaps it is time to go back to school.


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#334912 - 06/19/08 08:58 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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I suggest you actually read Einstein's essays instead of watching videos on youtube.

I also suggest investing in a dictionary.
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#334913 - 06/19/08 09:00 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Phineas]
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That is understandable and I agree. In this case lets get into the semantics of "Einsteinian Religion". Since there is a clear misunderstanding and intentional and/or non-intentional misconstruction of my question.

Since there are a number of different theistic ideas relating to the nature of God(s), Dawkins defines the concept of God that he wishes to address early in the book. He coins the term "Einsteinian religion", referring to Einstein's use of "God", as a metaphor for nature or the mysteries of the universe.[12] He makes a distinction between this "Einsteinian religion" and the general theistic idea of God as the creator of the universe who should be worshipped.[13] This becomes an important theme in the book, which he calls the God Hypothesis.[14] He maintains that this idea of God is a valid hypothesis, having effects in the physical universe, and like any other hypothesis can be tested and falsified.[15] Thus, Dawkins rejects the common view that science and religion rule over non-overlapping magisteria.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion

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#334914 - 06/19/08 09:00 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Originally Posted By: FalloutGod
My bad, I thought stratification would fit in context. So yes, designation if you mean that by classification. But lets not go too far into semantics here.


It is not going "too far into semantics" to point out your incompetent use of vocabulary.

Stratification is a key word in Satanism. You don't even know what it means yet you have the arrogance to suggest changes to the religion.

Go away.
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"As for wars, well, there's only been 268 years out of the last 3421 in which there were no wars. So war, too, is in the normal course of events." -- Will Durant.
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#334916 - 06/19/08 09:03 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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So "lets not get into semantics" is your stock-reply whenever someone points out that you have no idea what you are talking about?
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"I may have my faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." -- Jimmy Hoffa
"As for wars, well, there's only been 268 years out of the last 3421 in which there were no wars. So war, too, is in the normal course of events." -- Will Durant.
"Satanism is the worship of life, not a hypocritical, whitewashed vision of life, but life as it really is." -- Anton Szandor LaVey
A membership ticket in this party does not confer genius on the holder. -- Benito Mussolini
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#334919 - 06/19/08 09:04 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Svengali]
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Thank you for the suggestion, Magister.

I would suggest you keep up with the news.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/may/15/peopleinscience.controversiesinscience

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#334920 - 06/19/08 09:06 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Svengali]
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Suggest changes to the religion? It is fine the way it is. Do you practice selective reading or is this something personal?

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#334921 - 06/19/08 09:10 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Originally Posted By: FalloutGod


I would suggest you keep up with the news.





I suggest you look at Einstein's entire life. He was opposed to Judeo-Xtian beliefs.

Bottom line: Satanism is Satanism. Your point is baseless.
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#334922 - 06/19/08 09:11 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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That is good.

Now if they find a letter where he similarly debunks egalitarian socialism, he might warrant more respect outside of the narrow field of physics.
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"I may have my faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." -- Jimmy Hoffa
"As for wars, well, there's only been 268 years out of the last 3421 in which there were no wars. So war, too, is in the normal course of events." -- Will Durant.
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#334923 - 06/19/08 09:13 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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It is probably personal.
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"I may have my faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." -- Jimmy Hoffa
"As for wars, well, there's only been 268 years out of the last 3421 in which there were no wars. So war, too, is in the normal course of events." -- Will Durant.
"Satanism is the worship of life, not a hypocritical, whitewashed vision of life, but life as it really is." -- Anton Szandor LaVey
A membership ticket in this party does not confer genius on the holder. -- Benito Mussolini
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#334925 - 06/19/08 09:25 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Phineas]
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So you are saying it's not a Religion? Therefore it could not fall under the term of an "Einsteinian Religion" as defined by Richard Dawkins?

EDIT: Also I'm quite aware of his entire life. Not in dramatic detail but enough to know this. Thanks though.


Edited by FalloutGod (06/19/08 09:28 AM)

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#334926 - 06/19/08 09:28 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Bye-bye.
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#334927 - 06/19/08 09:29 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: Phineas]
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Thanks?

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#334929 - 06/19/08 09:33 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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You are welcome.
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#334939 - 06/19/08 10:30 AM Re: Einsteinian Religion [Re: FalloutGod]
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Originally Posted By: FalloutGod
Actually, it's a religion unless I read The Satanic Bible and some sort of dyslexia got in the way. I'm not suggesting Satanism to be anything than it is. I'm saying if the glove fits then the proper stratification of Satanism as a Religion would be Einsteinian Religion.


Just go away, you crusty botch of nature.
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