#377300 - 04/09/09 12:41 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
[Re: Teufel Anbeter]
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Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 3534
Loc: Cowtown
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When you find something you take pride in, it's natural to want to show it off at first. The real challenge comes in realizing that for the most part, there is no inherent benefit in discussing such things, and if you live in an area as volatile as the one where you live, it can actually be a major hindrance.
It's a nice ideal to think "We should all just get along," but part of being a Satanist means realizing that this is never the case. Keep this in mind, also; there are a bunch of Satanists who have achieved a level of celebrity status that allows them to, often very cheekily, reveal the truth about themselves, even if it is only in subtle ways. Some people can therefore act in a very Satanic manner without trying too hard to hide what they are, whereas others may not be in a position where that works for them.
Life is about living one way or another, and no philosophy or dogma should serve to make your life more difficult. If it is, it ain't working.
That is just my opinion, anyways.
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#377301 - 04/09/09 12:44 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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CoS Reverend
Registered: 07/28/01
Posts: 11210
Loc: New England, USA
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What are your thoughts on this? There's a reason why "Counterproductive Pride" is one of the 9 sins. How did any of you end up finding like-minded friends that are also Satanists? It got a LOT easier once I was first introduced to the internet back in '93. That not only goes for finding other Satanists, but finding all other sorts of like-minded people that normally I wouldn't run into all that often. A lot of my real-life friends are people I initially met through the internet in one way or another.
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#377309 - 04/09/09 02:02 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
[Re: Teufel Anbeter]
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Registered: 03/19/08
Posts: 98
Loc: Sin City
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Part of being a Satanist, in my opinion, is recognizing that everyone puts up false walls and being able to not only see through them but put up better walls than others. It is a key to Lesser Magic. Being a Satanist is not about decking out in Baphomets and having Hail Satan! vanity tags. It is about controlling your world and manipulating those around you to achieve your goals. My personal opinion of course. I would suggest keeping it hidden in the area you live in. Wear a cross if you need to and tell others you are a Christian if that's what it takes. Ultimately you should feel a sense of strong pride in the fact that you are getting ahead in life and pulling the wool over others eyes so to speak. If, however, you cannot keep up the charade then it might be time for a move.
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#377312 - 04/09/09 02:39 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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Registered: 03/31/05
Posts: 1443
Loc: 611 Calif. St.
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A good dose of Lesser Magic may do you some good (or evil) depending on how well you can utilize it. Help! I am stuck in the Bible Belt was an excellent post by Magister Nemo.
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#377314 - 04/09/09 03:08 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 103
Loc: USA
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I live in eastern Kentucky. My tattoos alone are enough to get a reaction out of most people around here. When asked, I better success stating I'm an agnostic (open to the idea of religion but not entirely convinced by it). Usually anyone who asks will stop the questions there, but there's always a few that ask the same question "Do you believe in God?"
My response is always "Look, I'm really not comfortable discussing this. Can we please change the subject. Then there's the elite few who won't give it up, so I give them a $2 donation to leave me the hell alone. I'll take my candle or lollipop or whatever they happen to be selling and go on my merry way.
I'm a little hesitant to try and find other satanists in my area due to the supreme stupidity some christians live by. A few years back some proclaimed atheists and or satanists "disappeared," so discretion is definitley the better part of valor.
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#377318 - 04/09/09 03:45 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 2785
Loc: America
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Find the inherent power that lies in the keeping of secrets.
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#377323 - 04/09/09 04:11 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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CoS Priest
Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 10087
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Two thoughts:
I've lived in the southern United States my entire life and I've never really noticed the Christians mentioning their religion for no apparent reason. I can't say the same for some others, such as Wiccans, converts to eastern religions, etc. THOSE people mention their religion for no reason at all. Christians may make the mistake of assuming everyone else is a Christian and asking what church you go to, etc, but that's not nearly as obnoxious.
Second, why do you feel like it has to be brought up? I honestly can't remember the last time religion was mentioned by anyone around me. Coworkers don't give a shit, and if some random guy on the street did for whatever reason approach me (they don't, wouldn't that be really awkward?) I'd tell them to mind their own business.
Just a suggestion, but maybe it's you who wears your religion on your sleeve. To me it is a nonissue and I seem to get by trouble free in this regard.
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#377356 - 04/09/09 08:00 PM
Re: Why is it so difficult?
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Registered: 01/20/06
Posts: 2331
Loc: East Coast, USA.
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I just wish that I could be more open about who I am and that I do not have to hide behind a false wall. More times than not, it's the safest thing to do. If you want to broadcast to the world that you're a Satanist, be prepared to deal with the backlash. We're not in the dark ages anymore, but a lot of bible-thumping folks didn't get the memo.
Edited by Poetaster (04/09/09 08:21 PM)
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- Sam Harris
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#377383 - 04/09/09 11:10 PM
There is a secret.
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CoS Magister
Registered: 10/06/02
Posts: 12019
Loc: Point Nemo s48:52:31:748, w123...
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What secret, you ask? Lean closer. I don't want anyone else to overhear. That's better. Okay. Here it is. It doesn't matter what other people think. It only matters what you think. And what you think will determine just about everything. Oh. One more thing. You want to really meet other Satanists? I have a suggestion. Join the Church of Satan. Downstairs you will have opportunities to get to know other Satanists who felt strongly enough about Satanism to join. Birds of a feather.... Okay. That's about it. Bye for now.
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