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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: ] #385986
06/26/09 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: JGausten77
Very true, David.
On the way home from work, I was listening to a radio marathon of MJ's hits, of which there are obviosuly many. He truly was a master of the pop song, and the production of these tracks (thank you, Quincy Jones!) was flawless.
It's hard for people from the generation below us to understand how MASSIVE this guy was in the 1980s. He was clearly the Beatles of our generation.


Which has to make one wonder how the genre of pop went so horribly wrong. eek

Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Roho_the_Rooster] #385987
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Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
The Beatles had the luxury of being able to break up.


Perhaps it's because he was originally in the Jackson Five before they broke up and he went on his own, just like Paul McCartney. grin

Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Tiberia] #385989
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Once again: Had any other man, especially a white man done the same as Wacko Jacko he would have been in jail for eternity.

Also, have any man hold a baby over a balcony, with its head covered the way this thing did and watch how fast he lands in jail and the child taken into protective custody.

Wacko Jacko got away with it because he used to be black and was a celebrity.


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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Tiberia] #385990
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Originally Posted By: Tiberia
Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
The Beatles had the luxury of being able to break up.


Perhaps it's because he was originally in the Jackson Five before they broke up and he went on his own, just like Paul McCartney. grin


laugh That's how out of it I am. I totally forgot about the Jackson 5!

Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Tiberia] #385993
06/26/09 04:24 PM
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>> Simply put, accusations mean nothing if there is no evidence to back them up. <<

Yes. People here do seem to be forgetting that Jackson was acquitted purely because the evidence against him was so utterly flimsy.

As I said, it was a media circus. Anyone here who has represented the CoS should know from experience that you can say something and have it edited and/or presented in a completely polar context.

The allegations were clearly bullshit from bullshit people out to make a few bucks.

There was a fellow on the radio today. An "expert", apparently, who was talking about Jackson's "inability to form adult relationships"

That might come as a surprise to Jackson's many adult friends and ex lovers.

They spoke of his divorce from Elvis Presley's daughter as evidence of his deficiencies.

How many fucking Hollywood and pop stars have had multiple marriages - and yet no one suggests they can't form adult relationships.

It's all bullshit. They call him odd. He's not any more odd than most stars.

I'd rather listen to the testaments of those who knew him personally than the media circus. This "expert" also added "I wouldn't let him anywhere near my children"

Again, those who knew Jackson personally have stated that he's looked after their children many times.

Those that knew him defend him because they say he's one of the nicest people they have ever known.

It's a bullshit media and that's all there is to it.

People here would do well to remember some of the allegations that have been made against Anton LaVey. Again, by bullshit people. This should ring some bells.

We all should also bear our words in mind during the next Satanic panic when no matter the evidence in our favour, people point their fingers and make similar deductions about us.


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Re: The King has fallen! [Re: Hagen von Tronje] #386000
06/26/09 05:10 PM
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Yeah, and when you hear about that shit don't let your kid be next. Responsibility is a two part recipe in this case. However since he wasn't convicted he retains his innocent til proven guilty status.

As far as I'm concerned he was a god in his field, and that alone should be praised.

Especially here, Strongbone made some very exacting points. I hope he will be remembered for what he did, and not what some LIARS say he did.


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Re: The King has fallen! [Re: S810] #386002
06/26/09 05:16 PM
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He held his own kid over a balcony on camera.

Liars and allegations aside, that's fucking nuts.


"The devil I'll bring you," answered Hagen. "I have enough to carry with my shield and breastplate; my helm is bright, the sword is in my hand, therefore I bring you naught."
Re: The King has fallen! [Re: Hagen von Tronje] #386003
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Thats true. As I stated i hope he will be remembered for the things he did do.

I don't agree with the balcany scene, but one move hardly constitutes denial of a lifetime of accomplishment.

What's the old Joke about accomplishing a myriad of things but suck one cock and your known as a cocksucker. I think this is what is being experienced here.


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Re: The King has fallen! [Re: S810] #386004
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It's just a vulgarized form of the old adage that it takes twenty years to build a reputation and twenty seconds to ruin it.

Nevertheless, even by celebrity standards he was undeniably crazy. Personally I could care less about his music, or the influence it had, or whatever. I dislike virtually all music. But so far as what legacy he left behind, it's far beyond the adage. He spent a brief period releasing popular music and a couple decades doing insane, over the top nutjob shit. Shit like changing his skin color (and blaming that nice, even white tone on a disease!), severely disfiguring his own face, making outlandish comments, displaying criminal levels of neglect for his own children, and acting like he's still 10 years old, and further insisting that this is perfectly ok.

Most well-remembered celebrities have some snafu in their lives but most of them had a successful career that generally outweighed the fuckups. Jackson has the unusual distinction of spending more of his life fucking up than being successful, and it's quite an accomplishment in itself that he managed to fuck things up enough that this is more memorable than the fact that he sold 350 million records.


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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Drake_Bamboozle] #386011
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Quote:
How many fucking Hollywood and pop stars have had multiple marriages - and yet no one suggests they can't form adult relationships.



It's Because he's Michael Jackson. Its that Simple. He's a wealthy singer with an Uber reputation and because of his looks, voice, behavior they believe its "OK" to fuck with him.

As for the accusers especially that kids mom should be beheaded and be thrown off a cliff. Yes I'm being mean, because they deserve it.


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Re: The King has fallen! [Re: Hagen von Tronje] #386017
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"Most well-remembered celebrities have some snafu in their lives but most of them had a successful career that generally outweighed the fuckups. Jackson has the unusual distinction of spending more of his life fucking up than being successful, and it's quite an accomplishment in itself that he managed to fuck things up enough that this is more memorable than the fact that he sold 350 million records."

This is what his cult members don't get. They ignore the years of behavioral patterns and public admissions that lead to the accusations and perceptions. He has no one to blame but himself.

I'd like to see his male cult worshipers tell people they like to sleep in bed with little boys and feed them cookies and then come back and tell me how wonderful their lives are after that. grin


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Re: The King has fallen! [Re: Enigma777] #386035
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So his body died now.

Because the Michael Jackson I admired in the eighties has been dead for long time.


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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: ] #386054
06/27/09 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: JGausten77
He truly was a master of the pop song, and the production of these tracks (thank you, Quincy Jones!) was flawless.

As much as Jackson himself was the icon, in my opinion Quincy Jones was the Satanic master behind the curtain. Now THAT'S a guy I'd want to have a dinner conversation with.


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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Bill_M] #386057
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"In a 2002 interview, when Jackson was asked if he would ever work with Jones again he replied, "the door is always open". However, in 2007, when NME.COM asked Jones a similar question, he said "Man please, I've got enough to do. We already did that. I have talked to him about working with him again but I've got too much to do. I've got 900 projects, I'm 74 years old. Give me a break"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Jones


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Re: Wacko Jacko Dirt Nap [Re: Bill_M] #386058
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As much as Jackson himself was the icon, in my opinion Quincy Jones was the Satanic master behind the curtain. Now THAT'S a guy I'd want to have a dinner conversation with.

Precisely. Jones was the power behind the throne to quite a few artists.



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"I'm fascinated with how primitive the human mind still is. It can be misdirected so easily." John Gaughan


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