#411994 - 02/10/10 03:40 PM
LaVey saw this one coming.
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As I was browsing through the news this morning, I stumbled upon this article on DiscoveryNews: "Women's Natural Scent More Seductive Than Perfume" When I read through the article, I found myself thinking, "Anyone who's read The Satanic Witch can tell you that." I guess this just goes to show how much LaVey really did know what he was talking about.
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#411999 - 02/10/10 05:34 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Interesting. As for men: I hate those commercials for Axe body spray that suggest spraying half a can of it all over your body will make super model women find you sexually irresistible. It's awful when I have to actually hold my breath when a young college frat boy comes within 20 feet of me. What's the worst are those putrid oils Muslims wear. They might make them closer to Allah, but they drive me to stand as far away from them as I possibly can. Then again, I try to distance myself from all Muslims, regardless.  [/end rant]
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#412000 - 02/10/10 05:41 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: M.D. Roche]
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They have television commercials here in New Zealand advertising a deoderant spray called Lynx. They've named it "The Lynx Effect" when you spray yourself and suddenly all the females within sight start to notice and follow you.
Lynx and Coca Cola make equally ridiculous TV advertisements in this regard!
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#412002 - 02/10/10 05:55 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Lynx and Axe are one in the same, but I find their commercials admirable in the old sense of good advertising. They're one of the finest examples of making the public want what you have to sell, almost as good as Carfax which has a commercial campaign forcing car dealers to use their service lest they appear disreputable. But sex sells, and for Axe/Lynx that campaign has made the company huge in a few short years, the nose knows it certainly wasn't the actual product that made them popular.  Further research for VIP members: The "Axe" Effect Thread. Beware the Autoplay and mute your computer.
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#412007 - 02/10/10 06:21 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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It would be hilarious to make a parody of those commercials where the guy is followed by lots of horny women and then he turns around and screams "Stop following me, I'm gaaaay". But, gays use deodorants for females to attract other men. At least that's what my homo colleague does. He smells nice.
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#412009 - 02/10/10 06:22 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Axe/Lynx is horrid. I'd much rather smell BO than Axe. I RARELY wear cologne. The one cologne I personally like the scent of (that's affordable) is Brut. But what the ladies like is an entirely different thing, and I like the idea of them liking how I smell much more than them liking how Brut smells. Contrary to the Doktor's essay that was quoted in that thread, I do bathe, but only on a semi-regular basis. Basically if I feel dirty that's when it happens. Which is about once every couple of days. Lots of folks will read this and think that's gross, but if you were one of the many people I spend my time around you wouldn't notice. In fact, you'd probably think I was the sexiest thing on Earth. As for my opinion of womens' perfume, I find most of them are more subtle than colognes. Add to that the fact that most women know how to properly apply the stuff, and I'll admit most of the smells are pleasing. But each woman has her own natural scent, and most of the time you have to be rather close to even pick up on it. Depending on the time of the month it can be downright disturbing. As for the specific smell of that specific area, I've my own opinion on that, but I'm thinking I probably shouldn't get into that here. One thing you will definitely notice is that your personal bonds with your familiars will become stronger when they become used to YOUR scent. That's how they know you.
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#412010 - 02/10/10 06:26 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Funny you should mention that, because there are most definitely Black colognes. You smell it, and know it would go perfect on a Black guy. They actually smell quite nice. They smell like bad muthafucka. There's also Mexican colognes. No, not Hispanic colognes, MEXICAN. As in, from Mexico. My Puerto Rican friend walked in the door wearing Mexican cologne; I slapped him, told him he was a bitch and that I'm leaving him forever. GUYS, stick your own damn race cologne. 
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#412012 - 02/10/10 06:31 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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But, gays use deodorants for females to attract other men. At least that's what my homo colleague does. He smells nice. Well, I use Degree, but maybe I'll have to try that some time... though I'd probably end up attracting transsexuals and effeminate weirdos. *shudder*
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#412026 - 02/10/10 10:40 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Eeh. I think this is really subjective. I haven't been able to get my hands on a copy of the Satanic Witch, so I can't really agree of disagree with what is written in it, but the way I see it, as a girl, there are some girls who smell just fine without perfume and there are other girls who smell like an ass crack, even after showering. You can't really take a study like this and apply it to all females. Well, you probably can in terms of 'hormone levels' and stuff like that, but if you're just sitting beside someone and they smell like shit even after bathing, well, I think they need to do something about it. Obviously it's commonsense to not soak yourself in perfume as it burns the nostrils, but a little hit of lavender behind the ear or on your wrists might be... a necessity?
I dounno. I was on a bus a while ago and could smell someone menstruating and was severely grossed out. Since then I've been a fan of masking scents like that.
Edited by Melly (02/10/10 10:43 PM)
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#412056 - 02/11/10 05:28 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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How we smell varies so dramatically from person to person. And by that I mean both how we sense and how we are sensed. It seems impossible to generalize. In an age when dousing oneself in eau-de-Germ-X is so popular though I think any hint of smelling like raw animal sexuality is bound to get one noticed. The trick may be knowing when to use that so it's to your advantage. Being oblivious to your audience/target can result in sending unintentional or inappropriate signals. Along with TSW, I'd also recommend Perfume by Patrick Süskind. Edit: Another Lesser Magic aspect of all of this -- it may be a good idea to be extremely discriminating about when or with whom one discusses personal grooming. Even among Satanists, I think it can be a distasteful, taboo subject. Marvel at my brilliantly, stunning articulation of the obvious when I say that too much information is often... too much information.
Edited by Shade (02/11/10 06:05 AM) Edit Reason: One more thing...
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#412057 - 02/11/10 06:38 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: M.D. Roche]
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when a young college frat boy comes within 20 feet of me. Always so harsh on the fraternity guys... We aren't all collar popping, Axe bathing, womanizing, d-bags. My chapter tends to stay away from that kind of person. (Anyone for a game of Risk?  )
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#412119 - 02/11/10 04:15 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: cheryablinsk70]
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Fuck! And I thought this was something all men knew instinctually! Sometimes I swear the human species is de-evolving rather than evolving.
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#412141 - 02/11/10 06:47 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: M.D. Roche]
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I was talking a bit about scents on my blog a few weeks ago. Here were some of the quotes I pulled from The Satanic Witch: "It is inconceivable to think that human beings could be the only creatures without appealing sexual odors, yet odors that originate in the sexual parts are considered anathema by a large majority of them. [...] Perfumes should be used OVER existing odors, not in place of them; and the perfume you choose should bring OUT your own odor, not neglect it. [...] I cannot stress enough that ANY odor, if strong enough, becomes unpleasant. The most pleasing scents, when intensified enough, become noxious; and conversely, many of the most alluring scents are reductions of otherwise objectionable odors." As for men: I hate those commercials for Axe body spray that suggest spraying half a can of it all over your body will make super model women find you sexually irresistible. My girlfriend happens to love the smell of Axe body wash. Though in my experience, just about every scent is loved by some women and at the same time repulses other women. It would be hilarious to make a parody of those commercials where the guy is followed by lots of horny women and then he turns around and screams "Stop following me, I'm gaaaay". Or how about just, "Get the fuck away from me, you freaks! Security!" I don't care how hot these women are; a group of strangers stalking me in public and wielding hygiene products is simply wrong. Always so harsh on the fraternity guys... We aren't all collar popping, Axe bathing, womanizing, d-bags. My chapter tends to stay away from that kind of person. (Anyone for a game of Risk?  ) Personally, I've come to accept "frat boy" as a term describing only the stereotypically loud, 6-o'clock, 18+, trust-fund male, who may or may not actually be in a fraternity. Obviously, the term doesn't apply to Satanists like you, myself, Magister Harris, etc. who found our own reasons for wanting to join a fraternity in college (esotericism, ritual, housing benefits, etc.)
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#412142 - 02/11/10 07:08 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: NapalmNick]
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Scent is a very important part of attraction and I would agree that it is gender specific. I think that women are made uncomfortable by the smell of other women. Biologically speaking, an ovulating female should smell like competition to another heterosexual female.
Also, for the most part, I have noticed that women who are very sexual tend to be an outcast amongst other women, even when their exploits are not yet known to the group. Sometimes I wonder if women can “sniff out” their enemies.
I, as a very sexual woman, and many of my girlfriends who are also very sexual have observed that we tend to make friends mostly with men, women who are attracted to women, or other women who are very sexual. Perhaps a woman whose smell has undertones of sex or arousal may unconsciously make other women uncomfortable. Of course, perhaps that could have less to do with scent and more to do with insecurity.
As a side note, I don’t think that perfume covers up natural smell as much as we like to believe. It is probably worse for your love life to try to remove natural smell than to add a dab of artificial scent on top. Pheromones are for the most part unconsciously detected anyway.
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#412174 - 02/11/10 10:22 PM
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[quote=BasherFuck! And I thought this was something all men knew instinctually! Sometimes I swear the human species is de-evolving rather than evolving. [/quote] Please tell me you've read the Darwin awards! I like the smell of the following: 9IX by Jay Z Clinique Happy for Men and ADIDAS moves on occasion. . . They cover the smell of the farts from coworkers (which smell like rest stop bathrooms)and my girlfriend likes them as well. But whenever I wear absolutely nothing,some of my closer friends told me that I smell like Nag Champa. SO I guess I smell like a hippie? Some scents I can't stand to smell anymore because they are SO overused. Abercrombie & Fitch's Fierce is most definitely in that category of repugnant odors. On the topic of a woman's natural smell. . .I enjoy it quite well.I've never encountered a woman who smells like a fish.I never understood that whole cliche.I don't think it bad when a woman has her own scent,I just like some better than others. It's a real turn on,and as a man who LOVES cunnilingus,it's a mouth waterer 
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#412179 - 02/11/10 10:49 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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I never understood that whole cliche That's no cliché buddy, you've just been fortunate enough not to meet one yet. 
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#412219 - 02/12/10 10:39 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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I think that a bit of perfume is very nice. There are situations, when it's ok, or desired, to not use scents. However, as some of you pointed here, none smells nicely to everyone and it's polite to not "stink". It's not amiable, if one feels a need to cover the nose, while being near to someone not exactly nicely savorous, to say it becomingly. Even if is it subjective. By the way, I remember from childhood, there was some kind of perfume for men (or aftershave lotion?) of which scent literally reminded of shit. Not exactly on first breath, just somewhere in background, one felt it. Fortunately, didn't notice it on anyone, in past few years, anymore. 
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#412236 - 02/12/10 01:59 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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You've just inspired me. OK, assuming I can get uber long-distance for at least 2 hours I'm going to call Norway... And if I'm successful, the world will be graced with a new scent: KVLT 'N' GR1MBy Herr Slesk Of course, I once displayed my now-world-famous scent as my avatar here: 
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#412238 - 02/12/10 02:06 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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I, as a very sexual woman, and many of my girlfriends who are also very sexual have observed that we tend to make friends mostly with men, women who are attracted to women, or other women who are very sexual. Perhaps a woman whose smell has undertones of sex or arousal may unconsciously make other women uncomfortable. Of course, perhaps that could have less to do with scent and more to do with insecurity. I would agree with this, and have observed the same thing. I've also noticed that there are some women who simply loathe me, at first sight, without knowing anything about me. It's a curious thing, and more complicated than just "she's jealous", because they are not unattractive nor unintelligent women, and many times they were more attractive and professionally more successful than myself. It's can be really funny, if I don't care, and borderline dangerous if they are in a position of power.
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#412284 - 02/12/10 09:12 PM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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What's really terrible is when somebody gets it in their head to spray on several different scents of Axe or Tag or something like that. Instead of smelling "sexy", they smell like they took a bath in rubbing alcohol. I guess if you're trying to attract someone with a medical fetish that could conceivably be a good idea... 
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#412315 - 02/13/10 01:11 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
[Re: cheryablinsk70]
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That has a great deal to do with the fact that LaVey was a natural sorceror. What I mean, is that he saw life as it is and made it known to others. He had more than just a knack for words. Mans base nature is at the very core of satanism, we are carnal beings, intelligent and damn near perfect. Animal scent is definately a more natural aphrodisiac. Millions of years of evolution have proven this. I'll bet on that over some under-a-million-or-so year old man's opinion.
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#412319 - 02/13/10 01:29 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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I think that certain scents can be opposite enough, yet inhance a woman's normal scent, but my favorite is chocoalate because to me it smells like sweet ass. As for my second favorite, that would be peppermint.
I had an awesome sexual experience as a young man that involved a mint and cunninglious (hope thats the correct spelling). Part of my crystalization period I would venture to say.
So both are very arousing. That being said, I think that smell is one of only five "common senses"?
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#412324 - 02/13/10 03:08 AM
Re: LaVey saw this one coming.
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Not at the moment, but I'll get to work on that ASAP!  By the way Ms. Moon, your new avatar is verrry sexy. Meow! And when you finish the scent for women, and I'll use it, I'll be also absolutely irresistible. (Thank you.  )
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