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#418663 - 04/15/10 05:06 AM Lack of perspective
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Registered: 12/07/09
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Iíve got a lot of levels I want to be at in certain areas, but sometimes when things are not getting there fast enough, despite knowing that eventually there will be an end result and everything I am working towards will be worth it in the end, itís hard not to be overwhelmed by how much there is to do, especially when there is only one life time to do it in.

Now Iím sensible enough to know I just have to keep at it, bide my time and know that eventually if I can indeed cut the mustard, eventually I will. I keep the 6th Satanic Sin in mind at all times, but what I would be interested in is a nudge in the right direction towards some invaluable reading material from wiser Satanists who have gotten to where they want to be and can understand what it is like for a younger Satanist who still has a long way to go and doesnít want to be bogged down by the Ďaverageí mentality that is being drilled into people from a young age.

I donít to be handed answers on a plate, but I am interested in suggestions of reading material I wouldnít have thought of or be aware of that can be priceless when it comes to motivation and discipline.
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#418688 - 04/15/10 10:47 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
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I don't consider myself to be a "wiser" Satanist, but if you don't mind feedback from a young man in a somewhat similar position, perhaps I can be of help.

For inspirational reading material, I find the Satanic Bible to be a wise choice to read every so often. It's easy to get caught up in the mediocrity and herd thinking that surrounds us without even realizing it, and periodically re-reading the Satanic Bible serves for me as a sort of mental tune-up to help me keep perspective.

Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand, is also a good read, if you have time for it (it's 1100+ pages). While I cannot rightly call myself an Objectivist, I immensely enjoyed the story. The premise is: What would happen if all the world's most talented, productive people chose to go on strike and refuse to work, leaving the herd to fend for themselves?

If you're interested in advice beyond reading material, I can share other things that I found personally motivating. Since I don't know the specifics of what you're trying to accomplish, I thought it best in this case to curb my long-winded tendencies. jack
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#418703 - 04/15/10 04:01 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
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In addition to Ayn Raynd, I find Friedrich Nietzsche's works inspiring as well. Naturally, I recommend The Antichrist.

Recently I've also read Desmond Morris' The Naked Ape, which I found extremely insightful.
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#418704 - 04/15/10 04:39 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: M.D. Roche]
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Recently I've also read Desmond Morris' The Naked Ape, which I found extremely insightful.

You might want to find his book The Human Zoo as well.

Also if you can get the following books by Robert Ardrey they are worth a read as well
African Genesis
The Territorial Imperative
The Hunting Hypothesis
The Social Contract
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#418706 - 04/15/10 05:30 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
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#418722 - 04/15/10 09:25 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Machismo]
TrojZyr Offline
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Offhand, I would recommend:

"The 48 Laws of Power," "The Art of Attraction," and "The 33 Strategies of War," all by Robert Greene.

"Zorba the Greek," by Nikos Kazantzakis.

"The Lucifer Effect," by Philip Zimbardo.

"Predictably Irrational," by Dan Ariely.

"The Sea Wolf," by Jack London.

"I Sing the Body Electric," by Ray Bradbury.

"Dandelion Wine" and "Farewell Summer" by Ray Bradbury.

"Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness," by Richard H. Thaler and Cass R. Sunstein.

"Dealing with People You Can't Stand,"
by Dr. Rick Brinkman and Dr. Rick Kirschner.
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#418726 - 04/15/10 09:57 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
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How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World by Harry Browne.

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#418728 - 04/15/10 10:10 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Nemo]
Quaark Offline

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Originally Posted By: Nemo
How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World by Harry Browne.


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#418730 - 04/16/10 12:25 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Nemo]
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My copy is in the mail being shipped.

When I checked it out from the library I didn't want to give it back. grin
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#418744 - 04/16/10 03:23 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
Skjalandir Offline


Registered: 12/07/09
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Loc: England
Fantastic. In looking into some of these titles they are exactly what I need, and others are things I would have never thought about reading about. Thank you all very much.
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He claimed atoms were the littlest
When you did a bit of splittingen-ness
Frighten everybody shitless
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#418764 - 04/16/10 08:58 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Quaark]
TrojZyr Offline
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Originally Posted By: Daark
Originally Posted By: Nemo
How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World by Harry Browne.


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Good luck finding it, though! I had to stalk ebay and Amazon for months before a cheap(er) copy popped up.

But, it was well worth the money and effort, I'd say.
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#418769 - 04/16/10 09:08 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: TrojZyr]
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I now have three copies I've found in used book stores for 25 cents each. I've found at least a dozen over the years!

grin

I always pick them up when I see them to give away to friends.

"The Richest Man in Babylon" I put in the same category of "Awesome and Timeless" and buy every copy I run across, although that one is mostly about money.

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#418787 - 04/16/10 11:31 AM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Quaark]
TrojZyr Offline
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Lucky ducky. I think the luckiest I've been in that regard is finding a copy of Watchmen at a thrift store for a dollar.

Oh, and come to think of it, my Desmond Morris books came from the thrift store, too.
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"Gentlemen, the verdict is guilty, on all ten counts of first-degree stupidity. The penalty phase will now begin."--Divine, "Pink Flamingos."

"The strong rule the weak, and the cunning rule over all." HS!

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#418793 - 04/16/10 12:51 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: Skjalandir]
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Speaking of literature, here's a question I've been meaning to ask for a while:

Dr. LaVey always cited Mark Twain as a significant influence. Which of his works particularly relate to Satanism? Letters from the Earth, perhaps? I imagine he wasn't talking about Tom Sawyer or Huckelberry Finn, though I may be wrong.
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#418795 - 04/16/10 01:03 PM Re: Lack of perspective [Re: M.D. Roche]
Quaark Offline

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While some of Twain's works are obviously imbued with blatant Satanic themes, nearly every word he ever wrote has a certain sardonic, sarcastic, wry and cynical flavor that meshes quite well with the broad spectrum misanthropism of Satanism.

Even the "childhood classics".

It's there for those who are primed to look for it, but well under the radar for those who aren't.

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