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#412565 - 02/15/10 06:56 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
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Originally Posted By: Marko

Prostitution is the oldest profession there is...


Second oldest, agriculture is the first.
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#412575 - 02/15/10 08:25 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair
Originally Posted By: Marko

Prostitution is the oldest profession there is...


Second oldest, agriculture is the first.


I don't see why there shouldn't be some sort of prostitution among hunter/gatherers.
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#412578 - 02/15/10 09:13 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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What?
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#412579 - 02/15/10 09:17 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair
What?


You say that agriculture is the oldest profession, but before humans had agriculture they were hunters and gatherers. I don't see any reason why prostitution couldn't exist at that point in time, before agriculture.
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#412581 - 02/15/10 09:47 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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Gatherers?

In history of civilization, Western and Eastern, agriculture is recognised to be the first profession exserted.

Prior to being civilised, I do not think women had enough freedom or power among men, to charge for sex.
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#412592 - 02/15/10 11:03 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Marko]
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In most places, prostitution is illegal. The Church of Satan does not condone illegal activity, period.

As for legal prostitution, I'm all for it. Most of the problems associated with prostitution (drugs, physical abuse, no health regulations, etc.) are specifically due to it being outside of the law. And I speak as a satisfied customer of some legal brothels in Nevada.

The reason why feminists hate prostitution is not so much because they think it's "abusive to women". Feminists want men to be emotional slaves, and don't like seeing men having a simple and practical solution to a common problem (men wanting to get some action and willing to pay for it, and women willing to take money for the act).
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#412602 - 02/15/10 11:36 AM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair
Gatherers?

In history of civilization, Western and Eastern, agriculture is recognised to be the first profession exserted.


Nevertheless there is a long tradition of referring to prostitution as "the oldest profession in the world"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_prostitution

I doubt that many people will say "Oh, you mean agriculture" when hearing the expression.
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#412605 - 02/15/10 12:03 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Bill_M]
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I have always held the unpopular opinion that stripping is empowering to women. They have the power to tease men until their balls turn blue, but they'll never let them touch (unless of course you pay extra, but that's only in some clubs). The men sit on the sidelines drooling and panting like pathetic dogs while the stripper gets the satisfaction of reducing those men to such a level. At the end of the night she goes home with a fist-full of money while the men go home broke. Now tell me, who's really being degraded here?

I'm not so sure that being a common street whore is empowering, but being a dominatrix certainly is. At brothels I imagine the women set the rules too, and have bodyguards to take care of anyone who breaks them.

There's nothing wrong with using ones natural sexual talents to make money. Denying a woman to do that would be truly degrading.
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#412606 - 02/15/10 12:12 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: verszou]
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That's right. Many people are misinformed.


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#412609 - 02/15/10 12:40 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: M.D. Roche]
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I have always held the unpopular opinion that stripping is empowering to women.

I remember going to a strip club once where they had a lottery of men's names from the audience. They'd pick winner every hour. This "winner" would then get on stage while two women pulled his pants down, covered him in whipped cream, made him get down on all fours, then crawl to the end of the stage while one of them sat on top for the taxi ride. My thought was "And this is supposed to be degrading to WOMEN?"
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#412611 - 02/15/10 12:50 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: M.D. Roche]
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I have always held the unpopular opinion that stripping is empowering to women. They have the power to tease men until their balls turn blue, but they'll never let them touch (unless of course you pay extra, but that's only in some clubs). The men sit on the sidelines drooling and panting like pathetic dogs while the stripper gets the satisfaction of reducing those men to such a level. At the end of the night she goes home with a fist-full of money while the men go home broke. Now tell me, who's really being degraded here?


I went to a stripper joint once and I hated it. The room was smokey and the girls were "crack whores" who were average. Trust me seeing a stripper in a well lighted room would make you gag. Very few are good looking. So while it may seem "empowering" to the woman on the stage on a much deeper level I can't but help think they need the stage to make themselves "feel good" like a drug. Just my opinion based upon a one and only time experience.
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#412618 - 02/15/10 01:23 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Unknown]
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Originally Posted By: Bill_M
I remember going to a strip club once where they had a lottery of men's names from the audience. They'd pick winner every hour. This "winner" would then get on stage while two women pulled his pants down, covered him in whipped cream, made him get down on all fours, then crawl to the end of the stage while one of them sat on top for the taxi ride. My thought was "And this is supposed to be degrading to WOMEN?"


A perfect case in point!

Originally Posted By: Unknown
I went to a stripper joint once and I hated it. The room was smokey and the girls were "crack whores" who were average. Trust me seeing a stripper in a well lighted room would make you gag. Very few are good looking. So while it may seem "empowering" to the woman on the stage on a much deeper level I can't but help think they need the stage to make themselves "feel good" like a drug. Just my opinion based upon a one and only time experience.


There's probably some truth in that. I myself have never been to a strip club, so i can't speak from any experience. I'm much more content staying at home and looking at free porn. I love the internet. grin
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#412623 - 02/15/10 01:29 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: SINClair]
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Originally Posted By: SINClair
Prior to being civilised, I do not think women had enough freedom or power among men, to charge for sex.


That's a common misconception. Women actually had a far higher, more equal standing to men prior to the advent of agriculture. Women were bringing home at least 90% of the food, after all. After agriculture, women's work was considered far less important, and thus women were devalued and lost power.

As to the original topic, I believe that a consenting adult should be able to have sex with another consenting adult for any reason those adults want, even if for an exchange of money. I don't support doing it when it's illegal, but I do support making it legal.

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#412624 - 02/15/10 01:30 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: Unknown]
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I've never been to a strip joint, but oddly enough I have known three girls who've had the job.

All three had vomit-inducing faces. Crack whore describes it well enough.

Personally, even if I had a 100% guarantee that all the girls were hot, I probably still wouldn't go. I don't like being teased by strangers. wink
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#412628 - 02/15/10 01:42 PM Re: A view on prostitution [Re: NapalmNick]
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Personally, even if I had a 100% guarantee that all the girls were hot, I probably still wouldn't go. I don't like being teased by strangers.


My stepbrother used to always tell me he could take any stripper home he wanted to. I always laughed and told him to go right ahead, you won't catch me touching them with a 10 foot dildo.
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