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#410861 - 02/01/10 05:22 AM Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them.
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I think I spent so long in England removing myself from the outside world that I hadn’t realised a very bizarre habit of people defining themselves by their negative traits. But now I am overseas making an effort to meet people (until the novelty wears off and I find myself digging a moat around my house and mounting cannons on my lawn) I have noticed a lot of people making sure that I know that they cannot read or write, or that they have depression, or that they have ‘ADHD’, or that their children have ‘ADHD’, or that they have been raped, or have had an abortion, or in one really mind-boggling conversation, that they have killed people on military duty and are involved in a government cover-up due to the whole squad committing suicide, bar the one who told the story who wants to commit suicide.

All of these things had been confessed to me at ONE social gathering. I came away not knowing what anyone’s talents were, what they enjoyed in life, and I didn’t learn a damn thing apart from people are becoming pussys.

In England I remember a lot people trying to put themselves into dominant positions during conversations and at least having a bit of pride, even though the majority were assholes, but when did everyone start cutting off their own balls and handing them to you in their introductions?

I know the herd like to play victims and casualties but I’ve never experienced so many at one time and it made me wonder if everyone was experiencing this? Or did I just accidently walk into an AA meeting?
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#410863 - 02/01/10 05:55 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Well, I'd say it is most likely the fault of two things: social networking sites and "emo" subculture. I put emo in quotes because that term has changed meaning drastically over the past ten years. Nonetheless, it is an internet phenomenon, which invariably influences behavior in the real world.

In a nutshell: Folks have this unique sensation online. They know for a fact that whatever they post is guaranteed to be seen by a significant amount of people, and yet they are literally alone in a room while doing it. So they go ahead and spill their guts. And it is considered socially acceptable. This same behavior becomes their personal advertisement in the real world.

Because the internet is worldwide, I would not say it is a regional thing. Obviously, different cultures will be influenced differently. American and British pop culture is largely interchangeable and has lots of overlap, so I would not be surprised if you find more pussies when you return to England.
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#410867 - 02/01/10 06:35 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: NapalmNick]
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Oh a cracking insight. I was fortunate enough to be without the internet for a few years and it does seem a bit like I missed some big shift in behaviour.

That will also explain why it seems to be so extreme here. The community is spaced out over great distances and people only really get a chance to socialise every month or so at a club for 18-30 year olds. They must be literally taking their internet persona into a public setting.

I noticed something else, in which people who did not know me would throw jokes at me bordering on insulting, but it only seemed to come from people physically less dominant than myself and the sort of kid you know couldn’t hold themselves in a confrontation, which really caught me off guard. I had to ask a friend if they actually had a problem and she said "no they are just joking, they do it with everyone". Don't get me wrong, I'm used to people joking back and forth with each other, I've just never been on the receiving end of "you fucking asshole, you like to eat shit" from someone I don’t know without having to talk them out of a fight. I couldn’t work out why people would engage other people with that type of behaviour, but it’s obvious now that it’s due to their being no backlash when insulting on you tube, forums, msn etc.
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#410868 - 02/01/10 06:46 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Goddamn I love the way you write. coopdevil

Anyway.

I've experienced it. I am continuously shocked by the things people say to my face (as opposed to online) in the first fifteen minutes of conversation. Total strangers telling me intimate details of their lives. Who they slept with the night before, the DWI they got on Christmas Eve, their past life of drug addiction and disease.

It's like a friend of mine, octogenarian, who prefaces every single chat we have with a list of all of his ailments. All of them. From him it's kind of cute because he's my friend and, well, he's earned it. But these other people, I don't know. Some kind of confession compulsion maybe. I can't really fathom why people say things to me they should be telling their doctor or priest or lawyer. I think I'm supposed to feel sorry for them, and I do, but probably not in the way they'd intended.

I don't think people know what the definition of discretion (discreetness) is anymore. They mirror their lives off of Hollywood tabloidy gossip and end up being just as distasteful and abrasive and undignified as guests on a Jerry Springer show. They make themselves exploitable. Which gives them a perfect excuse to complain about being exploited. Or gets them some kind of hand-out, charity or government subsidy.
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#410880 - 02/01/10 08:36 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Shade]
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Ha! I'm also shocked that they assume I'm interested. The harsh truth is, most people are boring as fuck.

"Oh? So you were peeved at your boyfriend for not calling you back in time so you went to a bar to get shitfaced and decided to fuck his best friend in revenge? Fascinating. How's your crabs?"

crazy

Although if a stranger confided in me some bizarre detail that was totally against type, I'd be all ears. At least it wouldn't be the same boring old insecurities making people act like assholes.

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#410883 - 02/01/10 09:06 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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grin Your post kind of amused me. smile Due to absurdity to hear this all during one event.

Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
I know the herd like to play victims and casualties but I’ve never experienced so many at one time and it made me wonder if everyone was experiencing this? Or did I just accidently walk into an AA meeting?


I, fortunately, don't meet young people, who'd behave like that, personally. Who'd unload all the negativity at me during the first conversations.

I am not sure, if is it because of they are not like that, or because they don't want to tell me things like that at all (not trying to get deeper into those reasons).

What happens to me, and it's on contrary with what some of you wrote here (seems not to be influenced with internet), is that I seem to attract old people, who are telling me some weird stories... Like, while I sit on bench on the town square.
Sometime, they can be cute smile but sometime very annoying.

But yes, from what I observe on internet, it all partly comes also with the emo and goth culture. Mainly with young people. It's like a race about who suffers more, who's darker soul and damned.
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#410886 - 02/01/10 09:20 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Spelled Moon]
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Originally Posted By: Spelled Moon



I seem to attract old people,


Really? grin

Being old, I have to start this post with, "I'll tell you what the problem is..."

I suspect that people in developed countries don't have enough problems. Seriously. Our brains have evolved to help us survive. You know...find food, shelter...solve problems. Again...the human brain evolved to SOLVE PROBLEMS. We've over-nerfed everything, but the brain still wants to do what it is supposed to do...solve problems. So, it manufactures them. Seriously...I work with a guy who broke his hand hitting a fridge because his cell phone didn't work right. What he needs is to spend some time building a shelter.
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#410888 - 02/01/10 09:25 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Roho, you do know that you just spelled out one of the UnaBombers core hypotheses for what ails all of Western Civilization, right?

grin
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#410889 - 02/01/10 09:29 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
Being old,


Ha, Roho, you are not that old. I meant people, who are some decades older than you. smile

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#410892 - 02/01/10 09:38 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Quaark]
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Originally Posted By: Daark
Roho, you do know that you just spelled out one of the UnaBombers core hypotheses for what ails all of Western Civilization, right?

grin


Oddly enough, I am actually wearing a hoodie.

And he was right.
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#410893 - 02/01/10 09:39 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Spelled Moon]
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Originally Posted By: Spelled Moon
Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
Being old,


Ha, Roho, you are not that old. I meant people, who are some decades older than you. smile


Ah! Dead folks. grin
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#410894 - 02/01/10 09:40 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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And you have a beard, and you're just a bit misanthropic, and you're very smart...

Hmmm...
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#410899 - 02/01/10 10:19 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Quaark]
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Not to worry...I never leave my cabin.
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#410901 - 02/01/10 11:07 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Being old,...


Not in "Vampire" years, you're not. witch
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#410904 - 02/01/10 11:21 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster

I suspect that people in developed countries don't have enough problems. Seriously. Our brains have evolved to help us survive. You know...find food, shelter...solve problems. Again...the human brain evolved to SOLVE PROBLEMS. We've over-nerfed everything, but the brain still wants to do what it is supposed to do...solve problems. So, it manufactures them. Seriously...I work with a guy who broke his hand hitting a fridge because his cell phone didn't work right. What he needs is to spend some time building a shelter.


It’s not that they just don’t have enough problems. But the problems that they choose to create are stupid!

With enough ambition, a person can encounter an endless procession of opportunities for problem solving. There’s always more to have, do and become. But people just want to deal with dumb, unproductive problems so that they can maintain their complacency and still be stimulated by their “problem solving”; as their biology dictates.

A person can decide to “stay hungry”, regardless of how much they get. It’s just that most people don’t.
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#410906 - 02/01/10 11:30 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: John Prophet]
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Originally Posted By: John Prophet


With enough ambition, a person can encounter an endless procession of opportunities for problem solving. There’s always more to have, do and become. But people just want to deal with dumb, unproductive problems so that they can maintain their complacency and still be stimulated by their “problem solving”; as their biology dictates.

A person can decide to “stay hungry”, regardless of how much they get. It’s just that most people don’t.


I do not think many have the self-awareness to do that.
Remember, even someone with an IQ of 100-114 is considered "higher average". zombie
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#410907 - 02/01/10 11:33 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Do to overwhelming number of people who feel the need to share their problems with me there's a joke among my friends that we need to write a book on "How to Talk to a Satanist". I really thought it was a side effect of my personality that made them want to open up to me. Now I see it's the struggle for the Woe-Is-Me badge.

Why the need for sympathy? The feeling of being owed something you didn't earn will lead the flock to think they're entitled to subject the world to suffer with them. Misery loves company, if anyone agrees with them they feel they're in the right and get the sympathy the crave. It's a play on compassion that allows Psychic Vampires to feed.

The internet doesn't help but a lot more of the folly comes down to respect and personal responsibility. In my travels I have found such complaints tend to occur more within cities where people have everything right a their finger tips. Kids in school need cell phones and game boys from signal parent homes with guilty parents. Both parent and child raised on this guilt look for hand outs to thrive. This leads to a trend/trait that has them looking for that hand out through the guilt of those around them who supply sympathy.The line "don't be too nice or people will take advantage of you" comes to mind.

Roho is right, People without problems tend to complain more because the brain needs something to do. In their views they feel if you agree or give them "a bone" you validate there belief that somethings wrong. I find people who have real problems and have suffered hard ships don't talk about it.
People who make a living complaining are a waste of time no amount of well, anything will make these people happy.

I think it was here I read the line "Ignore them and they will go away because all they want is attention."

Yes! I'm sorry the world is pussified it's what come from years of dumbing down America and pacifying the masses.

I recommend you hang on to your big balls your going to need them because stupid people are dangerous in large groups.
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#410913 - 02/01/10 11:58 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Originally Posted By: Skjalandir

All of these things had been confessed to me at ONE social gathering. I came away not knowing what anyone’s talents were, what they enjoyed in life, and I didn’t learn a damn thing apart from people are becoming pussys.


I can see from your location setting that you are in Norway, if you haven't already looked it up, check out Axel Sandemose and the "Jantelov".

Often associated with Denmark I think it originated in Norway. Rule number one is "Don't think you're worth anything" ... and for laughs - we Danes often think of Norwegians as being too proud of themselves, so you can imagine what this place is like smile

I think one of the reasons for the behaviour you describe is the negative side of the nanny state/welfare society built by the "Scandinavian model". It is often profitable to have something wrong with you, so people are encouraged to find a suitable victim role. Which is also why American values are frowned upon.

Hope the moderators don't find that I'm getting too political here. I'm not really trying to push any political agenda, it's more making observations on national character.
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#410915 - 02/01/10 12:12 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: I'mPerfecting]
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You know...there could be some interesting conversation here about the effect of progress on the psyche. We are talking about people who, perhaps because of progress, have the luxury to find trivial things to complain about. Does progress take a toll on people?

I am reminded of two movements that developed almost simultaneously, that formulated during a period of great progress. Those movements were the Romantics, and their view of nature and the Decadents and their view of artiface. I have, for some time, been stricken with the similarities of the decadents and Anton LaVey's views on artificial human companionship.

Either one of the above mentioned impulses can often be seen as a result of modernity and its ancillary symptom...stress. One is a retreat from modernity into nature; the other, a retreat through technology. Both seem to be, to me, a neurotic reaction to progress. Being able to get what you want with relative ease can be, oddly enough, stressful. Most people are neurotic. I know people exactly like the original post's description. When things are going well, they fall apart, and come up with a litany of what may go wrong. They simply cannot handle the stress.
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#410916 - 02/01/10 12:13 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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I suspect that people in developed countries don't have enough problems. Seriously. Our brains have evolved to help us survive. You know...find food, shelter...solve problems. Again...the human brain evolved to SOLVE PROBLEMS. We've over-nerfed everything, but the brain still wants to do what it is supposed to do...solve problems. So, it manufactures them.

Thank god I don't have to build a shelter. I have REAL problems, like "What does Kant mean by 'original apperception' and how is it relevant to the pursuit of scientific knowledge?", etc.
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#410917 - 02/01/10 12:15 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: reprobate]
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Originally Posted By: reprobate

Thank god I don't have to build a shelter. I have REAL problems, like "What does Kant mean by 'original apperception' and how is it relevant to the pursuit of scientific knowledge?", etc.


Damn! I'm still at "What happens to the light when i close the fridge door?" laugh
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#410922 - 02/01/10 01:09 PM Just trade up. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Sounds to me as though you need to trade up in your social circles.

It also sounds to me as though you have already realized this.

Stratification begins at home.

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#410924 - 02/01/10 01:26 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Shade]
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Originally Posted By: Shade
Goddamn I love the way you write.


In that case I may start a blog. I have real problems too which need to be read about; why just today I put my hand in a basket to grab my gloves and a hiding cat took it as an invasion of it’s privacy and defended it’s territory tooth and nail.

Originally Posted By: Shade
They make themselves exploitable.


Well this is why on the flip side it is almost a benifit to a Satanist. They've made the game even easier. I've never had so much to use from a lesser magic point of view. Without much effort at all I was recieving toasts for being such a nice chap, invited to this and encouraged to do that. I still do not think their company outweighs being an agony aunt, though. Maybe if I were on chat show host's wage...
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#410925 - 02/01/10 01:27 PM Re: Just trade up. [Re: Nemo]
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Originally Posted By: Nemo
Sounds to me as though you need to trade up in your social circles.

It also sounds to me as though you have already realized this.

Stratification begins at home.


Sir...you are going to HAVE to learn to use a lot of words to say nothing. You're beginning to stick out! grin wink
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#410927 - 02/01/10 01:33 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Lucky me, everyone I converse with on a daily basis is all about money and success.

People that know me know not to come to me with their "shit".

If you ain't talking money then frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn!
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#410928 - 02/01/10 01:39 PM Re: Just trade up. [Re: Nemo]
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Of course, I agree. Being new to the country I had to take a plunge, and in fact did come out of it with a couple of real gems to spend time with. It had been quite a while since I had need of social interaction, and I think the shock of it all is what caused me so much discomfort.
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#410929 - 02/01/10 01:43 PM Re: Just trade up. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Your filters are clearly in place.

Finding worthwhile social contacts is like panning for gold.

Much of the dross gets tossed back into the stream.

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#410932 - 02/01/10 02:07 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: verszou]
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Originally Posted By: verszou
check out Axel Sandemose and the "Jantelov".


I haven't, but I will be sure to get it! It seems very interesting.

Well your view is in line with some of the conversations I've had here, and I think I will get back to you on that one when I have had a few more months here and have more of a clue what I am talking about via PM. I've only had experience with individuals in a farming community, and I know more about cows than I do the "Scandinavian model". whistle
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#410934 - 02/01/10 02:56 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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Yes, Roho, I too am lead to think progress and the rate at which we as people handle progress is the cause of such a neuroses, like stress and myriad of new found psychological disorders.

I recall a book written in the 70's call Future Shock, it's the sociological view of how the advancement of society affects the adaption of the individual. It puts in to perspective that we as a society are clueless about how we adapt to the ever changing world around us. Like my Grandmother being 80 can't operate the internet. While still other elders of similar age get absorbed in to it. True they still call for help finding their email but they learned to operate it.

It would lead one to think intelligence, the willingness to learn, and the desire to learn must be prevalent to adapt. Leading to the root cause of "Progress Stress"? The inability to think (your way out of/or around the situation)?
In fact most people don't think they're just seeking escapism like ostriches with there heads in the sand or linked to the internet hoping it'll all blow over.

I see the raise of the "New Age" movement as similar to grasping at straws in comparison to such Renaissance as the romantic age of reason. None-the-less children revolt to force society to iron out flaws in the system, and they invent new drugs to control us. Wa-la we have "ADHD" drooling masses clambering for hand outs.

Be it nature or technology the masses who can't adapt seek escapism. They get absorbed in to the system with a litany of well rehearsed excuses as to why they can't adapt/coup.

Though I can't say if the stress of having things be to easy is what causes their need to complain. I can say having things easy makes them weak, perhaps to weak to adapt because the brain has been caught in a negative loop for so long all it can muster as a problem solving technique is to cling to what it's most comfortable with, never letting in new information and shutting down.

I wonder if the real issue is the inability or unwillingness to learn? I wonder if that's even possible? I find it hard to believe this is the root cause because that's what the brain does it learns and stores information but then again I suppose that's ignorance? Here's an example.

Stress in it's self is just an emotion we feel when over whelmed, harmless enough, but the stress we cause our selves through the lack of understanding combined with the inability to learn about new things, like stem cell research, leads to the flaw in people's ability to adapt to it. The stress of the subject shuts the brain down in some people triggering the fight/flight response and not reason.

The complainers of the world will never be happy no matter how easy life is. Their stress is internal and no matter what side of the fence there on, be it nature or technology it is progress base because they can't keep up. Evolution over looks them because their dead set on not changing.

I do hope I kept this on point, I love pondering the workings the human mind.

P.S. The light in the fridge turns off when the door closes. A marvel of modern technology most people take for granted.
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#410937 - 02/01/10 03:25 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: I'mPerfecting]
Roho_the_Rooster Offline
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Originally Posted By: I'mPerfecting


P.S. The light in the fridge turns off when the door closes. A marvel of modern technology most people take for granted.


You should have wrote "spoiler alert". Now the mystery is gone. wink

I think you hit the nail on the head when you wrote many are unable/unwilling to adapt. This is part of what we call "street smarts".
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#410942 - 02/01/10 03:55 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Roho_the_Rooster]
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to ruin the "MYSTERY OF THE FRIDGE" for you. Look on the bright side now your free to discover other mysteries like..
What part of the egg is the top?
Which way it the correct way to put the toilet paper on the holder?
How many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop?

As for it being "street smarts", I almost wrote that very same sentence. smile
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#410949 - 02/01/10 05:57 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: NapalmNick]
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Originally Posted By: NapalmNick
In a nutshell: Folks have this unique sensation online. They know for a fact that whatever they post is guaranteed to be seen by a significant amount of people, and yet they are literally alone in a room while doing it. So they go ahead and spill their guts. And it is considered socially acceptable. This same behavior becomes their personal advertisement in the real world.


Well, and in real life, various rules and social cues typically stop us from divulging highly personal information. On the Internet, in addition to often being anonymous (one assumes), one also doesn't receive those signals and cues that would typically give one pause before sharing some nugget of information. The Internet often doesn't feel like a "real" conversation, in other words--and, it seems that the Internet (and talk and reality television, too) have spilled out into the real world.

(It could be that everybody's sessions with their therapists have spilled out into reality, too.)

Add that to the fact that it's traumas, drama, and tragedies that get people on reality shows and talk shows and on the front covers of the tabloids and on the top of the hit list on YouTube. All-too-rarely and all-too-briefly are people rewarded for being sane, competent, stable, and normal.

Because of these and various other factors, it seems that narcissism is on the rise. More people than ever seem to believe more strongly than ever that they DESERVE to be the center of attention, and will absolutely DIE if it doesn't happen. At that rate, negative attention is better than no attention at all.

That the overall pace of life seems to have accelerated considerably in the past decade or so means that it is actually harder to grab someone's undivided attention for any amount of time. Try to have a nice heart-to-heart with somebody, and whoops, within 30 seconds, they have to answer a text, or they have to answer a phone call, or they have to run here or there. So, you have to work harder for those little nuggets of consideration and attention, and you have to squeeze every last drop out of them while you have them.

So, there you have it.

Well, and I've noticed that the more "emo-ness" is rewarded or lauded (whether implicitly or explicitly), the more people ignore or even chafe at "non-emo-ness," especially overt pride or confidence. I've had to learn how to speak "emo," just to be able to communicate with sad-sacks and pathetic losers who can't hear anything else! (On a less extreme or dramatic note, though, note that just generally knowing how to appropriately commiserate with folks about this-or-that is just good social skills, and good Lesser Magic. Meeting someone's crummy news with good news is bad manners. )



Edited by TrojZyr (02/01/10 06:09 PM)
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#410954 - 02/01/10 06:21 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Nemo]
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Originally Posted By: Nemo
Your filters are clearly in place.

Finding worthwhile social contacts is like panning for gold.

Much of the dross gets tossed back into the stream.


Absolutely! To that, I'd add that, in my experience, one must also learn to compartmentalize.

That is, I tend to move within and without a very diverse system of social groups. I recognize that Group 1 fulfills Purposes and Needs A, E, and F, but not B, C, and D, and that Group 2 fulfills Purposes and Needs B and D only, and actually sabotages or undermines A and E, and so on and so forth. You have to learn what to expect (more-or-less) from certain individuals and certain groups, and then try not to get too upset when they fall short of some ultimate standard.

(Though, some amount of annoyance, frustration, or dismay may be standard and expected, especially when you're dealing with people to whom you are closely connected. The point is, don't let it consume or overwhelm you, especially if you've dealt with an individual or group long enough to know how they operate.)
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#410968 - 02/01/10 08:09 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Loc: Pacific NW
Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
I have noticed a lot of people making sure that I know that they cannot read or write, or that they have depression, or that they have ‘ADHD’, or that their children have ‘ADHD’, or that they have been raped, or have had an abortion, or in one really mind-boggling conversation, that they have killed people on military duty and are involved in a government cover-up due to the whole squad committing suicide, bar the one who told the story who wants to commit suicide.

All of these things had been confessed to me at ONE social gathering.


Skjalandir, you're very patient to listen to all the little sad Sams.

I've observed a trend with the local folk (in the US) they seem to have much more
sympathy for the squeaking whiny wheel than the strong silent type.

Originally Posted By: Skjalandir

I came away not knowing what anyone’s talents were, what they enjoyed in life, and I didn’t learn a damn thing apart from people are becoming pussys.


Sad and true. And they love you for listening to them, remember that.

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#411094 - 02/03/10 01:38 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Nammu]
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Loc: Texas
I love it when people reveal their deepest weaknesses to me without my having to ask or do anything to find out what they are. That way I know what to use to control them should the need arise. ~smile~

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#411378 - 02/06/10 03:58 AM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Skjalandir
I still do not think their company outweighs being an agony aunt, though. Maybe if I were on chat show host's wage...


Agony aunt. Nice phrase! Never heard it before.

Big reason I came to this forum is that I knew the emo crowd wouldn't last long here. Prey animals are for target practice. For conversation I want lions, wolves, and foxes.
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#411568 - 02/07/10 06:05 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Zaftig]
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Loc: Europe
I don't think it matters to them whether the person is interested in hearing their stories or not.


There's a girl that I work with who's a nightmare to be around on that regard. Gladly I do not work with her every day of the week, but every time that I do, she will spend the whole day telling me in the smallest details how a certain day was.


She will tell me about a conversation she had with her boyfriend and she will repeat the dialogues word for word, she will tell me what they had for dinner, what his mother told them over dinner, and she'll go as far as detailling how sex with her boyfriend was that night, down to the most intimate parts.


We are not even friends, we are work collegues, and never, for not a moment whatsoever, have I shown slight interest in hearing her stories. Quite the contrary, I do everything to show I wish she'll stop speaking.


I start playing with my phone, I open a book, I even leave the room making a comment that would politely put an end to the "conversation"... All to no avail. She will follow me to the next room and restart again:


"... then I folded the sleeve on his shirt and his mother told me how wonderful I am, because his ex-wife would never do such thing... His ex-wife doesn't even cook, she buys frozen dinners..."


FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING CHRIST, WOULD YOU JUST SHOOT YOURSELF IF YOU CAN'T SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET OUT OF MY FACE?!


To me it seems like these sort of characters only do things in their lives to get acceptance from people, to impress people, as opposed to doing things to please themselves and make themselves happy.


That's why they can't just keep a happy moment to themselves or share them with only close ones who actually care and would be happy for them too. They have to shove it down everyone's throat, just to prove they too can do it.


It is very fucking sad. What a waste of energy. What a waste of space.



Just as bad as to hear their woes.
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#411703 - 02/08/10 03:17 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Skjalandir]
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I blame pop-psychology for the most part. In the western world it has become cliche to be diagnosed with some sort of mental illness. In 2009 I met no less than 50 different people who all claimed to have bi-polar, MPD, mild autism and/or dyslexia.

All of these people: lazy, ineffectual piece of shit slob sons of bitches who couldn't muster it in real life.

The bi-polar people are really just too immature to handle adult situations.

Those with MPD are really just too boring to be honest.

Those with "mild autism" are often just too pussified to be the life of any party, even the lamest of D&D sessions.

Those with dyslexia never read, never write and when they do they are usually too high off a bong hit to give a fuck about even remotely proper English. "I'm not good at spelling because of dyslexia!" and I have to ask, when did you last read a book?

Pop-psychology and psychiatry has given them an out to being real men and women. They've been taught that if you've got some type of disorder then that forgives you for being an idiot.

Further, they've also been taught by pop-psychology that it's somehow a good thing to always talk about your feelings. It isn't. Internalize them and then shit them out because they don't amount to anything unless you can actually do something real about a tangible problem.

This mutated at what is now the height of the internet so now people who haven't even attended a pop-psychology session can be educated on how to pass yourself off as damaged goods in order to avert attention away from real flaws like laziness, educational deficiency and unhealthy amounts of marijuana usage.

It aggravates me so much that I bordeline buy the Scientologist view on psychiatry, but no.

Good post.
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#411710 - 02/08/10 04:31 PM Re: Hi. Here are my testicles. I don't need them. [Re: Insurgent]
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Now that was one heck of a read! Thank you for sharing. coopdevil
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