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#343017 - 07/31/08 01:00 PM An introduction, though it is no longer required.
Foris Offline


Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Under normal circumstances, I'm sure many people start by saying hello. Never one to do things that would add to a continuous chorus to be drowned out by it's own repetition, I will start by making a rather pointless analysis of starting by saying hello. That aside... Hello, everyone.

We're apparently not supposed to post full names, if I remember the rules correctly. Fortunately, my name is common. My name is Matt. I live in Ohio, which is a state that seems to be filled with people who are ready to make claims they can never live up to. For instance, the high school I went to two or so years ago constantly claimed to be the best district in Ohio. Meanwhile, nearby districts all made the same claim. It's ridiculous to make a grand sweeping claim like "We're the best school district! Don't mind the fact that we aren't going to explain why."

Growing up in a state so deeply entrenched in ignorance, one would think the students would be destined for stupidity. One would be mostly right. But there were a few, like myself, that looked in from the outside. I often wondered how anyone could fail to use their human minds, which were supposedly superior minds(In comparison to apes) so greatly as to act in a manner that would embarrass even the lowliest of chimps. Growing up, I was treated fairly poorly by my peers. My jokes and rebuttals to their insults often went over their heads, and they would counter with a truly witty response like "You're dumb, man!"

Eventually, I began to meet other intelligent people, usually foreign, who weren't so obnoxious. Yet, even they had deep problems... For they were constantly absorbed in the teachings and rules of a magical invisible man in the sky called god. I had been atheist since the age of six... the idiocy of god and his supposed personal quotes(Isn't it odd to them how god always has views that help whatever church he's representing at any given time?) having gotten embedded into the minds of intellectuals was truly perplexing. Another tendency of seemingly smart people was to still settle on truly moronic mates... If you hate these traits in your fellows, then why wouldn't you hate them in your mates? That was when I realized... they just weren't intellectual enough... they were still being fooled by morons waving ancient books written by superstitious madmen.

I began looking into Satanism just this year. It was then that I realized that all this time, the reason I didn't fall into the realm of most atheists... the reason I didn't share all the same views with any other group... was because I was not an atheist all that time... Unbeknownst to me, I had been a Satanist... Everything that was written in the Satanic Bible... were things I already thought.(Except the book of leviathan, which one obviously couldn't have previously thought... they were rituals of someone elses design, after all.)

So I scooped up the Satanic Bible and the Satanic Rituals at my local Barnes and Noble. Sadly, there aren't copies of the Satanic witch, or the Satanic Scriptures there.

I am going to get a better job than working lumber in my fathers business in the coming winter, so that I can purchase my membership.

Oh, by the way, I am generally interested in the subjects of zoology and drawing. My home is filled with my animals(four dogs, a cat, three turtles, a ball python, a red rat snake, a leopard gecko, a king snake, and a pair of mice who breed babies for the rat snake and king snake). I am passionate about wildlife, and volunteer at a local shelter for injured birds of prey regularly. I generally enjoy manual labor, as it feels like things are definitely getting done when your work is moving things around.

WOW, that was lengthy. At least I'm sure this is one place on the internet where people arent going to just post "TOO LONG DIDNT READ LOLOLOL"

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#343024 - 07/31/08 01:41 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
Giovanni Offline

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That was a great introduction!

Welcome to LttD!

Hail Satan!

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#343032 - 07/31/08 02:19 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
Emerald Offline



Registered: 07/05/08
Posts: 97
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
Howdy neighbor (I hail from Ohio as well),

Welcome to the forum. I thoroughly enjoyed reading your introduction. My husband and I run a small zoo out of our home as well though we are on a much smaller scale than you. Three indoor cats, three outdoor cats, and a dog. Hubby is a veterinary technician and we are continually fostering and rescuing animals as well.

I have recently (within the last year and a half or so) "discovered" that I am a Satanist as well although I "pretended" to be Christian and then Wiccan for many years. Still in the recovery stages of being Wiccan (hehe...just kidding)

If you are still in the market for The Satanic Witch, I found a copy of it (of all places) at a WaldenBooks in Newark which is about 45 minutes east of Columbus. Also, Amazon is a great place to get new and used copies for a very reasonable price.

Good luck on your job hunting and welcome to the forum. May your stay here be as enlightening for you as it has been for me.
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#343035 - 07/31/08 02:39 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Registered: 10/15/07
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TOO LONG DIDNT READ LOLOLOL

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!

Ahem

I mean, welcome to LTTD! grin

HS!
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#343091 - 07/31/08 09:59 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Scion]
Foris Offline


Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Hello, fellow Ohioan. and hello to you, guy with a blurred human in his avatar.

As you may have read, I didn't really dabble in religion. on july 4th of the sixth year of my life, I discarded belief in god(due to the fact that nothing the psychotic christians around me said seemed ro be true. Especially when tested).

I later solidified this further by discarding almost all the superstitious claims of others as being on par with santy-clause and the bogey man.

Michael chrichton, for instance, claims in his own autobiography to be posessed by a beatle, a tiny man dressed in green, and a demon. He goes on to explain of talking cacti, kundalini energy, and nameless fortune-teller saviors, I could not believe my eyes. To think I actually thought him to be truely intelligent. though his books have pages of scientific sources... He was as easily fooled by so-called spiritual guides as the rest.

One other thing you'll find is that I watch VERY few movies and read almost no popular books or book series'. This is because I tend to despise the ideals that invariably wiggle their way in.

So yeah my spiritual journey was simple: told I was christian for 6 years-Decided that I indeed was not-started calling myself atheist for lack of a better description-read the Satanic bible and recognized that I was a Satanist.

Here's a tidbit of interest to me: Why do so many people like to call themselves "Christian, but I also believe BLAH" or "Bhuddist, except BLAH" or "Hindu, but I think BLAH"? Why the need for personnal editation? If the believers of a religion(or faith as they call it) must disreguard portions of that faith to accomodate for their human tendecies.... then its not really faith, is it? How can one believe a mysterious guy who looks just like every human(somehow) created the universe... but simultaneously decide that no, you dont want to go to hell for fucking multiple partners, so you'll just decide that parts not relevent in the new age. No. You're a sinner according to your religion. If you're making edits to suit your nature, then you're not a christian. Deal with it.

These kinds of fools abound in ohio... Mix-and-match believers is what I call them. I dislike them muchly.


Edited by Foris (07/31/08 10:00 PM)

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#343173 - 08/01/08 08:51 AM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Registered: 07/05/08
Posts: 97
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
You've noticed that too? Not sure what part of the state you are in but in the Central Ohio/Newark area these type of people abound in crazy numbers. You have Christians who don't believe in God but they believe in Jesus--presumably because Jesus was a "real" person who existed on this planet. Then there are "Wicca-Christs" (almost sounds like "hypocrites" to me oddly enough) who believe that Christ was a powerful Shaman or Witch but they don't buy into the traditional dogma of Christianity. Also there are New Agers that believe that God is like a JCPenney catalogue that you petition to for whatever your latest desire is (think of the movie "The Secret").

I would have more respect for people who decide to label themselves with a religion, if they would just follow the dictates of their chosen religion without all the, "I believe this part but I don't accept this part" statements of their faith. Seems like utter hypocrisy to me but that's just my opinion.
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#343182 - 08/01/08 09:08 AM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Emerald]
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Registered: 01/26/05
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Loc: Miami, FL
I think, realistically, one should prefer hypocrites over "true-believers" as hypocrites are just hanging onto a religious label out of tradition or social convenience. White-light hypocrisy should be encouraged.

Do you really want them all to start doing what their books say they should do?
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#343204 - 08/01/08 11:25 AM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: HammerOfDoubt]
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Registered: 07/05/08
Posts: 97
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
I had not thought of it in that light. I may have to rethink my current position. Excellent points.
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#343240 - 08/01/08 03:00 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Emerald]
Foris Offline


Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Either way is notably moronic. The only time I see it used and dont find it annoying is when they only mention the religion in order to let you understand approximately where their ideologies lie... It's not to say it's better or worse... it's just what annoys me, personally. How should I say this. I would prefer them say "I'm not actually a christian, but I do believe in BLAH from the bible" rather than "I'm a christian but BLAH" But that's MY personal preference.

I guess the thing that annoys me the most is the love people seem to have of the concept that some magical invisible guy in the sky invented the universe in 7 days or somesuch, and that dinosaurs are extinct because they were "Too big to fit on the ark"

Someone actually said that to me. "My pastor said they were just too big to fit on the ark."

"What about the flying ones? the oceanic ones? The ones on mountains? Surely they survived. Some mountains are a mile high!"

"It was a really big flood."

"FROM WHAT WATER?! THE OCEAN DOESNT REACH THAT HIGH ANYWHERE ON EARTH. THERES NOT THAT MUCH WATER ON THE PLANET. C'mon man, that's ridiculous."

"It might be ridiculous, but you're the one who is going to go to hell. Looks like you're the ridiculous one."

"Right, because the center of the earth is filled with demons and torture chambers."

"Oh so now you don't believe in demons either? I've seen people get posessed by demons."

"That's absolutely ridiculous."

"Dude, demons are as real as ghosts are."

"Finally we agree on something."

"Psh, whatever man"


It is this kind of conversation that makes me realize that people aren't smart merely because they know many words. I am sad to say that this fellow was not joking at all. He even went on to try to make fun of me with one of my friends(I have only two) and of course, Ulisses made it clear that it wasn't a funny joke to him.

I guess you could say my negetive views of christians stem from being surrounded by religious troglodytes.

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#343243 - 08/01/08 03:16 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: HammerOfDoubt]
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Registered: 10/15/07
Posts: 753
Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: HammerOfDoubt
I think, realistically, one should prefer hypocrites over "true-believers" as hypocrites are just hanging onto a religious label out of tradition or social convenience. White-light hypocrisy should be encouraged.

Do you really want them all to start doing what their books say they should do?

I'd prefer to know where I stand with someone, and with hypocrites you can't do that. I'm not going to go as far as to say I respect people who hold convictions that I don't share (because I don't always) but at least you can predict what they will think and do if their actions are consistent with what they claim to believe.

No, of course I don't want the various peoples of the book to start implementing their barbaric religious laws, but at least I know what it is they're trying to achieve (and usually as a result what course of action is necessary to stop them). People who claim to hold strong religious beliefs to justify what they are doing but who don't ultimately hold them sincerely are far more dangerous, they're the ones who are capable of using the religion to the best of their advantage without necessarily suffering the restrictions.

Originally Posted By: Foris
"Dude, demons are as real as ghosts are."

Seriously, this made my day. smile


Edited by Scion (08/01/08 03:18 PM)
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"Don't you see? If the gays can get married then the whole institution of marriage will be destroyed! Society will crumble! Rivers will run red with blood! And Nazis will walk the earth riding dinosaurs!" Princess Clara, the unsung voice of the Christian right.

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#343251 - 08/01/08 03:30 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Scion]
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Of course, I dont get too worked up about it normally. Especially when I'm not just typing on an internet site. I'm just trying to state my views here in my introduction thread. In other situations, it's not that much of a serious problem. After all, I subject myself to these people by hanging around them. It is of course not my place to complain. I do wish that the nearby coffee shop would have intelligence screenings for memberships though.

Well, except for back in school, where I was forced into group projects with those idiots... Then it wasn't my choice whether or not to be around them.

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#343261 - 08/01/08 04:17 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Registered: 10/15/07
Posts: 753
Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: Foris
Of course, I dont get too worked up about it normally. Especially when I'm not just typing on an internet site. I'm just trying to state my views here in my introduction thread.

You seem to be presuming some kind of admonishment in what I said. I don't quite know why, I was merely giving an alternative opinion.
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All Hail Satan, for I shall ever be his mouth in this blessed and righteous Kingdom of the United!

"Don't you see? If the gays can get married then the whole institution of marriage will be destroyed! Society will crumble! Rivers will run red with blood! And Nazis will walk the earth riding dinosaurs!" Princess Clara, the unsung voice of the Christian right.

www.vampiretemple.com - are you one of us?

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#343266 - 08/01/08 04:33 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Registered: 07/05/08
Posts: 97
Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
Originally Posted By: Foris
"Right, because the center of the earth is filled with demons and torture chambers."


I must have laughed for a good solid five minutes on this one. Thanks for giving me a pick up while I took a break from studying Research Methods for college.

And I just want to clarify something. The dinosaurs did NOT go extinct because they didn't fit in the ark. They went extinct because they were created by Satan and God caused them all to become gay so they wouldn't procreate anymore. Thus, Satan's creations were eradicated from the Earth forever.

I swear on my life that I had an ex-boyfriend who truly believed this. Needless to say, after I learned about his brand of "theology" I decided it was time to quietly exit, stage left. Lesbian lizards....creepy....
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#343269 - 08/01/08 04:56 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Emerald]
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Loc: Miami, FL
Quote:
Lesbian lizards....creepy....


Here's a fun idea:

Dinosaur porn.
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#343271 - 08/01/08 05:02 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Scion]
HammerOfDoubt Offline


Registered: 01/26/05
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Usually the typical religious hypocrite is completely predictable. You are thinking of a more Machiavellian religious type, which is very rare. Your garden variety hypocrite just labels him/herself a Christian or Buddhist as a Goodguy Badge.
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#343285 - 08/01/08 07:32 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: HammerOfDoubt]
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As an addendum to my post, I meant no disrespect towards any lesbian ladies who are on this forum. My intent with the comment was to ridicule my ex's "theology" and not to ridicule lesbians as a group. If I offended, I apologize. (Got a private message from a concerned lady and I just wanted to clarify.)
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#343291 - 08/01/08 08:02 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: HammerOfDoubt]
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Loc: Mississippi
Welcome Aboard Matt!

Hail Satan!
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#343688 - 08/03/08 10:22 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Scion]
Foris Offline


Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Originally Posted By: Scion
You seem to be presuming some kind of admonishment in what I said. I don't quite know why, I was merely giving an alternative opinion.


Oh no. I would have told you directly if that were the case. I just wanted to be clear that Im not some super angsty guy who trudges around, brow so low in anger that it drags on the concrete.

Nay, all is well.




Anyone else used to have parents that would say things like. "you must've sinned, and that's god getting you back!" when you stubbed your toe or hit your head? It was messages like this that compelled me to reject god when I was young... It was a strange experience... First I cursed gods name upon hitting my head on a branch... I noticed that talking to nothing made me feel stupid... I slowly began to recognize... I never deeply believed in it. I recognized even in my youth that in all likelihood, god was just a lie people used to control me. Perhaps I should be somewhat thankful for my parents extreme ways.

You know, right now science can't prove what created the universe, if anything. This Is a big part of why mix-and-matchers still believe in god creating the universe. But it was the same with believing the earth was the center of the universe. I often wonder what will happen when science finally discovers and proves the reality of it all. I believe it will be a funny reaction from the church for me to chuckle at. To me, it doesn't matter what created the 'verse. I`m more interested in humans teraforming a planet eventually.

I like where science is headed.

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#346698 - 08/16/08 11:46 PM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 37
Loc: Ohio, United States of America
Hello! I hate to double-post, but I have grand news!

I have gotten a part time job at an independantly owned macdonalds, and potentially a second job at a hospital nearby. Good thing too. Working for a family member is okay, but it gets obnoxious.

On the side of my biology-related ambitions, I've convinced my mother to allow me to make her back yard into a legally recognized sanctuary for bats! Awesome!

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#346707 - 08/17/08 01:42 AM Re: An introduction, though it is no longer required. [Re: Foris]
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Bats. Congratulations and please keep us informed. Those little creatures need all the help they can get.
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