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#412454 - 02/14/10 02:19 AM A view on prostitution
Marko Offline


Registered: 02/13/10
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Loc: Sweden
To me a man/woman is entitled to his/her own body, I have nothing aginst prostitutes or people who hires prostitutes, I do have qualms about "pimps", if a proper brothel needs "protection" it's called "security guards" hired for a nominal fee. I am all for legal prostitution, that way, pimps gets out of business and the prostitutes are protected like any other worker.

Prostitution is the oldest profession there is, moralists and naggers around the world have tried in vain, in thousands of years, with pitchforks and torches, with teargas and sub-machineguns, with laws and lobbyists to put the chastity belts on men and women worldwide without asking the people in question what THEY would like to do.

Political Correct whiners cry about "slavery", there is slavery involved yes, when it comes it illegal prostitution, but once it is legal, what can I say, domestic products are better.

Religious "know-it-alls" cry about "morals", don't like the mess, stay out of the kitchen I say. Go kneel to your ghosts for help, I will hire some pleasure thank you.

The list goes on and on with eggheads and airheads who can't mind their own life and insist on telling others how to live.

That is my opinion about prostitution, i'm open for discussion, please, share your thoughts.
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#412457 - 02/14/10 02:37 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: NapalmNick]
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All for the system in Amsterdam and Berlin, picking up girls from the corner is illegal prostitution, most of the time those girls are on heavy drugs and/or abused by clients or pimps.

In legal prostituiton, the prostitute gets slapped, the slapper gets to meet with a giant who slaps him so hard he needs to got to the hospital. Thats justice.
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#412460 - 02/14/10 02:54 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
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We are all whores in slavery.

The government is our pimp. Pay up, or get slapped down.

From the 1988 TV movie Jack the Ripper:

Superintendant Arnold (Edward Judd) to Inspector Fred Aberlaine (Michael Caine) :

"We can't win, Fred. We were never meant to. We're all pawns: me, you, ten-shilling whores. And all around us kings and queens."

If anyone disagrees with me - stop working. Stop paying your taxes and see what happens.
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#412462 - 02/14/10 02:56 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
verszou Offline



Registered: 09/05/07
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Loc: Denmark
Currently my country seems to have a 'don't ask don't tell' kind of policy in that prostitutes are allowed to operate without being prosecuted, as long as they pay taxes smile

There is much talk about passing laws that would make the purchase (not the selling) of their services illegal. The argument most often used is that it would help stop "trafficking", which seems to be very much akin to white slavery.

I think they're attacking it the wrong way around. Making new laws about human 'sins' almost always results in the business continuing underground. Prohibition didn't do away with drinking, neither will making it illegal for men to go to a prostitute.

For me it's a question of resources, if a woman is a consenting adult, let her perform business with other consenting adults, and let the police work on the percentage of the business where violence, drugs and other forms of persuasion is involved.

Also, it seems that the number of sexually related crimes are lower in places where prostitution is not forbidden - I believe some of the first statistics are starting to show up here in Scandinavia where you can more or less factor out cultural differences between the countries.
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#412468 - 02/14/10 04:53 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
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Registered: 02/05/10
Posts: 1132
Loc: New Jersey
Originally Posted By: Marko
I am all for legal prostitution, that way, pimps gets out of business and the prostitutes are protected like any other worker.


A prostitute is a disease vector for the undiscriminating. I won't be going near one, though, so let them infect and get infected like mad for all I care. Even if it was legal I would keep my distance. Mix in the legal hassles and it's stupidity squared. Perfect for bible thumpers!

As for the cruelty of pimps - Don't care.






Edited by RealityPrinciple (02/14/10 05:35 AM)
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#412473 - 02/14/10 08:49 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Machismo]
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 241
Yeah, criminalizing a consentual action between 2 adults like that is ridiculous...it's just wrong to outlaw it, people have zero right to go messing in others' private business like that.

For one thing, making it illegal doesn't stop it; it just makes prostitituon more dangerous: now we can't discriminate between willing escorts that are in legitimate business, and the abusive pimps and slave-holders that traffick in and enslave women (and often children, even younger than teenagers) from impoverished areas.

If prostituion was legal, then police could distinguish between open exchange of sex for money and the girls who are abused by pimps and traffikers...as it is right now, the girl gets slapped by her pimp or a client, and she can't do sh*it because the cops will just be "zomg ur a hooker ima arrest u n say im cool lol!"
It's ridiculous.

Bottom line, let's distinguish between willing prostituion, and abusive oppresive slavery. People can do what they want without hurting others, and then we can focus on reducing the ACTUALLY harmful and unjust practicies of the slave-trade and sex-slavery.

(I mean it should still be perhaps segregated to only certain areas of a city, and/or people's private residences. Still can't f*ck in the middle of the road)

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#412474 - 02/14/10 08:51 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Liberterius]
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Posts: 241
(by the way I also just realized that this topic may be a TAD political for not being downstairs...? :/)

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#412479 - 02/14/10 09:39 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: NapalmNick]
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Butters has something to say about paying for kisses.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/251903/
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#412482 - 02/14/10 09:57 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Discipline]
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AHAHA south park is the best! "do you know what I am saying?"
Ah Butters, you never disappoint me.

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#412483 - 02/14/10 10:14 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Machismo]
verszou Offline



Registered: 09/05/07
Posts: 1814
Loc: Denmark
Originally Posted By: RealityPrinciple
Originally Posted By: Marko
I am all for legal prostitution, that way, pimps gets out of business and the prostitutes are protected like any other worker.


A prostitute is a disease vector for the undiscriminating. I won't be going near one, though, so let them infect and get infected like mad for all I care. Even if it was legal I would keep my distance. Mix in the legal hassles and it's stupidity squared. Perfect for bible thumpers!


Stratification applies to this area too.

The crack whore turning tricks on the street can hardly be compared to the high class escort or the dominatrix (or any other kind who caters to specialised preferences).

The first group will never go anywhere, the second may actually be financially successful, meet businessmen and politicians and so on. We hear about it when they make important men fall from grace, so to speak, but we may never know what influence they had on the men who never got caught with them smile
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#412488 - 02/14/10 10:40 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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I also would be for legalization of prostitution, if the protection of both prostitutes and customers would be guaranteed very well, in laws.

It could solve also some other social issues, I think...

But it would require also people to sense that as a job, quite seriously besides the fun it brings, and not to see it as a reason for intolerance; it would require a change in people's mentality.
For example in Slovakia, prostitution is sensed very negatively.

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#412489 - 02/14/10 11:05 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
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Registered: 08/30/06
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Originally Posted By: Marko
I am all for legal prostitution, that way, pimps gets out of business and the prostitutes are protected like any other worker.


If prostitution becomes legal, there will be even a bigger and badder pimp to keep all the ho's in check.

His name is Uncle Sammy. Don't let him get out da car and choke a bitch! crossbones

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#412496 - 02/14/10 01:05 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Discipline]
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That episode is grand! I *love* the ending of it!

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#412501 - 02/14/10 01:58 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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Registered: 07/08/06
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Originally Posted By: verszou
... but we may never know what influence they had on the men who never got caught with them smile


I like that. smile

My mother named me after a fictional character that might possibly be considered a prostitute. Orphaned country wench type sleeps herself into the good graces of high society and thereby becomes a very powerful force to be reckoned with.

When I was old enough to read the rather bawdy book (condemned by the Catholic church for "indecency") my mom told me about this. She seemed almost embarrassed or worried that I might be offended. On the contrary, I was jazzed. Little bit o' hellfire in it, you know?

While having never been one nor having known any working girls personally, I have no idea what the realities of the profession are. However, a woman willingly offering sex for money (or trade of any kind) seems like solid mojo. Taking advantage of someone else's needs in return for personal gain? Sounds downright witchy. witch
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#412507 - 02/14/10 04:17 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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Registered: 12/03/09
Posts: 49
Loc: Austin, TX
Originally Posted By: verszou
Originally Posted By: RealityPrinciple
Originally Posted By: Marko
I am all for legal prostitution, that way, pimps gets out of business and the prostitutes are protected like any other worker.


A prostitute is a disease vector for the undiscriminating. I won't be going near one, though, so let them infect and get infected like mad for all I care. Even if it was legal I would keep my distance. Mix in the legal hassles and it's stupidity squared. Perfect for bible thumpers!


Stratification applies to this area too.

The crack whore turning tricks on the street can hardly be compared to the high class escort or the dominatrix (or any other kind who caters to specialised preferences).

The first group will never go anywhere, the second may actually be financially successful, meet businessmen and politicians and so on. We hear about it when they make important men fall from grace, so to speak, but we may never know what influence they had on the men who never got caught with them smile


I actually associate with a few pro dommes and escorts (both bio and trans women) and I have to say it does seem like quite a lucrative job. Most of them, however, are also successful in other areas of work, such as beauty, modeling, and writing. They are so not disease ridden, quite the contrary actually. They take very good care of themselves. I've thought about pro domming myself, but my career path is such that it would most definitely bite me in the ass later on.
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