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#388901 - 07/24/09 10:40 PM Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement
Enigma777 Offline

Registered: 02/17/08
Posts: 291
Now I don't know much about Mr. Cosby, but this makes sense. Some say he went too far, but I'm glad he said it.

This is actually word for word what he said to a gathering of students who asked about the bailout in America:

'They're standing on the corner and they can't speak English.'

I can't even talk the way these people talk:

Why you ain't,?
Where you is,?
What he drive,?
Where he stay,?
Where he work,?
Who you be...?

And I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk.
And then I heard the father talk.

Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth
In fact you will never get any kind of job making a decent living.

People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an Education, and now we've got these knuckleheads walking around.

The lower economic people are not holding up their end in this deal.

These people are not parenting. They are buying things for kids.

$500 sneakers for what??

And they won't spend $200 for Hooked on Phonics.

I am talking about these people who cry when their son is standing there in an orange suit.

Where were you when he was 2

Where were you when he was 12?

Where were you when he was 18 and how come you didn't know that he had a pistol?

And where is the father? Or who is his father?

People putting their clothes on backward:?
Isn't that a sign of something gone wrong?

People with their hats on backward, pants down around the crack, isn't that a sign of something???

Isn't it a sign of something when she has her dress all the way up and got all type of needles [piercing] going through her body?

What part of Africa did this come from?

We are not Africans. Those people are not Africans; they don't know a thing about Africa.

I say this all of the time. It would be like white people saying they are European-American. That is totally stupid.

I was born here, and so were my parents and grand parents and, very likely my great grandparents. I don't have any connection to Africa, no more than white Americans have to Germany, Scotland, England, Ireland, or the Netherlands?. The same applies to 99 percent of all the black Americans as regards to Africa.

So stop, already! ! !

With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all of that crap .....

and all of them are in jail.

Brown or black versus the Board of Education is no longer the white person's problem.

We have got to take the neighborhood back.

People used to be ashamed. Today a woman has eight children with eight different 'husbands' -- or men or whatever you call them now.

We have millionaire football players who cannot read.

We have million-dollar basketball players who can't write two paragraphs. We, as black folks have to do a better job.

Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us.

We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.

We cannot blame the white people any longer.'

Dr. William Henry 'Bill' Cosby, Jr., Ed.D.

#388902 - 07/24/09 11:03 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
Favenris Offline

Registered: 04/12/09
Posts: 162
Loc: Portland, Oregon
I love Bill Cosby. That's all that needs to be said from my part. Coming from a lower economic background, I definitely saw stratification at work: the strong made something of themselves, and the weak are still living in broken, dirty, apartments infested with rats.

Forget blaming white people, forget blaming black people, the weak only have themselves to blame for not putting their will at work.
"Training is nothing! The will is everything! The will to act." - Ra's al Ghul

#388911 - 07/25/09 12:25 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Favenris]
Mango Offline

Registered: 07/09/09
Posts: 39
I feel he is correct and he shouldn't be ashamed for what he said. It's the truth. And the truth hurts.

It's pretty ironic how the some people of the "black" community have an elitist attitude and represent themselves in the way Mr. Cosby has described.

Good post enigma.

#388912 - 07/25/09 12:53 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Mango]
Delta Offline
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Registered: 12/18/07
Posts: 6756
Loc: Nar
I am reminded of Aaron McGruder's TV series "Boondocks," in which he takes his race to task for how it's been stereotyped. He states time and again that if you don't want to be hated for being black, you must stop acting like the worst connotations of black people. That philosophy culminated in an episode called "Return of the King" which postulates what might have been if MLK lived. In a climactic speech, King derides an African American congregation for just that. The show aired for two seasons during the Bush presidency and reflects an extreme liberal sentiment. It can still be seen on Adult Swim (late night Cartoon Network) alongside such awesomeness as Metalocalypse, Oblongs, Venture Bros. and Superjail. The episode, aired long before the recent election, ends with the election of a black president and the words, "It's fun to dream"

(Warning, video contains the N word like 500 times)

#388916 - 07/25/09 01:42 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Delta]
SomethingLikEvil Offline
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Registered: 08/25/08
Posts: 579
I applaude Bill Cosby for telling it how it is. People of all different races complain about stereotypes, saying they are a false portrayl of their people. The thing is, the stereotype is true, propogated and promoted by people of whatever race.

I remember My step-father telling Me that the black students in his university demanded Swahili be added to the list of language classes, so they could get back to their "African roots." The class did not even last a year as the folks just couldn't keep up with the class.

I am American, I am happy to live in America, politics aside, and I do not concern Myself with where "I'm from."

Anywho, thank you Enigma for posting this.
Resigned -- again.

#388942 - 07/25/09 09:30 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
Bill_M Offline
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Registered: 07/28/01
Posts: 11651
Loc: New England, USA
Growing up in the 70s and 80s here in the U.S., Bill Cosby was a house-hold name for me. I'm a fan of his stand-up work too. In fact, when I did the 5th anniversary episodes of The Devil's Mischief, I used his "Revenge" routine for Satanic Statement #5.

I've seen him questioned on this speech before, but he's stuck to his guns. Kudos for that. Some years before this, his son Ennis was mugged and killed by a Ukrainian immigrant when he stopped on the highway to help fix a flat tire.

Magister Paradise once compiled a number of Satanic quotes from Cosby, both from this speech and a few other sources, and included them in an issue of Not Like Most. I also remember a Satanist who had this Cosby quote in his signature: "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."
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#388950 - 07/25/09 10:57 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: SomethingLikEvil]
verszou Offline

Registered: 09/05/07
Posts: 1814
Loc: Denmark
Originally Posted By: SomethingLikEvil

I remember My step-father telling Me that the black students in his university demanded Swahili be added to the list of language classes, so they could get back to their "African roots." The class did not even last a year as the folks just couldn't keep up with the class.

I sure am glad that back then I was thinking "hey Naur, Hejlsberg and Stroustrup sure seem to influence the world with what they're doing - I should get into the computer thing too".

Otherwise I'd be out in the street, wearing an ill assorted assembly of furs from animals and mumbling in old Norse and writing runes on the pavement, proud of my heritage smile

Now I can read up on my heritage from the vantage point of my comfy chair. I can afford the books and the music.

Trying to learn an ancient language before a marketable skill is surely counter-productive pride unless you are very good and very dedicated to learning it.
While having never invented a sin, I'm trying to perfect several.

#388951 - 07/25/09 11:18 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
Callier Offline

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Registered: 08/30/06
Posts: 2215
I personally don't care about certain people of my race doing things and acting in a way I don't. Same goes for certain people in other races.

If it don't concern me, I don't bitch about it.

I only keep up with what I'm doing. Of course I learn from both successful people and unsuccessful people and I know the things to do and the things not to do but that's where it stops.

#388956 - 07/25/09 12:15 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
CodeEschew Offline

Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 107
Loc: USA
Forget Obama.

Bill Cosby for president!!

Seriously though, you gotta love it when someone calls it like they see it.

#388957 - 07/25/09 12:20 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Callier]
HardAsRock Offline

Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 31
Loc: Malmoe,Sweden
This post really made my day.

I can only nod and say Mr Cosby you are damn right.
Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong.
Adolf Hitler

#388965 - 07/25/09 02:50 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: HardAsRock]
Lilibeta Offline

Registered: 12/06/08
Posts: 157
Loc: Alberta, Canada
I don't even like Bill Cosby but I have to applaud that speech!

You can't blame 'the man' for all your troubles. At some point, you have to take responsibility for your life being in the crapper. And coming from Bill, it has more emphasis. If a 'white person' said it, they'd be (figuratively) burned at the stake! coopdevil

My parents are Ukrainian immigrants. When they came to Canada after the war, they were dirt poor alcoholics with grade school educations and no English. They didn't blame anyone else for what they were. They worked hard and rose above the stereotypes, as did everyone else in their circle. I won't say that they became pillars of the community, but one or two of their children did.

For my sins I will ask no forgiveness. For my sins they are not to forgive.

#388991 - 07/25/09 09:51 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
Chess Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 1473
Loc: Chicago, IL USA
This is actually word for word what he said to a gathering of students who asked about the bailout in America:

Although I happen to agree with Dr. Cosby's statements, I feel I should point out that he made them more than five years ago and they have nothing whatsoever to do with the "bailout".


#388996 - 07/25/09 11:23 PM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Chess]
cheryablinsk70 Offline

Registered: 04/06/09
Posts: 20
I agree with Dr. Cosby's statements, and I think that people of all colors, races, creeds, and so forth should be held to that kind of a standard. People need to stop laying blame with others and actually doing the work to improve their situation. I see so many people these days who blame all their problems on "the man", but refuse to get a job, go to school, or do anything worthwhile for themselves or for society.
Willkommen, ihr Kinder des Licht,
Ihr seid willkommen,
Herzlich willkommen im Nichts!

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#389015 - 07/26/09 03:32 AM Re: Bill Cosby's Controvertial Statement [Re: Enigma777]
Rodim Offline

Registered: 03/18/07
Posts: 239
The people who got angry because of what Cosby said are just another example of the ignorance of the uneducated average American, and should die in a fire.

Problem is, When a minority or even a nation have been living under the same agonizing conditions for years due to their lack of responsibility become lazy and useless.
And so that mindset gets passed on to their children and so on. Pretty grim I'd say.

Yes, its their RESPONSIBILITY. That 'White people controlling us' crap is so stupid i might even cry.

Thank him that someone at least gives a crap these days, blind fools.

Cosby did hit the core of the issue though, and for that i give him my respectful applauds.
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.

-Friedrich Nietzsche

The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.

-Horace Walpole


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