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#403091 - 11/23/09 05:09 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: ‹bermensch]
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Dimwit said: "And you can't decide to buy something like "we are our own Gods." If a person doesn't naturally understand it, he could spend the rest of his life trying to convince himself of it... but to what ends?"

I mean really, what kind of a nonsensical statement is that? I think you have been pounding your pud too long. What does it mean to "naturally understand" something? Did you just make that phrase up, Dimwit? I think you did.

You said: "And you can't decide to buy something like "we are our own Gods." So, you assume that people make no conscious decisions about what to believe? but they do all the time. How do people come to believe something then? Explain that Mr. Fucking Genius. Are you twelve? You live in a fantasy world! Probably from jacking off to internet porn too much. What a dipshit.
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#403093 - 11/23/09 05:23 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Unknown]
LordofDarkness Offline
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Originally Posted By: Unknown
You obviously do not know how to read.

WHY are you trying so hard to make Satanism fit into a perception that is not what it is?

What bothers you SO much about the fact that Satanists are born and not made?

Why are you not grasping this very elementary concept?


I side with you on this. Satanism doesn't bend to one's perception but one's perception must bend to Satanism.
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#403096 - 11/23/09 05:27 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: LordofDarkness]
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If one's perception must bend to Satanism is that not in some way considered conversion?

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#403098 - 11/23/09 05:47 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: ‹bermensch]
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You know, I don't agree with everyone here, I even disagree with Dirmlybunk and Unknown on occasion, but so far they've been acting like gentlemen and you've been acting like a Troll.

If I recall you had two questions. Both of those gentlemen preferred not to answer. Well, here's my opinion:

Does Satanism have a set of beliefs? No. If anything, Satanism only makes a few basic assumptions about the reality of the universe but beyond that it is based in deep skepticism and doubt. And beyond the law there is even room for personal ethics. Satanism is not a babysitter religion.

Can people change their mind about something? Yes. Today I thought I'd have toast. Then I thought I could indulge in a McGriddle instead.

As for your incapability to understand Dirmlybunk's sentiment of natural understanding, it goes back to the section of the introduction to TSB I quoted earlier in this thread. You know, the "inherent in ones nature" bit? As for someone who has Nietzsche as their Avatar, and the name to boot, would you deny that ‹bermenschen are born and not made?

There are some people who are born with mental problems which limit their learning capabilities. Discovering that one is a Satanist is learning; you learned where you stand in the world. Some people are not born with the capability to doubt. Conversely, some are born without the ability to believe.
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#403099 - 11/23/09 05:54 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: NapalmNick]
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"but so far they've been acting like gentlemen and you've been acting like a Troll."

You sir are a liar. Someone called me an idiot first. I simply am smacking them back, tooth for tooth and eye for eye. Your failure to acknowledge that simply proves that you help jack your little wannabe buddies off at night when no one is looking!

"Some people are not born with the capability to doubt. Conversely, some are born without the ability to believe."

Oh really. Prove that statement. Show me one scientific study that substantiates that stupidly ridiculous statement you just made. Are you sure your not related to the DimpleButt?

When you see the sun in the sky, do you believe it's really there? Of course you do. Everyone is born with the capability to believe, the only exception would be someone who is completely psychotic. And everyone is capable of doubting, obviously. All people have many doubts.
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#403101 - 11/23/09 06:02 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: NapalmNick]
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What is TSB if not a set of beliefs?

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#403103 - 11/23/09 06:08 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: ‹bermensch]
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Originally Posted By: ubermensch
You sir are a liar. Someone called me an idiot first. I simply am smacking them back, tooth for tooth and eye for eye. Your failure to acknowledge that simply proves that you help jack your little wannabe buddies off at night when no one is looking!

I apologize. I didn't read the entire thread. But I'm not really sorry. Sure, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. But do you have no sense of self-interest? Your behavior continues to put you in a most precarious postion.

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Are you sure your not related to the DimpleButt?

I guess it's possible. I mean, we're both very charming.

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When you see the sun in the sky, do you believe it's really there? Of course you do.

Nope. No need to believe. Scientists can tell me it's real.
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"Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris; not the end." --Leonard Nimoy as Captain Spock in The Undiscovered Country

"May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." --George Carlin, Playin' With Your Head

"[There is] no contradiction between saying 'evolution has no purpose' and 'organisms have purposes'; just different vocabularies for different levels of description." --Sean Carroll

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#403104 - 11/23/09 06:11 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Bridget]
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The Satanic Bible is a collection of essays and basic rituals meant to be read and confirmed or denied by the individual reader. No belief required.

Just clarifying. You seem to be nice.
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"May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house." --George Carlin, Playin' With Your Head

"[There is] no contradiction between saying 'evolution has no purpose' and 'organisms have purposes'; just different vocabularies for different levels of description." --Sean Carroll

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#403106 - 11/23/09 06:16 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: LordofDarkness]
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Besides warnings that will be handed out shortly, I would like to publicly remind users that courtesy is a requirement of use of LttD. It has not been observed here by all. The offending parties will know who they are shortly if they do not already.

Keep it clean folks or I'll rain on everyone's fucking parade.
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#403107 - 11/23/09 06:27 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Bridget]
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What I mean is basically that Satanism is what it is and one cannot see Satanism the way they want to see it.

I was taking that from Peter's book The Satanic Scriptures

Thank you for asking though. I meant to clear that up a little better.
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"Laws are there for a reason. You may not agree with them but you gotta obey them. Nobody wants to be in court." - Sonic the Hedgehog

"Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path." - Magus LaVey

"Test Everything, Believe Nothing." -

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#403109 - 11/23/09 06:34 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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I would like to make sure everybody knows where I stand.

I have nothing against anyone here and I like to debate respectfully here.

For anyone who is trying to offend or have no courtesy, I won't be on their side on that particular point only because I agree with Hagen von Tronje.

courtesy is very important to this forum.

I do however stand for my opinions that I have recently posted on this topic. But like I said, on the offenses and such, I won't agree with. smile

Ubermensch, You have a point and so does Bridget and Unknown. I take it back if it seems as though I side with anyone's insults or offensive behavior.

I for one am glad to see our discussion debate further.

Let's keep this on a respectful level so we won't have any problems... OK guys?


Edited by LordOfDarkness (11/23/09 06:39 PM)
Edit Reason: Added text
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"Any group or collective, large or small, is only a number of individuals. A group can have no rights other than the rights of its individual members." - Ayn Rand

"Laws are there for a reason. You may not agree with them but you gotta obey them. Nobody wants to be in court." - Sonic the Hedgehog

"Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path." - Magus LaVey

"Test Everything, Believe Nothing." -

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#403110 - 11/23/09 06:37 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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Notice:

User "ubermensch" has received a temporary suspension for chronic rudeness and needless hostility. Further offenses may result in longer suspensions or a permanent ban. I do not suggest walking down the path he chose.

Because I'm a bastard, I think suspensions for such misbehavior will be accompanied by public humiliation, a la public caning. Enjoy.

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"The devil I'll bring you," answered Hagen. "I have enough to carry with my shield and breastplate; my helm is bright, the sword is in my hand, therefore I bring you naught."

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#403116 - 11/23/09 07:06 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Drimlybunk]
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Originally Posted By: Drimlybunk

PS. I apologize to LordOfDarkness for hijacking the thread. Also, LordOfDarkness, your in-box is full...


That's OK. I'm glad you came and spoke your opinion.

This topic was made for anyone's thought.

I dropped a message from my quota. You should be able to send a PM now.

There is something I wish to speak privately to you about.

Something I must confess after reading old posts.
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"Any group or collective, large or small, is only a number of individuals. A group can have no rights other than the rights of its individual members." - Ayn Rand

"Laws are there for a reason. You may not agree with them but you gotta obey them. Nobody wants to be in court." - Sonic the Hedgehog

"Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path." - Magus LaVey

"Test Everything, Believe Nothing." -

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#403117 - 11/23/09 07:13 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: NapalmNick]
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Great post NapalmNick!

Very informative.
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"Any group or collective, large or small, is only a number of individuals. A group can have no rights other than the rights of its individual members." - Ayn Rand

"Laws are there for a reason. You may not agree with them but you gotta obey them. Nobody wants to be in court." - Sonic the Hedgehog

"Satanism is not a white light religion; it is a religion of the flesh, the mundane, the carnal - all of which are ruled by Satan, the personification of the Left Hand Path." - Magus LaVey

"Test Everything, Believe Nothing." -

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#403588 - 11/26/09 06:42 PM Re: The evidence of myself as a born Satanist [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
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Originally Posted By: Hagen von Tronje
Notice:

User "ubermensch" has received a temporary suspension for chronic rudeness and needless hostility. Further offenses may result in longer suspensions or a permanent ban. I do not suggest walking down the path he chose.

Because I'm a bastard, I think suspensions for such misbehavior will be accompanied by public humiliation, a la public caning. Enjoy.



Hahaha! I certainly deserved this! I want to apologize for coming off as an ass. Seriously, I was joking around, and it came off really badly. I don't harbor any ill feelings at all towards anyone on this thread, or to the management, or to anyone at all. I messed up!

Thanks for having me back. And thanks for the caning! Feel free to pile on, I earned it.
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