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#426035 - 07/08/10 10:18 AM The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?!
JCLAG Offline
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Here is a letter I sent to Chuck Lindell of the Austin American-Statesman in response to this article:

Dear Mr. Lindell:

I am writing to address some misconceptions and false information presented in your July 5 article, “Satanism Wrongly Used at Trial, Death Row Inmate Argues.”

First, let’s get the most crucial element of this discussion out of the way. According to our current membership roster, Irving Davis is NOT a member of the Church of Satan. Had he been a member at any time, his membership would have been revoked the moment we learned of his heinous crime. The Church of Satan expects its members to be law-abiding, productive members of society – as the multitudes of police officers, firefighters, doctors, soldiers, government workers, teachers, PTA participants, etc. who comprise our numbers clearly demonstrate.

A web search of legitimate, public members of the Church of Satan will reveal an impressive world of successful artists, musicians, authors and other creators working in and out of the mainstream. To put it bluntly, a brutal rapist and murderer such as Irving Davis doesn’t measure up to the Church of Satan’s definitions of decency, conduct and – above all - Satanism.

Anton LaVey founded the Church of Satan in 1966 as a way to acknowledge and celebrate man’s carnal nature, and we Satanists embrace “Satan” as a symbol of our natural inclinations. Satanists are free to indulge in whatever aesthetic, political and sexual activities please them – as long as those activities are legal. Satanists abide by the concept of “responsibility to the responsible.” If we are to indulge in the freedoms given to us by our citizenship, then we are also to live within the legal structures of our society. Failure to do will lead to expulsion from the Church of Satan.

As a parent, I applaud the prosecutors in this case for doing their jobs and working to eliminate such a menace from our streets. However, the Satanist in me is unconvinced that the prosecutors are after Davis for the right reasons. The Church of Satan is absolutely not “an organization that condones and encourages human sacrifice and other illegal acts” as the prosecution and unnamed “religious experts” in this story suggest. A read through The Satanic Bible – or even a swift trip through Wikipedia – will make it clear that legitimate Satanists abhor the harming of children and animals. The truth about the Church of Satan has been out there since 1966 – for those who genuinely want to know it. Anyone who would commit a crime against a child or animal in the name of “Satan” is nothing more than a heretical Christian and obviously a person who holds nothing in common with the true Satanic philosophy. The prosecution would do well to keep this in mind as they proceed with this case; otherwise, this could be another hysteria-driven debacle akin to the West Memphis Three case of the 1990s. We Satanists are all for punishment that fits the crime, just as long as that crime isn’t one’s application of legitimate Satanism.

In closing, I join my fellow Church of Satan members in mourning young Melissa Medina. Such an unnecessary loss of life is a tragedy to the Satanist, and we grieve for this young woman’s loved ones and friends. We wish for nothing but the swiftest justice for Melissa and peace for those who knew and loved her.

Sincerely,

Joel Gausten
Warlock, Church of Satan
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#426036 - 07/08/10 10:26 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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#426037 - 07/08/10 10:36 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
Spelled Moon Offline
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Registered: 12/25/08
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Excellent response, Warlock.

Quote:
Prosecutor Lily Stroud said the evidence was meant to show that Davis had chosen to affiliate with an organization that condones and encourages human sacrifice and other illegal acts.


"Great" prosecutor, for sure.

'Shoots' statements about 'organization', while she apparently didn't make a single effort to understand at least basics.

It's a shame.

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#426040 - 07/08/10 11:51 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Spelled Moon]
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Registered: 04/15/10
Posts: 295
Loc: In the Belly of the Beast.
I agree with Spelled Moon, excellent response!

I wonder what Lindell's thoughts are after reading your response.

I hope Davis gets the death penalty!
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#426046 - 07/08/10 01:09 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Venom]
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Originally Posted By: Mærc
I hope Davis gets the death penalty!



...again.

And this time carry it out.

It has always been my contention that, although it has not happened since, what (?) the days of the "Old West" when a killer was convicted on Monday and hung on Tuesday, once convicted of such a crime the sentence should be carried out. Period. No delays. But, with all the "bleeding hearts" out there who are worried about the "rights" of these animals, it has came down to the fact that there are "people" who were convicted of murder in the late 1960s who are STILL ALIVE TODAY! And they were sentenced to the death penalty. WTF?

Apologies. I read such articles and "lose it."

The person was convicted of murder, then decides on death row that he is a Satanist and wants an appeal on his conviction because he is not allowed to "practice his new religion?"
From what I read in the article, Satanism didn't come up in his original trial, since he "found" it in prison. So, what gave him the right to appeal the conviction on the grounds that the prison officials wouldn't give him the items he thought he was entitled to?

IF he was a Satanist, he wouldn't have been in prison in the first place............. I know, preaching to the choir. Again, apologies.

Excellent letter to the reporter Warlock Gausten.
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#426066 - 07/08/10 07:00 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Wonderful job. tiki
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#426105 - 07/09/10 08:41 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: ]
JCLAG Offline
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Perhaps. smile
Thanks, all!
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#426135 - 07/09/10 05:07 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Bravo!

This guy is a major fucking moron. Right, so you're already a rapist murderer now attach "Satanist" to the prefixes on your name and see how that works out in a positive way.

Fuckin' mind boggling.

Public executions need to make a strong come back.
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#426148 - 07/09/10 09:39 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Warlock Gausten, that was a superbly crafted letter.

I feel you touched on every important point and nailed it down perfectly.

It was simply a pleasure to read ...over and over.

Thank you!!

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#426156 - 07/09/10 11:01 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Nemo]
JCLAG Offline
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Thank you, Magister Nemo!
Your enjoyment of my work is the greatest compliment I could've received.


Edited by JCLAG (07/09/10 11:02 PM)
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#426624 - 07/15/10 05:33 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Bravo, my friend! Bravo!
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#426630 - 07/15/10 07:15 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Magister_Harris]
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Loc: United States
Funny, I sent an e-mail (representing my own opinions, not the CoS' of course) to Texas court of appeals Judge Michael Keasler regarding his comments described in the exact article you referenced. Never received a response though. Regardless, well said Warlock.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who felt this case was worthy of some attention.


Edited by Iscariot (07/15/10 07:17 PM)
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#426635 - 07/15/10 11:15 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Iscariot]
JCLAG Offline
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As far as I can see, my letter was never printed nor responded to. It's been a week, so I think it's safe to say the Statesman has no interest in the truth. No surprise.
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#426636 - 07/15/10 11:15 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Magister_Harris]
JCLAG Offline
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Thanks smile
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#426715 - 07/17/10 04:16 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Registered: 07/11/10
Posts: 26
Loc: Colorado
I wouldn't call it just yet... Your letter was provocative, interesting, and challenging - traits that garner interest, which result in revenue for them.

I, for one, hope to see it printed, as well as the fallout!

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#427097 - 07/21/10 08:25 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Loc: Ohio
Though a little late due to moving.....

Thank you for writing such a well formed, thoughtful, and crafted letter Warlock Gausten. Great job.
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#427268 - 07/23/10 01:00 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Plague]
JCLAG Offline
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Thank you!
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#427283 - 07/23/10 04:17 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
Roger Offline
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Although I can not speak for the CoS because I am yet not a member. I thank you for an excellent letter!
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#427541 - 07/26/10 07:32 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Roger]
JCLAG Offline
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Thank you very much. smile
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#427985 - 07/31/10 10:30 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
DanielM Offline



Registered: 07/20/10
Posts: 24
Loc: Kintuhkee, Yew-Ess-Ay
Great job! But one point I'd like to clear up.

Originally Posted By: JCLAG
According to our current membership roster, Irving Davis is NOT a member of the Church of Satan.


As a newbie who is still toying with the decision of whether to join or not, my eyebrows rose when I read this. I was under the impression that there are no publicized membership lists, that members can remain completely anonymous if they wish, that CoS will keep members' names and addresses in the strictest confidencce, and that whatever membership records exist are only accessible to CoS's adminstrators (I presume Peter Gilmore plus a few others).

Am I wrong about this? Is there some membership roster that's accessible to the public, or even just to rank and file CoS members?
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#427988 - 07/31/10 10:51 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: DanielM]
JCLAG Offline
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No, the membership list is not available to the public.

In the case of Irving Davis, this is a different situation, as this individual was making claims that were not true. The CoS has the right to promote accuracy in the media. Nothing inappropriate was revealed, as he was not a member. This information regarding his non-membership was provided to me when I was asked to write an official CoS response to the news story. I am a media rep for the CoS, but I do not have any access whatsoever to the official roster.

If you have any further questions regarding member privacy, it would be best to contact Administration directly.

HS!
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#427991 - 07/31/10 11:10 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Originally Posted By: JCLAG
The CoS has the right to promote accuracy in the media. Nothing inappropriate was revealed, as he was not a member.


Certainly, and had the letter been written from whatever central offices the CoS has, I wouldn't have even asked.

Originally Posted By: JCLAG
This information regarding his non-membership was provided to me when I was asked to write an official CoS response to the news story. I am a media rep for the CoS, but I do not have any access whatsoever to the official roster. [emphasis mine]


Fine, that clears it up. smile

I suspected something like that might be the case, but the letter didn't explicitly say so. However, I understand that letters to the editor have to be constructed for brevity and that it is impractical to expect someone writing such a letter to fully explain how they know facts to be true -- so my point is certainly not to be critical. I just wanted some reassurance that you were not making that statement solely on your own initiative, or if you were, an explanation of how you got your information.

Thanks for the quick response, and again I thought the letter as a whole was right on target.



Edited by DanielM (07/31/10 11:12 AM)
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#427999 - 07/31/10 12:43 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: DanielM]
JCLAG Offline
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No problem smile
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#430299 - 08/27/10 02:14 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Loc: California
On reading the article and response, It came to me that there must be a line of clergy tring to get him saved.

Imagine that headline, "Satanist becomes christian, denounces Satan"....then the lauding, the interviews, hell, the book!

I say let him be judged by his peers; put him in general population for, oh, ten minutes.

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#430553 - 08/29/10 09:27 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Ferocious Beast]
JCLAG Offline
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Actually, the headline would read: "Already-Wacko Christian Gets Wackier, Denounces Imaginary Horned Friend."
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#430572 - 08/30/10 01:43 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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I have read this article numerous amounts of times now. I just wanted to say that I really appreciate it a lot. You spoke in such a fluent and coherent way that it was like a knife through hot butter.
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#430591 - 08/30/10 01:32 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Unknown]
JCLAG Offline
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Thanks!
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#431965 - 09/14/10 08:20 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Was a correction ever printed in response to your letter? Did they ever contact you in response? I would deny Irving Davis everything in his cell and would force him to look at pictures of what he did to Melissa Medina 24/7 at the very least. He has no rights and is not worthy to read TSB or practice Satanism in any way. I would go as far as cutting out his tongue so that he could not speak Satanic words. Remove his eyes so that he could not read Satanic material, and in a final effort chop of his hands so that he could not read by brail.

Your letter serves as a reminder to the ignorant that Satanists are champions of Justice, and I thank you for sending it to, Mr. Lindell. When I meet up with you I would like to buy you a drink.

HS!
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#432158 - 09/16/10 12:13 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Lust]
JCLAG Offline
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No reply whatsoever. I don't believe they even published it.
In any event, I look forward to my free vodka. smile
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#432190 - 09/16/10 10:17 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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You got it and that makes two.
Reporters are indeed a one sided breed.
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#432241 - 09/16/10 10:47 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: Lust]
JCLAG Offline
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Well, not all reporters...
smile
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#435078 - 10/14/10 12:50 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Registered: 10/14/10
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Excellent word performance. You laid it all out on the line. It is really ignorant for people to believe the Church of Satan condones such behaviors. Start checking your facts before you spread such farces.


Edited by Genevieve (10/15/10 12:17 AM)
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#435140 - 10/15/10 12:16 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Registered: 10/14/10
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Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
Excellent article. It is really ignorant for people to believe the Church of Satan condones such behaviors. Start checking your facts before you spread such farces.
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#440543 - 12/16/10 09:06 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
Matthew Miles Offline
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Very well written letter. It really isn't a surprise to know they did not post it because they would have to go against what they had said and for some that is a hard thing to do. Rather than admit they printedmisinformation they chose to ignore truth. This certainly isn't the first time it has happened and it most certainly won't be the last.

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#440608 - 12/17/10 12:04 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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Your letter was indeed very well done, but I fear the insight contained in it will be overlooked and ignored in future cases where the "defendant" mentions the word Satan. Especially when the media gets hold of it. The name Satan I guess is forever linked with sensationalism.
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#440626 - 12/17/10 05:05 AM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: JCLAG]
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An excellent response. Very well said.
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#449284 - 04/12/11 12:14 PM Re: The CoS Condones Animal Sacrifice & Murder?!?!?! [Re: DCLXVI]
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"It has always been my contention that, although it has not happened since, what (?) the days of the "Old West" when a killer was convicted on Monday and hung on Tuesday, once convicted of such a crime the sentence should be carried out. Period. No delays. "

I wholeheartedly agree.
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