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#435151 - 10/15/10 09:25 AM You have got to be kidding me...
Zsche Offline



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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2010/10/15/pkg.can.church.cross.globaltv?hpt=T2

I wonder if I will have created enough psychological melodrama that people will kiss the sarcophagus that holds my rotting flesh when I am dead?

I hope the fuck not.
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My suggestion to you, besides obtaining a copy of The Satanic Bible and reading it, is to immerse yourself in the information contained at the Church of Satan website.

Originally Posted By: Hagen von Tronje
You can't guzzle whiskey and pinch pretty ladies' asses when you're dead.

Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
Love life. Live life. Don't fuck with people unnecessarily. Don"t let other people fuck with you. Simple guidelines that that will help you to make informed, intelligent and Satanic decisions.

Originally Posted By: Callier
Constructive criticism is one thing but people that just point blank tell others what they should be doing with their lives without any kind of permission can eat a bag of hairy balls.

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#435155 - 10/15/10 09:45 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
Waya Offline
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It don't surprise me at all. 'rolls eyes'
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#435157 - 10/15/10 09:54 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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Why is it always that when religious objects are moist it's weeping? It could be sexually aroused by all the religious people touching it.

But seriously, this doesn't surprise me at all as I've seen people worshiping a urine stain on a wall that apparently looked like their zombie savior. Hermann Rorschach would have a field day with that one.

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#435160 - 10/15/10 10:31 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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It is, evedently, nothing more than condensation.
The worshippers of the cosmic zomby are brain dead sheep and belive anything and everything they are told.

Evidence the "images" of the alledged virgin on a damned blueberry muffin, etc.
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#435164 - 10/15/10 11:47 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: DCLXVI]
Zsche Offline



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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4034787.stm

...it's a grilled cheese fucking sandwich.
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Originally Posted By: Phineas
My suggestion to you, besides obtaining a copy of The Satanic Bible and reading it, is to immerse yourself in the information contained at the Church of Satan website.

Originally Posted By: Hagen von Tronje
You can't guzzle whiskey and pinch pretty ladies' asses when you're dead.

Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
Love life. Live life. Don't fuck with people unnecessarily. Don"t let other people fuck with you. Simple guidelines that that will help you to make informed, intelligent and Satanic decisions.

Originally Posted By: Callier
Constructive criticism is one thing but people that just point blank tell others what they should be doing with their lives without any kind of permission can eat a bag of hairy balls.

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#435168 - 10/15/10 12:11 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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It's embarressing to think that these retards live in my country.

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#435171 - 10/15/10 01:10 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
Nahash Prince Offline



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That is a result of programming at it's best. And the bad thing about it is, they refuse to reason within themselves in word and deed.
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#435173 - 10/15/10 02:28 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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Ah... well it isn't that different from, say, following U2 on a world tour -- except you have to remember that these people don't ever really fuck so their sexual fantasies will be quite weird. However, nothing that can't be hidden under a priestly frock and a pious image.
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#435174 - 10/15/10 02:49 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: XUL]
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Lol...I like that XUL. You’ve made a very good point. The priesthood's circle has always been the place of action.
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#435177 - 10/15/10 04:19 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Grima]
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To be fair it's not always tears. There was some saintly chick who got locked up and breast fed her kid from behind the bars. When she died in jail her breast still miraculously lactated to keep the baby alive. I'm afraid I can't find her name online, Google only gave me a lactating statue of Angelina Jolie, but statues of this saint have also been said to give milk from time to time. My biggest regret in the matter is I can't think up a joke about religious nuts trying to force a baby to suckle its dead parents postmortem effluvium, as is what likely inspired the tale.

Let's also not forget the menstruating Mary of South Park or the ejaculating St. Peter that my college roommate spent so long planning. Oh, and they cry blood a lot too, at least in 90s religious horror and The X-Files.
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#435180 - 10/15/10 05:45 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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Originally Posted By: Shrine Administrator from video
Something is happening here...


Yeah it's called condensation. Lol!

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#435184 - 10/15/10 06:36 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
anna Offline


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I don't know how it is in America but in our country it is quite normal to kiss not only a sarcophagus of a saint but also a coffin of a relative or a friend just to show love and respect.

As regards this so called miracle I doubt if it is ever to be accepted by Rome. It's too grotesque. Some people miss miracles, perhaps they are unsure of their own faith, so they need a proof, even if it is a ridiculous one.

Well, it's so hard to explain to the atheist the difference between a genuine miracle and a fake one. I'm not a theologian and anyway it's so subjective. For me everything that happens in my daily life is a miracle. I don't think that things just happen, everything has a purpose and meaning. I do not need any other proof.

A lovely song smile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Yzo05hbAc
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#435185 - 10/15/10 06:57 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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I was so totally expecting you to link to this:

Another lovely song wink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs
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#435187 - 10/15/10 07:33 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Delta]
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Oh hell, how come I never have any pee stains of jesus or anything like that? I feel so left out!

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#435188 - 10/15/10 08:03 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Delta]
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And I was expecting you to post this cynical song, I hate hip hop.
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#435189 - 10/15/10 08:11 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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Originally Posted By: anna
I do not need any other proof.


That is exactly the problem with the logic of types like yourself, and that is exactly the kind of thinking that is abhorred and openly mocked here. Something to keep in mind if you find yourself recieving negative reactions and are not happy with the results.

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#435192 - 10/15/10 09:01 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: TheDegenerate]
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Now, Now, Now TheDegenerate. We can do better than that. Anna has every right to argue her point, you think? After all, her argument was well understood and written. Shouldn’t we respond respectfully with our arguments? I agree with your response to anna. But it is not what we say, but how we say it.

I have been guilty of the same, over seven years ago. I came to this board with knowledge, but had no understanding. I too have disrespectfully responded towards some on this very board. Only to have found that later, I admirer them. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as we learn from it.

Not all Satanist are CoS members, but all CoS members are Satanist. I’m sure that I will continue to say things critical, that’s o.k. Is it not why we come hear? As long as I am respectfully corrected, I have no problems.

We do have to look beyond names, color of names and badges if we want this board to be effective. Let us not compromise this board as I have done in the pass. This is a public board. How then can we compromise the hard work of those that created it for our enjoyment?

Say what you will. I was given this brief seven years ago. I have experienced being excommunicated a time or two. This was because I knew it all, but did not understand it all. I am not saying I’m going to defend every person that gets hammered. But this particular time, I will respectfully.

There is really no need to say harsh things to someone who may not understand as you. Teach them respectfully if you so will. I learn something from this board every week. Do not take this out of content, but rather process it.
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those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey

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#435193 - 10/15/10 09:38 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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Well anna, I'll put this as gently as possible.

I applaud your applying doubt to said "miracle" but it seems to me that you are dependant on a religious body to tell you what is real and what isn't. I find that truly disturbing. Perhaps you should apply some that doubt to the people "qualified" to dub something a miracle or a sham.

I'll provide an informative link that covers what I consider to be the archetypical religionist.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862/DSECTION=symptoms

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#435204 - 10/16/10 12:12 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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Quote:
There is really no need to say harsh things to someone who may not understand as you.


Harsh? I thought it was rather polite, considering.
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#435205 - 10/16/10 12:25 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: HellofallHells]
Nahash Prince Offline



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As you wish Warlock. It doesn’t change my argument. Until next time HS! Let the board move on.
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those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey

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#435206 - 10/16/10 01:40 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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The only thing that I've perceived as "harsh" in this thread were those YouTube links. vomit

I don't even understand entirely why she's here when this is clearly a Satanic forum, and she is clearly not a Satanist.

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#435207 - 10/16/10 01:41 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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Originally Posted By: Youngwolf
Now, Now, Now TheDegenerate. We can do better than that. Anna has every right to argue her point, you think? After all, her argument was well understood and written. Shouldn’t we respond respectfully with our arguments? I agree with your response to anna. But it is not what we say, but how we say it.


Every right to argue, and every right to be shot down by someone who thinks she is wrong.

Originally Posted By: Youngwolf

Not all Satanist are CoS members, but all CoS members are Satanist.


Yeah? You sure about that? Utterly besides the point, so I don't know why you even bring it up.

Originally Posted By: Youngwolf

We do have to look beyond names, color of names and badges if we want this board to be effective. Let us not compromise this board as I have done in the pass. This is a public board. How then can we compromise the hard work of those that created it for our enjoyment?


Nothing to do with rank, buddy boy. I was just pointing out that saying things like "faith" on a board full of Satanists is like serving whiskey at an AA meeting.

Originally Posted By: Youngwolf

Say what you will. I was given this brief seven years ago. I have experienced being excommunicated a time or two. This was because I knew it all, but did not understand it all. I am not saying I’m going to defend every person that gets hammered. But this particular time, I will respectfully.


You can defend whoever you like, but you are not making any sense, and you are not coming up with any valid reasons with which to defend my so called "harsh attacks", which I prefer to think of as friendly advice. If you recall I was one of the only people defending a Christian on a Satanic message board on the grounds that they would probably weed themselves out eventually and didn't need help from the peanut gallery to do so.

Originally Posted By: Youngwolf

There is really no need to say harsh things to someone who may not understand as you. Teach them respectfully if you so will. I learn something from this board every week. Do not take this out of content, but rather process it.


Thanks pal, but I'll choose what is worth "processing", and this ain't it.

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#435210 - 10/16/10 02:11 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Mr_47]
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Originally Posted By: Mr_47
The only thing that I've perceived as "harsh" in this thread were those YouTube links


Their use at Gitmo was ruled a violation of the Geneva Conventions. wink
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#435213 - 10/16/10 02:30 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Delta]
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grin

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#435230 - 10/16/10 06:50 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Mr_47]
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When 'god' is seen chatting with Oprah, then will I believe in miracles.
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#435235 - 10/16/10 08:41 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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Originally Posted By: Youngwolf
Now, Now, Now TheDegenerate. We can do better than that. Anna has every right to argue her point, you think? After all, her argument was well understood and written. Shouldn’t we respond respectfully with our arguments? I agree with your response to anna. But it is not what we say, but how we say it.

I have been guilty of the same, over seven years ago. I came to this board with knowledge, but had no understanding. I too have disrespectfully responded towards some on this very board. Only to have found that later, I admirer them. There is nothing wrong with that, as long as we learn from it.

Not all Satanist are CoS members, but all CoS members are Satanist. I’m sure that I will continue to say things critical, that’s o.k. Is it not why we come hear? As long as I am respectfully corrected, I have no problems.

We do have to look beyond names, color of names and badges if we want this board to be effective. Let us not compromise this board as I have done in the pass. This is a public board. How then can we compromise the hard work of those that created it for our enjoyment?

Say what you will. I was given this brief seven years ago. I have experienced being excommunicated a time or two. This was because I knew it all, but did not understand it all. I am not saying I’m going to defend every person that gets hammered. But this particular time, I will respectfully.

There is really no need to say harsh things to someone who may not understand as you. Teach them respectfully if you so will. I learn something from this board every week. Do not take this out of content, but rather process it.


Are you friggin kidding me with this reply?

First off, I think your opening is pretty condescending. The Degenerate can obviously handle his own reply, but since you're walking the line of civilian policing, I'm technically stepping in and telling you to shut it.

I don't think a Christian perspective is any more welcome or needed here than a Satanic reply would be in their circles. Given that fact, I think his reply was pretty damn polite. Regarding your comment about "teaching" folks that don't understand, you've told quite a bit about your own understanding about the purpose of this board and the religion in general. That, coupled with your admission of "excommunication" in the past leaves me with enough info to mentally red flag your name.

Your statement about ALL registered CoS members being Satanists made me outright laugh, by the way. Your entire soapbox sermon was so off the mark that it stands as nothing short of ridiculous. Please…. go find the "understanding" to go with your "knowledge" before lecturing anyone else.
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#435255 - 10/16/10 12:39 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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On the other hand, expecting that Anna will approach issues from anything other than a Catholic perspective is pure folly. She's here, she's made her intentions clear, and the mods seem to have no problem with her at this time, so derailing every thread to nag the Christian for holding Christian beliefs--beliefs which are especially unlikely to change in the face of nagging or sniping--seems to me to be a waste of energy.

Sheep will be sheep, and goats will be goats, no matter how much or how long they argue, dialogue, or study.
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#435260 - 10/16/10 02:16 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: munt]
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When 'god' is seen chatting with Oprah, then will I believe in miracles.


When you are looking at Oprah on a television set you are directly looking at the one-eyed God of the masses already. wink

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#435266 - 10/16/10 03:10 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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Originally Posted By: anna
Well, it's so hard to explain to the atheist the difference between a genuine miracle and a fake one. I'm not a theologian and anyway it's so subjective. For me everything that happens in my daily life is a miracle. I don't think that things just happen, everything has a purpose and meaning. I do not need any other proof.



Source

"As a realist who doesn’t believe in God I am often challenged to open my heart and let Jesus in. I am reluctant to do so without any evidence that God exists.

I am told that when one becomes a believer that they have a personal relationship with God and the God transforms you and you become one with the Lord. So from my point of view I should be able to see the difference in the behavior of those who believe as compared to those who don’t believe. But I’m not seeing it. Especially in the latest news coming out about the sexual abuse of children in the Catholic Church.

So let me be clear and direct about this so you Catholics listen up. If there is an omnipotent God and a person or a religious group has a personal relationship with God then you wouldn’t be raping children – period! The Catholic Church would not be covering up for those priests who are raping children. Admittedly, this doesn’t prove that God doesn’t exist, but it does prove that the Catholic Church does not have a personal relationship with an omnipotent God, because if they did this sort of thing simply would not occur.

As a member of the reality based community I am dedicated to believing in anything that is real. If God is real then I will believe. But how am I to determine if God is actually and truly real and which of the thousands of religions it is true one? Turning to your Bible the standard is “You will know them by their fruits.” Clearly the Catholics have failed the “fruit test” because of the pervasive raping of children and the cover up by the Vatican.

As to the rest of religions and independent Christians, Muslims, or other believers, you aren’t going to convert Atheists unless you can show us that God actually has transformed your life in a way that is observable to the reality based world. Even if God can’t be observed directly, if you claim God has changed your life then those changes should be observable in your life and in your religious group as a whole. And if these changes aren’t observable then we in the reality based community aren’t going to listen to what you have to say. If you are going to convert Atheists you are going to have to pass your “Fruit Test” to get our attention."

I am interested in your response to the above.
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#435270 - 10/16/10 04:27 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: munt]
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Originally Posted By: munt
When 'god' is seen chatting with Oprah, then will I believe in miracles.


Well, God certainly could use the ratings boost.
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#435278 - 10/16/10 04:52 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Mr_47]
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I can see your argument Mr_47. I can also argue that we speak to non-Satanist all the time, why should she be any different. How can anyone come to their self awareness if we refuse to dialog with them? How can they understand if we shun them away? For sure, there are some that deserves hammering. However, I perceive that she is not one of them.

I think that she is sincere and needs to understand. As so many of you have done for me in the pass. If it had not been for this board and the few that have help me understand things, I would have been still ignorant to self. Ignorant within the Christian programming that many have become falling victim to in this Country.

Are we not the Elite? What example should we show? We would be no better than the herd if we do what they do? We are intelligent enough to tell when someone is toying with us. Read her posts. She is sincere from what I have been reading. I don’t think she is mocking.

Some people will make statements, but they are actually asking. This is what I perceive. Many have been there before. Not all of us have been fortunate to have come from a good stock. That does not mean that we can’t be taught.

So then shall we say, “Do not speak to those who do not understand and are not in our circle?” How much better then are we vs. the Christian? It is the Satanist that poses questions of thought which can free minds. If the christens say, “Come and break bread with me, I will change you.” Then a Satanist can say, “Come and commune with me and I will cause you to think.”


Edited by Youngwolf (10/16/10 04:56 PM)
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#435284 - 10/16/10 05:08 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: TheDegenerate]
Nahash Prince Offline



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You have a right also to respond to my argument. I see you don’t like drinking out of your own cup? But I am not here to go back and forth with you. Say and do as you wish. This is not the youngwolf show or yours. Now I spoke and you’ve replied.

I think the board should move on. My argument will not change. There are much more important things and much to learn on this board. HS! Now let the board move on.
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those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey

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#435286 - 10/16/10 05:18 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Bruja]
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You too have a right to your argument. I spoke, you’ve respond. Now I’m responding to you. My argument will not change. Do and say as you wish. HS! Now let the board move on.
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those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual
development", has become the most vicious animal of all!"...Dr. La Vey

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#435287 - 10/16/10 05:24 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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How nice of you to give us permission to move on. Is there anything else we can do for you while we're at it?
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#435288 - 10/16/10 05:34 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Lust]
anna Offline


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There was an interesting comment on the article you posted:

"Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car."

Merely belonging to a religious organization or even being a priest does not make you a good person. Neither does saying in public that you have some kind of personal relationship with God. Church rituals are there to help you but what you do with it is entirely up to you.


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Even if God can’t be observed directly, if you claim God has changed your life then those changes should be observable in your life and in your religious group as a whole.


I agree, it's not what you say but what you do that counts. Your behaviour towards other people is the key. Converting Atheists by mere preaching is, at least in my opinion, pointless and I hope that I do not preach here. You cannot prove that God does or doesn't exist, belief is not a science. But your deeds show what kind of person you are.

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Clearly the Catholics have failed the “fruit test” because of the pervasive raping of children and the cover up by the Vatican


I met many priests in my life and I wasn't raped by any of them. Perhaps I'm not that attractive grin But seriously speeking, the problem is that you overgeneralize. Many priests are decent people, some are evil. However, if you find some rotten apples it doesn't mean that apples generally are bad.

Child molestation is a huge problem for the Church, if Vatican does not cope with this it will get into serious troubles. But in such a huge community problems do happen and it is not so easy to solve them.

What I am trying to say is that everybody is responsible for his or her own actions. It is true that priests should serve as an example, but if your priest happens to engage in a criminal activity, there is still no excuse for you for being a scoundrel.
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#435291 - 10/16/10 05:57 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Nahash Prince]
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Originally Posted By: Youngwolf
You too have a right to your argument. I spoke, you’ve respond. Now I’m responding to you. My argument will not change. Do and say as you wish. HS! Now let the board move on.


You really did it now, because I'm not the one.

Thanks for allowing me the right to do and say as I wish. Fortunately for me, I don't need your permission and you won't like what I do. In addition, I don't take kindly to commands, certainly not from you.

The board will indeed move on, but you won't. You've earned yourself a nice temporary ban. I suggest you use it to figure out how to keep it from being a permanent one. Or don't. I'll be more than happy to show you the door again.
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#435292 - 10/16/10 06:05 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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The only scoundrels are the criminal Priests who have hurt children and Catholic hierarchy that protect them.

The ones exposing and asking questions are more than entitled to do so.
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#435295 - 10/16/10 06:19 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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When I saw your post,Nibas, it struck me as odd...
Am I the only persson who has noticed a striking resemblence here?


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Edited by DCLXVI (10/16/10 06:21 PM)
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#435296 - 10/16/10 06:23 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: DCLXVI]
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Heh. That's great. grin
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#435298 - 10/16/10 06:27 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Lust]
anna Offline


Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 221
Loc: Poland
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The only scoundrels are the criminal Priests who have hurt children and Catholic hierarchy that protect them.

The ones exposing and asking questions are more than entitled to do so.


You misunderstood me. I meant that if you, for example, are dishonest and cruel you cannot justify yourself by saying that your priest is no better.
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#435309 - 10/16/10 08:33 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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I understood that and it is a good point. Funny that such an issue even exists and relates with my original response to you in this thread.

I suddenly want to listen to Head Like a Hole.
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#435316 - 10/16/10 10:24 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: DCLXVI]
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Registered: 04/17/09
Posts: 158
Loc: Where the 5.56 casings fall...
Originally Posted By: DCLXVI
When I saw your post,Nibas, it struck me as odd...
Am I the only persson who has noticed a striking resemblence here?


Actually - I hadn't noticed the resemblance until you pointed it out... I was still fixated on what I originally saw:

http://grilledcheesesandwich.org/

I do think I'm going to have to buy one of these though:

http://jesustoasters.com/




Edited by Nibas (10/17/10 11:24 AM)
Edit Reason: Removed possible copyrighted image.
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You can't guzzle whiskey and pinch pretty ladies' asses when you're dead.

Originally Posted By: Roho_the_Rooster
Love life. Live life. Don't fuck with people unnecessarily. Don"t let other people fuck with you. Simple guidelines that that will help you to make informed, intelligent and Satanic decisions.

Originally Posted By: Callier
Constructive criticism is one thing but people that just point blank tell others what they should be doing with their lives without any kind of permission can eat a bag of hairy balls.

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#435319 - 10/16/10 10:52 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
inky Offline


Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 103
Loc: USA
Hehe. Jesus toasters. The body of christ...is served. Now you too can eat a savior and shit a relic.

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#435333 - 10/17/10 02:43 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: inky]
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Registered: 07/08/06
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Originally Posted By: inky
Now you too can eat a savior and shit a relic.


grin grin grin *

That's a fantastic advertising slogan! Bet someone out there could sell that one.

coopdevil crossbones


Edited by Shade (10/17/10 02:44 AM)
Edit Reason: Can't believe I'm laughing this hard at o-shit-thirty in the morning... it's a miracle!
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#435354 - 10/17/10 10:08 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
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Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 221
Loc: Poland
http://jesustoasters.com/

A childish idea but the guy knows how to make money without too much effort.

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I can assure you that, if I achieve excessive amounts of profits from this product, a good portion of those proceeds will go to social causes and the implementation of a viable business model for selling custom toasters in the future. The later will create living wage jobs in northeast Vermont where I live.


You have to believe strongly in miracles to treat that seriously.
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#435356 - 10/17/10 10:47 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Shade]
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Posts: 103
Loc: USA
Thanks Shade. Glad you enjoyed it. grin

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#435357 - 10/17/10 10:53 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
inky Offline


Registered: 03/18/09
Posts: 103
Loc: USA
Uhm, anna, no one is taking it seriously, I suspect that's why it was posted in the first place.

Furthermore, I have to applaud the ingenuity this guy is showing. He's created a product that allows a specific group to experience their own delusions in the form of their morning breakfast. Hell, maybe it is a miracle. Atleast now Jesus is ACTUALLY capable of feeding the masses.

And that's turning a frown upside-down.

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#435368 - 10/17/10 02:16 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 3567
Loc: Cowtown
Originally Posted By: anna
http://jesustoasters.com/

A childish idea but the guy knows how to make money without too much effort.

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I can assure you that, if I achieve excessive amounts of profits from this product, a good portion of those proceeds will go to social causes and the implementation of a viable business model for selling custom toasters in the future. The later will create living wage jobs in northeast Vermont where I live.


You have to believe strongly in miracles to treat that seriously.


The guy is mocking a bunch of retards who think that "miracles" come in the form of edible food products. It's a shame anyone believes in miracles of any kind whatsoever, but the fact that there are some specific individuals who think that their God likes to show up on toast is EXTRA laughable, and SHOULD be mocked to the nth degree.

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#435843 - 10/21/10 10:30 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Bruja]
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Registered: 01/15/03
Posts: 197
Loc: Currently at large
I like my title Bruja. The wolf has been hit on the noise, put in the dog house and chained down. Never-the-less a lesson learned. So, what did this Satanist learn? No matter who you are, there will always be someone with some type of authority over you.

Here on this board, you have it over me. I have reasoned with myself. I have some on this board that is in some way connected to me. This board is a way that I communicate with them. Therefore I must comply with the board’s rules.

My argument concerning Anna has not changed. However what will change is how I should deal with CoS members and higher. It would have been best to have used the PM. I will do it in the future if possible.

It is good to see that Anna is still here. I hope that she has gotten a better understanding of Satanism. Learning is continuous. As a Satanist, we live we learn. Whether on this board or not, “I AM.” Thank you for the time out Bruja. HS!
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#435845 - 10/21/10 10:47 PM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: anna]
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 7140
Loc: Canada
Quote:
But in such a huge community problems do happen and it is not so easy to solve them.

When incidents of sexual abuse became known to the Catholic Church, they took steps to cover it up, and reassigned offenders to positions of authority in new congregations unaware of their crimes, where it is reasonable to assume they would be trusted with children again. So the issue is not just that the Church didn't solve the problem. It's that the Church was part of the problem.

Another option available to them would have been to defrock the offenders, and turn them in to local law enforcement. They typically declined to do so, and we can hold them responsible for that. It goes way beyond a mere oversight or misjudgment of character.


Edited by reprobate (10/21/10 10:52 PM)
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#435972 - 10/23/10 05:17 AM Re: You have got to be kidding me... [Re: Zsche]
Spelled Moon
Unregistered


How about creating holy appearances in usual things and selling them through e-bay?

Smells like good business. coopdevil

Edit: I see I should have read this thread further before posting my very original idea. blush wink

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