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#417870 - 04/05/10 07:58 PM Law Enforcement & Satanism
lhpjeffery Offline


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So, I just returned from my orientation for the Police Academy & something was brought up that I found to be pretty darn cool. I'll get to that in a moment. My original goal about a year or so ago was to become a Nutritionist, because health/fitness is a huge passion of mine. However, I pondered on the idea & realized that my true calling was law enforcement. My father's a twenty-eight year veteran for the Highway Patrol & the last fifteen years of his career he worked in plain clothes, investigating crimes committed on state property. My uncle, which is my father's brother currently works at a local department, here in Southwestern, Ohio, which is right by Miami University. In fact, I've been riding along with him as of late, observing on the job. So, upon my realization that I wanted to pursue law enforcement I enrolled in a local academy to become OPOTA certified.

Today was orientation. We met in the forum to discuss the things in which we need to bring on our first day of classes, which is going to be the 12th of this month, next week, a day after my birthday. Yes, Dr. LaVey & I share the same birthday, pretty darn cool too. Our instructor, who is a police officer informed us we could not have any facial hair while going through the academy. What was said next took me my surprise, being a lifelong Satanist. He stated: "Absolutely no facial hair, goatees or Devil goatees like...oh, Anton LaVey." I was pretty taken back by the fact, because what are the odds? However, I started thinking to myself, I wonder what his views on LaVey & the CoS are exactly. I've been to a few seminars put on by cops & FBI agents that delved into the Left-Hand Path & all have seemed to have a clouded, distorted view on what the CoS represents & is about.

I'm not sure if there are any police officers here, on this board, even though I know many are card carrying members. I must inquire though, if there are & you have no problem stating that you're in the line of work that you are, has this ever been an issue for you &/or hindered your career(s) in any way shape or form? I personally don't feel a need to state my religious philosophy/beliefs to my employer, but I'm also not one who will be stifled if he is asked either. I've come up with a pretty good answer to those who ask me what my religious beliefs entail & that is...

"My life's philosophy coincides with the Left-Hand path, set forth by the late Dr. Anton Szandor LaVey." Typically speaking, I tend to get confused looks from most & they move on from there, though if asked to go into more detail I typically have no problem in doing so. However, since I have decided to pursue a career in law enforcement I'm thinking that I should stay quiet on the situation if asked, for many don't seem to know much about Satanism & its belief(s)/philosophy. Any advice from members, non-members would be much appreciated too. If I'm not mistaken the military now recognizes Satanism as a religion. If I'm incorrect, please feel free to correct me. It's a dangerous slope & I've since invested a lot of time & money into pursuing this & don't wish to shoot myself in the foot early on, or even later down the line. I find self-preservation is indeed, the highest law & want to make the most/best out of my career.

I do believe that even in law enforcement though, they're unable to hire/not hire you based on: religion or sexual preference. However, I do know if an agency or department see red flags that they deem as being, red flags they will find a way around not hiring you. Either way, I wanted to share with you all my experience today, for I found it quite amusing & I'd also like some feedback/advice as to what you might do in my situation. Keep mum, or wear it on your sleeve if asked/brought up.

Thank you!

HS!
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#417872 - 04/05/10 08:14 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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I worked for a local police department for some time. Two people struck me during that time:

- The Captain collected hearses, which he named and enjoyed driving around town while wearing a Hawaiian shirt. He also collected Nazi memorabilia.
- After I left the department I ran into a sergeant at the grocery store. He was wearing a red t-shirt with a Baphomet and the text "In memory of Anton LaVey."
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#417873 - 04/05/10 08:22 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Hagen von Tronje]
lhpjeffery Offline


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Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Hagen von Tronje
I worked for a local police department for some time. Two people struck me during that time:

- The Captain collected hearses, which he named and enjoyed driving around town while wearing a Hawaiian shirt. He also collected Nazi memorabilia.
- After I left the department I ran into a sergeant at the grocery store. He was wearing a red t-shirt with a Baphomet and the text "In memory of Anton LaVey."


Very, very cool! Thanks for sharing & thanks for responding to my thread. I've often told many people that most cops aren't exactly as you may think they are. To pursue a career in this line of work takes a certain type of person & is not just a job, but a lifestyle change too, for some, though I've been around said line of work ever since I can remember. There's a huge dichotomy of personalities & I've met quite a few who have a love for the macabre.
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#417879 - 04/05/10 08:54 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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I am in the Army, but I haven't known any Soldiers that are Satanists that I am aware of.

If you look on RLAS (a Military program that contains personnel information such as religion, race, etc, you will find every Judeo-Christian denomination possible, as well as many other religions, including Wicca. However, there is no option for Satanism/Church of Satan.

My unit found out about my religion, I didn't advertise, but it hasn't hindered me one bit, and hasn't caused other people to treat me differently. If anyone does have a problem with it though, they are professional enough to not bring it up.

Usually though, if asked about my religion, I generally say I am an Atheist. It sure saves a lot of explaining.


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#417881 - 04/05/10 09:05 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
TrojZyr Offline
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Originally Posted By: lhpjeffery

I do believe that even in law enforcement though, they're unable to hire/not hire you based on: religion or sexual preference. However, I do know if an agency or department see red flags that they deem as being, red flags they will find a way around not hiring you.


Yep.

I also figure, it pays to have your co-workers and superiors like and/or respect you, because even when they can't openly discriminate against you, or fire you, they may still be able to find ways to make your life that much more uncomfortable or unpleasant. (And, it may not always be completely conscious and premeditated, either.)

But, I salute your choice to pursue this particular line of work! It's difficult (I've heard), but I hope it turns out to be rewarding for you. Here's to catching bad guys and helping good folks!
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#417885 - 04/05/10 09:14 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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As I have mentioned before in this forum, those who think that they are able to "talk sense" to someone in a job related situation regarding Satanism are setting themselves up for a rude awakening. Is there a chance nothing will happen? Of course. Are you willing to risk it, though.

Once you let the cat out of the bag, it doesn't go back in. Several people here have found out, the hard way, that so called open minded, understanding ones, whether they be friends or family, are the very ones that will create problems should the opportunity arise.

Satanism doesn't demand martyrs. It demands, among other things, applied intelligence.

If you choose to reveal yourself to a chosen few at work, and it comes back to bite you, well, you will have no one to blame but yourself.

Forewarned is forearmed. The choice is yours.

PS: There is no such thing as "LaVeyan" Satanism.
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#417887 - 04/05/10 10:05 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Phineas]
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Excellent advice Magister Phineas!

In my experience keeping Satanism hidden is like wearing a bullet-proof vest. I actually perform better at work knowing I have an edge nobody else has-I am a Satanist. What good is a secret weapon if it's not a secret anymore?
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#417892 - 04/05/10 10:56 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Phineas]
lhpjeffery Offline


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Loc: Ohio
I appreciate all of the replies I've received thus far. All in which I concur with too. My folks & I are extremely close, however, in order not to rock the boat, they aren't aware of my being a Satanist. Reason being, it would only hinder our relationship in the long run & religion to me is a personal choice & again, self-preservation is above all else, the highest law. Again, I appreciate all of the feedback thus far & welcome more, be it positive/negative.

As far as LaVeyan Satanism goes, you're correct. There is but one CoS & one Satanic philosophy, all others are reverse Christians who believe in fairy tales & should never label themselves Satanists. So, I suppose I misspoke.
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#417893 - 04/05/10 10:58 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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For what it's worth, I'm in the process of joining the Navy. It's my second attempt since graduating college, so now I am officially qualified. They asked my religion and I proudly said "Satanist" and that is what they put into their information.

The recruiter said "You really want me to put that?" Of course I did and I explained to him that it's a legal and officially recognized religion and he had no problem with it.

That may be my weakness. I haven't really been one to care what people think of me personally, especially my decision to openly advocate Satanism. If people don't like it, I really don't care. Naturally this means that I don't bring it up unless it is necessary. I don't think it's necessary for an employer to know, but anyone I consider a friend, why not? It's never hurt before.

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#417894 - 04/05/10 11:04 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Adveser]
lhpjeffery Offline


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Originally Posted By: Adveser
For what it's worth, I'm in the process of joining the Navy. It's my second attempt since graduating college, so now I am officially qualified. They asked my religion and I proudly said "Satanist" and that is what they put into their information.

The recruiter said "You really want me to put that?" Of course I did and I explained to him that it's a legal and officially recognized religion and he had no problem with it.

That may be my weakness. I haven't really been one to care what people think of me personally, especially my decision to openly advocate Satanism. If people don't like it, I really don't care. Naturally this means that I don't bring it up unless it is necessary. I don't think it's necessary for an employer to know, but anyone I consider a friend, why not? It's never hurt before.


I applaud your confidence in yourself & the religion/philosophy in which you hold dear to your heart. Were you able to write a brief explanation as to what being a Satanist meant? The more I've thought about this, while reading the handbook in which I was given earlier tonight, as well as after reading the replies here I find much validity in hiding in the shadows & practicing what Satanism is, for it's a religion/philosophy that you're born into, not made into & living by example & the principles set forth by Anton LaVey.

Either way, I wish you the best of luck in your career! I just finished watching disc 3 of Navy Seal training at B.U.D.S. Very intense stuff indeed!
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#417908 - 04/06/10 12:33 AM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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Loc: California
Thanks for the reply.

I didn't have to write anything about it, just verbally informed him that I was quite serious. He more than likely thought I was joking. When he gave me my paperwork to take the ASVAB exam, he did put it in there, which is good because whenever I go to boot camp, I can bring my Satanic Bible and any other works to read during the boring times.

...and Thank You for choosing to be a police officer, I admire your courage and commitment in such a difficult task. As for me, I'm taking the real chickenshit way out going into (hopefully advanced) electronics because that is what I have a degree in.

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#417933 - 04/06/10 09:34 AM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Adveser]
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Originally Posted By: Adveser

"You really want me to put that?"


Good luck getting it on your dogtag. haha. From what I've read they don't even put 'Atheist' on the dog tags anymore. Just 'Other' or 'None Specified.'

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#417936 - 04/06/10 11:34 AM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Iscariot]
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Actually, they do put "Satanist" on dog-tages, just take a look at mine.


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#417945 - 04/06/10 01:21 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: SomethingLikEvil]
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Wow, I never would have thought the US goverment would have recognized 'Satanist' over 'Atheist.' Now I feel bad for those who simply identify as Atheist.

Atheist Dog Tags
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#417948 - 04/06/10 01:36 PM Re: Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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As far as LaVeyan Satanism goes, you're correct.


Please note: PS: There is no such thing as "LaVeyan" Satanism.

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#418010 - 04/07/10 10:06 AM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: Iscariot]
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Loc: Ohio
Originally Posted By: Iscariot
Wow, I never would have thought the US goverment would have recognized 'Satanist' over 'Atheist.' Now I feel bad for those who simply identify as Atheist.

Atheist Dog Tags



Wow, very cool! Thanks for sharing.
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#418013 - 04/07/10 01:00 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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A friend of mine who resides on the coast of NC recently joined the force. He has been a Citizen of the Infernal Empire for a couple of years now, and he kept me informed of the decisions regarding which department he would most like to work for. Each Satanist that I have met, both online and in person have all shared the same passion for justice that I have. I admire that and salute the men and women of Law Enforcement.


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#418042 - 04/07/10 09:40 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: SomethingLikEvil]
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When I was in the process of enlisting in the Marine Corps, I had atheist put on mine. Needless to say, I never heard the end of it, all the way from my recruiter, to my MEPS liaison, and sure enough somehow my fellow poolees found out about it.

After I got out because of a screwed up contract and re-enlisted in the Army (and made damn sure my job was 100% as an Intelligence Analyst), I put no preference.

Maybe I'll get it changed after Basic (yes, I know veteran Marines don't have to go through Basic -- I didn't even make it to Parris Island).


Oh, and back on the original topic: I'm a Criminal Justice major myself. No family history sans my grandfather, though -- they're all in the medical field.
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#418061 - 04/08/10 02:24 AM Re: Satanism [Re: Nemo]
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As a current Police Officer in South Central Los Angeles, it is best to keep your beliefs to yourself, until you pass your probationary status. After that speak freely about whatever.

If you do feel the urge to be vocal and you are still on probation with that department, the only thing they have to tell you is "You do not meet our standards, and for that you are being let go."

And no! there is nothing you can do about that, Sorry.

Now, this only goes for where I work. If you are a Cop in Po-Dunk Kentucky, Bible-Belt South, or prestine Bel-Air, Ca. You might want to keep your left hand views to yourself at all times.

Do not rock the boat, if you do not have to.

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#418068 - 04/08/10 05:26 AM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: SomethingLikEvil]
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Originally Posted By: SomethingLikEvil
Actually, they do put "Satanist" on dog-tages, just take a look at mine.



I no longer have my dogtags, since it was some 35 years ago that I left the Army, but mine (issued in Feb. 1969) stated that I was then a Satanist. I got the same reaction from the NCO who took the information to be stamped in them, "Oh, really? What's that? I've never heard of it."
I told him about TSB, and met him later and he had bought and read it through.
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#418164 - 04/09/10 01:56 AM Re: Satanism [Re: BlackWater71]
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Originally Posted By: SouthCentralCop
If you are a Cop in Po-Dunk Kentucky, Bible-Belt South, or prestine Bel-Air, Ca. You might want to keep your left hand views to yourself at all times.

Do not rock the boat, if you do not have to.


I live there,and you have hit the nail on the head.

People worship Palin next to Jesus and Dale Earnhardt here.
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#418218 - 04/09/10 03:10 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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When I went through basic we were allowed to have any religious text of our choice out for inspection. My Sgt picked it up, looked at it, asked a few questions said he had an interest in different religions then he told me he was wiccan. Then a few months ago I ran into a Satanist MCpl, who knew me from this message bored. I was only able to clue in how he knew me because of the ring he was wearing. Dork didn't bother telling me his user name.
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#418234 - 04/09/10 09:30 PM A clarification. [Re: BlackWater71]
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As a current Police Officer in South Central Los Angeles, it is best to keep your beliefs to yourself, until you pass your probationary status. After that speak freely about whatever.


Just to be clear to any casual reader, SouthCentralCop was not answering my post nor referring to me.

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#418292 - 04/10/10 12:53 PM Re: Satanism [Re: BlackWater71]
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Thanks to all who have responded & given me, as well as others some excellent feedback! I start the Police Academy on Monday. Looking forward to getting the ball rolling.
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#419244 - 04/21/10 02:17 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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Originally Posted By: lhpjeffery
So, I just returned from my orientation for the Police Academy & something was brought up that I found to be pretty darn cool. I'll get to that in a moment. My original goal about a year or so ago was to become a Nutritionist, because health/fitness is a huge passion of mine. However, I pondered on the idea & realized that my true calling was law enforcement. My father's a twenty-eight year veteran for the Highway Patrol & the last fifteen years of his career he worked in plain clothes, investigating crimes committed on state property. My uncle, which is my father's brother currently works at a local department, here in Southwestern, Ohio, which is right by Miami University. In fact, I've been riding along with him as of late, observing on the job. So, upon my realization that I wanted to pursue law enforcement I enrolled in a local academy to become OPOTA certified.

Today was orientation. We met in the forum to discuss the things in which we need to bring on our first day of classes, which is going to be the 12th of this month, next week, a day after my birthday. Yes, Dr. LaVey & I share the same birthday, pretty darn cool too. Our instructor, who is a police officer informed us we could not have any facial hair while going through the academy. What was said next took me my surprise, being a lifelong Satanist. He stated: "Absolutely no facial hair, goatees or Devil goatees like...oh, Anton LaVey." I was pretty taken back by the fact, because what are the odds? However, I started thinking to myself, I wonder what his views on LaVey & the CoS are exactly. I've been to a few seminars put on by cops & FBI agents that delved into the Left-Hand Path & all have seemed to have a clouded, distorted view on what the CoS represents & is about.

I'm not sure if there are any police officers here, on this board, even though I know many are card carrying members. I must inquire though, if there are & you have no problem stating that you're in the line of work that you are, has this ever been an issue for you &/or hindered your career(s) in any way shape or form? I personally don't feel a need to state my religious philosophy/beliefs to my employer, but I'm also not one who will be stifled if he is asked either. I've come up with a pretty good answer to those who ask me what my religious beliefs entail & that is...

"My life's philosophy coincides with the Left-Hand path, set forth by the late Dr. Anton Szandor LaVey." Typically speaking, I tend to get confused looks from most & they move on from there, though if asked to go into more detail I typically have no problem in doing so. However, since I have decided to pursue a career in law enforcement I'm thinking that I should stay quiet on the situation if asked, for many don't seem to know much about Satanism & its belief(s)/philosophy. Any advice from members, non-members would be much appreciated too. If I'm not mistaken the military now recognizes Satanism as a religion. If I'm incorrect, please feel free to correct me. It's a dangerous slope & I've since invested a lot of time & money into pursuing this & don't wish to shoot myself in the foot early on, or even later down the line. I find self-preservation is indeed, the highest law & want to make the most/best out of my career.

I do believe that even in law enforcement though, they're unable to hire/not hire you based on: religion or sexual preference. However, I do know if an agency or department see red flags that they deem as being, red flags they will find a way around not hiring you. Either way, I wanted to share with you all my experience today, for I found it quite amusing & I'd also like some feedback/advice as to what you might do in my situation. Keep mum, or wear it on your sleeve if asked/brought up.

Thank you!

HS!


I worked as a police officer for 9 years. My best advice to you? Keep your personal life guarded. All of it.
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#420033 - 04/30/10 03:40 PM Re: Law Enforcement & Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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I have worked in the U.S. Army and in Law Enforcement. I am now a Security Consultant for various companies. I have found through experience that I now have to be much more careful of who I release the information to that I am a Satanist.

While in the Army I was pretty open about the fact as no one seem to care what religion anyone was other than in passing conversation. Being that most of my duties were performed in Special Operations units I didn't have idiots or narrow minded people around me. I had Satanism on my dog tags and, contrary to popular belief, even had Church of Satan listed as my religious preference on my Enlisted Records Brief. Simply put, I had no issues.

I also spent two years working for a campus police department as a sworn officer. Here I also had no issues. In fact, many christian officers would specifically ask for my assistance when dealing with persons of "alternative"(what does that even mean?) religions.

I obviously did not flaunt the fact that I was a Satanist in either case, Lesser Magic is key. However, in both the Military and Law Enforcement I was really not forced to hide the fact. Now that I work in the private sector (even though the job hasn't really changed) I find that I have to really cover up this fact. I find there are many more civilians that have preconcieved notions about Satanism than there are LEOs or Soldiers (Any Branch).

However, I must point out that my experiences were mine alone and may not reflect what other members of this forum have endured. Law Enforcement varies greatly depending on agency, state and locality.
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#420116 - 05/01/10 08:15 PM Re: Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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If I might- just a thought-you mentioned your father's longevity with the department- have you told him first? News travels fast.While you are always free to make your own choices- you also get to take your own responsiblity. Personal opinion where he may also be asked about your choice-don't let him be blind sided.
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#420192 - 05/02/10 07:28 PM Re: Satanism [Re: lhpjeffery]
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Loc: Florida
Thank you, for posting this topic.
I have been considering joining the Police Force.

I'm deep into criminal justice and if I want to do anything with it... It looks like law or cop. I'm really considering the FBI, but I would still need at least 5yrs as a cop to get a feel for it, and to finish my degree.

As far as mixing business with pleasure goes... or even just letting my co-workers get to know me...
It never crossed my mind, to let it get brought up. For the most part, I find, using policy keeps people form asking "It's not appropriate."
I tell them if they want to discuss it, I'll talk to them about it after work... If they really want to know. Most never ask again.
However I find on the rare occasion when they do... Ask if they know who LaVey is?
It doesn't really lead to much continued discussion.
If it does...I wait to cross that bridge when it comes up.

An observation: Few people meet my standards.
On the rare occasion we can share some aspect of this philosophy, I indulge it for what it is. The value of what they offer me intellectually isn't worth the price I pay to risk my secret. If the gain were worth more to me than my risk, I would consider it.
I can count on 1 hand the people who matter in my life, who know and don't care what I identify with.
There my friends regardless, and I'm there's till proven otherwise.

I would expect, that having to put your life in the hand of your colleagues, as Cops sometimes have to. That it would be prudent to build strong relationships, were it shouldn't matter.

So I'd play it by ear, and ask?
Is it necessary to know?
Wouldn't a Satanist give himself away in her/his action anyway? Shouldn't we do the same?
I say keep them guessing.
Then the loser is the one who asks first.
But that's me.

Good Luck, pursuing you chosen career. It's a noble cause. I'm glad to see there are so many level headed, people in the field all over the U.S.
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#420343 - 05/03/10 08:10 PM Re: Satanism [Re: I'mPerfecting]
Josephine007 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/04
Posts: 620
Loc: Zero Point Field
I was a cop for six years. I know Satanists that are cops now.

The general consensus is keep your head down and your mouth shut.

In my career (I am 38 years old) I have told exactly ONE co-worker about my affiliation but that was after establishing a friendship with them over about eight years. I felt I could trust them and their discretion and so far have not been let down.

You will see folks tell you to trumpet your beliefs and you will see others tell you to play it close to the vest (as is my personal opinion).

At the end of the day...once it is out, you can't take it back.

You can't "untell" a secret.

This is, of course, my own opinion. The fellow officer I am friends with feels the same and keeps his affiliation on the down low as well.

Ultimately it is your decision. Choose wisely.
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