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#407262 - 12/31/09 07:32 PM Bye Bye Noughties!
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Someone once said to me that the so-called new year's resolution is a perfect example of how ancient votive offering religions still are structurally existing within human behaviour patterns. You make a promise before something of cultural importance (in this case the calendar event of a passing year count) in order to bestow your "event" with extraordinary magical powers and yourself with a sense of duty to uphold it.

The offering bit I suppose is the act of getting royally pissed on champagne before trying to kill yourself with creative use of fireworks.

Well, all I can say is that the double zero part of this fabulous new millenium wasn't all that great. I mean... WTF? Terror? War? Financial meltdown? I mean... I grew up during the height of the cold war years and reached sexual maturity right at the time when AIDS hit the market. As opposed to the generation before me who got post-war optimism and the summer of love.

It would be nice to have a decade with relative freedom from the fearmongers. Not so much for myself. I am too old and depraved to be afraid of anything any longer. But for my children.

But then again... who am I kidding? Humans get off on being scared.

However that may be... and whoever you are, wherever you live, however you prefer to have your perversions indulged; and whatever you believe in...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!



Edited by XUL (12/31/09 07:34 PM)
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#407263 - 12/31/09 07:53 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: XUL]
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And... in case you didn't get it the first time...

I will add this exceptional dance show as PROOF...

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#407442 - 01/03/10 02:31 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: XUL]
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The best new years resolution that anyone can make, is not to make any in the future. That way you can't dissapoint yourself.
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#407449 - 01/03/10 03:45 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Who ever heard of a Satanist setting an aim, not achieving it and then disappointing themselve’s? What kind of Satanists are you? What happened to setting targets? Surely you have targets for the days, weeks, months, years, decades and lifetime?

Maybe don't make a New Year’s resolution as that is just one thing, but I'm sure it is not just me that has a harsh regime to hit heights that the herd cannot? I think spending December 31st writing a list of where I fucked up and what I can do better and making sure it is underlined for the next year works.
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#407453 - 01/03/10 04:48 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir

Maybe don't make a New Year’s resolution as that is just one thing, but I'm sure it is not just me that has a harsh regime to hit heights that the herd cannot? I think spending December 31st writing a list of where I fucked up and what I can do better and making sure it is underlined for the next year works.


Very well put.

I did the same thing in the week between christmas and New Year. But December 31st is just an arbitrary date, so I think it's also important to revise and correct the plans and resolutions afterwards.

This year I knew that I'd underperformed in one area, because I'd underestimated how much effort is should put into it, so I'll factor that in this year.

Another area where I felt I hadn't achieved what I wanted turned out not to have any measurable goals, so I was stuck with the "gut feeling", so that's another one to put into this years plans.

Then there was one goal that I decided to drop. In the second half of the year another interesting goal turned up, and it was clear that I could not do both, so I went with the new goal and got that one.

One book I read about goals had an interesting term called "second stage failures" (my approximate translation back from the Danish version), where he likened the achievement of a goal with flying a rocket to the moon. The first stage is breaking free of gravity, i.e. getting started, breaking habits, getting motivation up. The second stage then is aiming for the moon and correcting the course when you're drifting away. The second stage failures forget this.
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#407455 - 01/03/10 05:09 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: verszou]
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Originally Posted By: verszou
I did the same thing in the week between christmas and New Year. But December 31st is just an arbitrary date, so I think it's also important to revise and correct the plans and resolutions afterwards.


Very right, too.

I would be very interested in the author and book, as funnily enough, one of my underlined targets is to speak fluent Norsk Bokmål this year and I am led to believe it should not take too much effort for me to understand Danish in the written form.
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#407459 - 01/03/10 06:22 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir

I would be very interested in the author and book, as funnily enough, one of my underlined targets is to speak fluent Norsk Bokmål this year and I am led to believe it should not take too much effort for me to understand Danish in the written form.


The author is John Evan-Jones. He has a website where one can see the book which is called "Hvordan vinder vinderne?" (for the benefit of non-Scandinavians that is something like "How do winners win?") (http://www.evan-jones.dk/187). Apparently he has written many others and is a big business now. I only know the one book, so I cannot vouch for the rest of the site.

Good luck with your Bokmål studies smile

It seems the book was never translated into English.
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#407460 - 01/03/10 06:47 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: verszou]
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Originally Posted By: verszou
I think it's also important to revise and correct the plans and resolutions afterwards.


I agree! I usually do my official "reflect, review, reprioritize" exercise around my birthday. Me getting older is far more important to me than, you know, the earth getting older. It's always seemed like a good idea to celebrate new beginnings. I mean, it's another chance to get it right. smile

Anyway, just for kicks, here's the short list I made about a month and half ago.

* Admit to myself that I am no good with names. I resolve to stop putting up a charade that I knew your name once and it has just slipped my mind. That's totally not true. I never knew your name. I barely know my name at this hour in the morning.

* Openly, visibly hate people more and, as a result, hopefully get less indigestion.

* Train to be a ninja.

* Try to remember that when I can no longer hear due to being horridly congested from a head cold, other people can still hear. And, according to Other People, my slurping on Halls non-stop sounds vaguely like one of those wet/dry vacs after a flood. Yeh. I'm going to try to remember that.

* Learn a language. Maybe even English.

* Stop trying to squelch the constant stream of Rod Serling narration in my head.

* Make more lists. They keep me focused.

HS!
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#407461 - 01/03/10 06:58 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Shade]
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Originally Posted By: Shade

* Train to be a ninja.


Yes! The world has far too few female ninjas ... at least as far as I know ... perhaps it is just my ninja-detection skills that are way off smile
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#407465 - 01/03/10 08:17 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Shade]
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Originally Posted By: Shade
Me getting older is far more important to me than, you know, the earth getting older.


True, although my Birthday falls four days before the New Year, so the week before the New Year is a heavy time of indulgence for me and the 31st of December is a good day to wrap the special time up for the next year.

Maybe I should have stressed that it was not a point of celebrating the New Year, but using it as a marker crazy

Fantastic list, here is another cow story for you...

Yesterday one of the cows managed to get ahold of my shit cleaning stick while another one kept guard. When I came to get it, the cow on guard moo'd a warning and the other cow ran away. You would be suprised at how often they have these 'missions', and it almost always involves a stick or a bucket.


Edited by Skjalandir (01/03/10 08:17 AM)
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#407466 - 01/03/10 08:21 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: verszou]
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Thankyou very much. laugh
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#407478 - 01/03/10 12:47 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Shade]
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Originally Posted By: Shade

* Try to remember that when I can no longer hear due to being horridly congested from a head cold, other people can still hear. And, according to Other People, my slurping on Halls non-stop sounds vaguely like one of those wet/dry vacs after a flood. Yeh. I'm going to try to remember that.


That alaways seemed to make a sore throat numb faster,didn't it? I think much in the same way that "smacking" seems to make cereals taste better. . .

Probably just me.
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#407522 - 01/03/10 09:18 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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I have goals, and all of those that are important to me I complete, unless for some reason they become illigal to finish. I have finished goals such as finishing my masters degree, have a job with medical insurance, a home, someone that looks forward to seeing me when I get home that enjoys my company, pets that make undesireables think twice before tresspassing, new vehicle that I enjoy, should I go on?

I think you missed my point, why make silly goals that mean little, that can't be completed. How many people start diet plans and fail, or stop smoking, or anything else. My post was about making stupid wishes to change things for other people, not for oneself. I think that it is stupid to make a new years resolution to loose weight, or anything else, as such things go against indulgence.

Also not everything can be completed by a cirtain date, some things must be completed before other things can. Such as building a car before you know what will power it.
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#407533 - 01/03/10 10:47 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Perhaps you were thinking "attainable" goals instead of "silly" goals?

If someone who smokes 3 packs a day decides to quit smoking on January 1st I wouldn't consider that silly. What I would consider silly is not adequately preparing mentally or physically and trying to white knuckle it through the withdrawal. Yes, it CAN be done, but that's really not the best plan.

Same thing for an obese person to set a goal of loosing weight. In fact, many symptoms of illnesses can be eliminated if overweight individuals shed 10% - 15% of their body weight. But lets face the facts: nobody's going to loose weight plopped on the couch shoving ho-hos in their face and watching Jerry Springer.

It's not healthy to smoke like a chimney, eat like a horse, or over indulge in other areas. Sure, indulgences can be fun and relaxing, but they shouldn't interfere with the quality of one's life. I bring this up because when I was new I went a little crazy on indulging in certain areas because dammit I'm a Satanist and therefore entitled to indulge. Currently there are times where I let myself do exactly what I wish, and others when I realize that certain behaviors need to be limited in order to achieve my overall goals.

There's a world of difference between saying "I'd like to ..." and "I'm going to do .... and here's how I'm going to accomplish it". I'd like to walk on the moon, but I'm not willing to put in the time, effort, and resources that it would require.

The majority of the herd is content with saying they'd like to do x, y, or z while sitting around and not actually doing anything to make it happen. Most Satanists that I know make things happen.

Like others have mentioned, I reflect and plan at least annually for the larger goals and more frequently for micro goals. Professionally I plan and alter strategies on a weekly, monthly, and annual basis. I figure if I'm willing to do that much for my business I should be willing to do at least as much for myself personally.

(For those who remember me from a while ago, I've been working on several new businesses and have had limited free time. Now that the Christmas season is over I will be frequenting this board again. It's good to be back, I've missed so many of you!)
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#407534 - 01/03/10 10:52 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: AurEum]
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Originally Posted By: Eleanor

(For those who remember me from a while ago, I've been working on several new businesses and have had limited free time. Now that the Christmas season is over I will be frequenting this board again. It's good to be back, I've missed so many of you!)


And by so many of us, you mean me, right? (Phosis)

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#407558 - 01/04/10 12:20 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Originally Posted By: paul_r

I think you missed my point, why make silly goals that mean little, that can't be completed.


I can't see that point made in the original post - so perhaps we didn't miss it, you never made the point smile
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#407569 - 01/04/10 04:43 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Originally Posted By: paul_r
I have goals, and all of those that are important to me I complete, unless for some reason they become illigal to finish. I have finished goals such as finishing my masters degree, have a job with medical insurance, a home, someone that looks forward to seeing me when I get home that enjoys my company, pets that make undesireables think twice before tresspassing, new vehicle that I enjoy, should I go on


Congratulations on your achievements, and I didn't mean to offend in my origional post. Perhaps it was too strongly worded.

I did indeed miss your point, but I only missed it because I do not have any interest what-so-ever in what the herd do with New Years, but with what we do with New Years.

Complaining about some fat cow saying she will diet and not go through with it is of no use to us.
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#407576 - 01/04/10 06:46 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: TheDegenerate]
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Yes ..., OF COURSE I mean you (glad you mentioned the name change, I was confused for a minute)! grin
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#407578 - 01/04/10 07:11 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Point well taken. Also anything that is advertized on any stations are ment for mass market are for the herd. One such thing is new years resolutions, and like you plainly stated the fat cow watching TV munching donuts.

I have had the misfortune of seeing such people women so fat that they have clevage on their back, and so fat that they need to ride in a panel van because they can't get in and out of regular doors. Also people so fat that they block the whole isle in a store, or so fat that they need to use a wheelchair because their legs are not strong enough to support them. Once I was at a hardware store and when leaving seen a woman (at least I think that it was a woman) in the back of a van munching down chips, I could sware that it was Jaba the Hut. There was no way such a person could get behind the wheel of any vehicle, let alone be able to reach the steering wheel.

One need not have a diet plan if they eat normally, and actually do things with their life. Just moving around uses quite a large amount of energy. I do not consider watching TV as something good for people, if one is to sit for a while read a book, or write a book, or even articles. However such things are beond most people, and expecally the herd.



Edited by paul_r (01/04/10 07:13 AM)
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#407652 - 01/05/10 12:20 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: AurEum]
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*The majority of the herd is content with saying they'd like to do x, y, or z while sitting around and not actually doing anything to make it happen. Most Satanists that I know make things happen.*

Yes, a lot of people forget one of the key points to setting goals and that is also including HOW and WHEN they will achieve these goals. I think that is why 'New Year Resolutions' are so empty for the herd because it becomes a gimick, something to talk about!

*I bring this up because when I was new I went a little crazy on indulging in certain areas because dammit I'm a Satanist and therefore entitled to indulge. Currently there are times where I let myself do exactly what I wish, and others when I realize that certain behaviors need to be limited in order to achieve my overall goals.*

I love this about Satanism, l love Anton LaVey's 'Seven Deadly Sins' chapter in TSB. If we indulge with food we are being a glutton but then our pride will kick in and we will want to make sure we stay healthy. I am glad that l can indulge in everyone of christianities deadly sins, it truly makes life soooo pleasurable.

Happy indulging devilchili
Hail Satan!
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#407668 - 01/05/10 06:52 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
... and it almost always involves a stick or a bucket.


grin grin grin

Christ-on-fire, your cow tales crack me up. I've now got this weird concoction of The Far Side and the Mission Impossible theme swirling around in my head. If these "morning moos" stories end up in my dreams I'm blaming you. grin coopdevil
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#407695 - 01/05/10 11:40 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Originally Posted By: paul_r
Point well taken. Also anything that is advertized on any stations are ment for mass market are for the herd. One such thing is new years resolutions, and like you plainly stated the fat cow watching TV munching donuts.


I've always understood that the Babylonians were the first folk to partake in the New Year's Resolution. Not sure how much advertising they had back then. Also, don't get me started on fat ranting. Surely you're not one of those people so heavily influenced by the media that you think that everyone has to be trim, svelte and 'pretty' are you? Finally, what's wrong with TV? There's a lot of useful programming on television. Certainly there are the dregs, and most of it is prime time, but I could make the argument that the NY Times best seller list really isn't much better with regard to message/content than your average TV show.

Besides, all of that 'programming' keeps the idiots busy and out of my way.

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#407777 - 01/05/10 10:17 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Fnord]
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Originally Posted By: Fnord
Originally Posted By: paul_r
Point well taken. Also anything that is advertized on any stations are ment for mass market are for the herd. One such thing is new years resolutions, and like you plainly stated the fat cow watching TV munching donuts.


I've always understood that the Babylonians were the first folk to partake in the New Year's Resolution. Not sure how much advertising they had back then. Also, don't get me started on fat ranting. Surely you're not one of those people so heavily influenced by the media that you think that everyone has to be trim, svelte and 'pretty' are you? Finally, what's wrong with TV? There's a lot of useful programming on television. Certainly there are the dregs, and most of it is prime time, but I could make the argument that the NY Times best seller list really isn't much better with regard to message/content than your average TV show.

Besides, all of that 'programming' keeps the idiots busy and out of my way.




Actually being too thin is just as bad as too fat. Both are scary to see, bad for health, and not attractive. I will say that there are no women in any issue of Playboy that I would see as overweight.

As a matter of fact I have heard that the reason that many of the women that are models are so slim is so that they will look more like young boys to some of the producers and promoters of various shows and events that enjoy young boys. I personally do not know how much truth that there is to this, but I heard it from a friend that lives not far from Hollywood, and keeps up on all the gossip and usually knows about stuff before it makes it into the papers.

Also you are probably aware that the new year is different for different cultures. Such as the Chinese, Pagans, Christians, Jewish, etc.
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#407820 - 01/06/10 10:33 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Pablovilla]
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Originally Posted By: paul_r

Actually being too thin is just as bad as too fat. Both are scary to see, bad for health, and not attractive. I will say that there are no women in any issue of Playboy that I would see as overweight.


Not to be too contrary or argumentative, but it's been my experience that the 'ideal body type' (as pimped across all facets of herd media) is a matter of concern for the masses. One can certainly be in perfect health while carrying some more or less body weight than what the herd are trained to strive for. Certainly beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Since I tend to be kith and kin with those who are blatant hedonists, body composition is secondary to philosophy to me.

Of course I'm not suggesting that you're wrong in your assessments... just wrong, perhaps, in the way that you blanket your statements with regard to weight. For example, 'too fat' or 'too thin' are not scary at all to some folks... myself included.


Originally Posted By: paul_r
Also you are probably aware that the new year is different for different cultures. Such as the Chinese, Pagans, Christians, Jewish, etc.


Of course. Just as I'm aware that if one were to trace down the branches of any tradition a common root can most likely be found... as is the case here.


Edited by Fnord (01/06/10 10:34 AM)

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#408071 - 01/08/10 07:29 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
Who ever heard of a Satanist setting an aim, not achieving it and then disappointing themselve?s? What kind of Satanists are you?


I agree that Satanists, due to their rather realistic nature, due to them having strong will-power, due to their talents, etc, that they are less likely to fail to achieve an aim than your avarage believer, less likely... But to say that a 'real' Satanist, or whatever you're implying, would never fail to achieve an aim, would be expecting them to possessan omnipotent power, that say a x-tian god is portrayed to have and that would be solipsism.


The Satanist isn't any less of a Satanist, any less his own god, if he is for instance in a race where his aim is to cross finish line first, but fails because he gets a flat tire and is delayed by having to change it.


Satanists are indeed less likely to fail achieving an aim, but they are not always free from failing and I am pretty sure that if they did one day fail to achieve an aim, that they would then too, be quite disappointed, perhaps even more than your avarage believer.
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#408135 - 01/09/10 08:16 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair

The Satanist isn't any less of a Satanist, any less his own god, if he is for instance in a race where his aim is to cross finish line first, but fails because he gets a flat tire and is delayed by having to change it.


Satanists are indeed less likely to fail achieving an aim, but they are not always free from failing and I am pretty sure that if they did one day fail to achieve an aim, that they would then too, be quite disappointed, perhaps even more than your average believer.


I think this is probably the case, but I aslo think that the Satanist will look to find out what went wrong, instead of claiming that the stars aren't aligned or the gods are malign, to paraphrase Rush smile

In your example I would think that the Satanist would try to find out why the tire was flat and what can be done to prevent something similar next time. The Satanist may also spread disinformation about the cause of the flat tire to make competitors draw wrong conclusions and assumptions about how the next race is going to be coopdevil
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#408136 - 01/09/10 08:17 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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I think that Skjalandir’s point was that for someone to avoid setting goals, so that they don’t disappoint themselves, is not a very Satanic thing to do.

There’s a different connotation between the ideas of “being disappointed” and “disappointing yourself”.
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#408139 - 01/09/10 09:14 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: John Prophet]
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Very true, there is a distinction between those two "disappointments," but a strong-willed person probably won't disappoint himself because he knows he did everything that could have been done.

I guess that such a person also wouldn't waste any time on being disappointed because of external conditions that got in the way of completing certain goals; They'd just get over it and try again, better prepared.

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#408157 - 01/09/10 01:29 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Maupassant's]
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Good first post Maupassant's
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#408163 - 01/09/10 02:51 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
What kind of Satanists are you?


I am the cute and cuddly kind. smile

I call myself "Buddy Satan".
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#408167 - 01/09/10 03:01 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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Registered: 12/12/09
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Loc: Oslo, Norway
Originally Posted By: SINClair

I agree


I knew you would agree. Thank you! I really am cute and cuddly!
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#408171 - 01/09/10 03:59 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: ArtAche86]
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Originally Posted By: ArtAche86
Good first post Maupassant's


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#408177 - 01/09/10 05:35 PM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: John Prophet]
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I see what you're saying.

The term 'to disappoint yourself' usually would make one think automaticaly think about something really extreme, such as an unaware behaviour against one's own nature, something that goes against one's own principles...like doing something wrong.


I don't think he meant it in that sense but so far so good, because neither did I.


Now, in another sense of the term, in a 'lighter' sense of the term, in the sense in question, I think we still remain in disagreement.


Take for instance quitting smoking or losing weight... It is entirely possible for a Satanist to have put on weight, decided to lose it, then aimed at losing for example 10kg in the year 2009, failed to do so then felt disappointed at themselves.


Same goes for smoking. It is entirely possible for a Satanist to have acquired the habit of smoking, decided to quit then aimed to have the last cigarrete in the year 2009, but bought and smoked a pack on the first week of 2010, therefore failing to achieve the aim of quitting smoking, and as a consequence felt disappointed at himself.


In both of these two examples/scenarios, I agree that Satanists are less likely to fail than you avarage believer, but I would not go as far as saying that real Satanists would never fail or feel disappointed at themselves by doing (or not doing) so.
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#408249 - 01/10/10 03:27 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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Registered: 12/07/09
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Loc: England
I agree I was a bit off mark, but I did clear up that my original post was a bit too strongly worded. My focus was more on being against the 'don’t make New Years resolutions' theme. Although I feel disappointment, it does not take me more than a minute to flip it around and ride it as motivation. I would say I am angry at my failings, not disappointed.

Anger works for me. If sitting there with a frown being disappointed works then go for it, but I need to kick a bin across the room to compose myself and make sure not to make the same mistakes again, even when it comes to losing weight. Kicking a bin burns calories.
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#408251 - 01/10/10 03:43 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair
I agree that Satanists are less likely to fail than you avarage believer, but I would not go as far as saying that real Satanists would never fail or feel disappointed at themselves by doing (or not doing) so.


Yes, but perhaps this isn't about the appearance of disappointment on one's mind, but what is done about it.

If someone fails to quit smoking, they often just sit around and think about it, thus creating the whole disappointment.

The idea is that a strong-willed person would admit 'Ok, I failed', but wouldn't go on pondering about the failure - they'd jump right to the next opportunity to break themselves free.

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#408273 - 01/10/10 09:30 AM Re: Bye Bye Noughties! [Re: SINClair]
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I understand what you are saying and I agree.
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