#435523 - 10/19/10 02:20 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: Original Sly]
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Registered: 09/27/10
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Loc: Poland
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Drug addicts are just disgusting, filthy, weak individuals who deserve no pity...I'd say they should simply offer cash for sterilization to lower socio-economic scum who spend their days unemployed, drinking, and causing trouble. Who is scum and who isn't is a matter of personal opinion and depends on who is in a position of power to pass that judgement. Now the scum are weak and poor people and I wonder who will be the next to deserve that title. I try not to judge who is worthy and who is unworthy of my pity. And I try not to despise people who are down there at the bottom of the society, because fortune is very changeable and unpredictable. Now the others fall and suffer, next time it could be me. And it wouldn't be nice to be called scum then. Would it?
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#435524 - 10/19/10 02:29 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: anna]
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Registered: 12/08/07
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I try not to judge who is worthy and who is unworthy of my pity.
Give it a whirl sometime! You may like it.
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#435525 - 10/19/10 02:40 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: anna]
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Registered: 12/07/09
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Loc: England
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Fuck that. Just to pull back a bit of pretty internet screen we all carry just for a minute and get real down and dirty; having been homeless and been a worthless member of society, the highlight was spending the night on the 'capital of heroin addiction' in England, a particular street in Derby, with a guy who's skull was showing through various skin diseases contracted through HIV, a 'change in fortune' has fuck all to do with drug addiction, and 'down on my luck' is a different type of scum to some asshole with no character that turns to drugs. Not once did I turn to drugs, and I say anyone that does should be hung publicly. Having rimjobbed the asshole of 'western poverty', there are far more important things I had to think about that getting high. I have even more disgust for someone who has had something and lost it through addiction.
Being despised at the bottom fueled me to pull myself up, and if the abuse causes the weak to cave in hopefully it'll lead to suicide and make it easier for any other Satanists that stumble into the financial kill zone.
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#435533 - 10/19/10 02:58 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: anna]
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Registered: 07/28/01
Posts: 11648
Loc: New England, USA
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Who is scum and who isn't is a matter of personal opinion While the line between "scum" and "not scum" isn't set in stone and there's a lot of room for personal opinion, it's ridiculous to think there aren't any objective standards. If say we're comparing an illiterate serving time on death row for triple homicide, with somebody like Thomas Edison, there's clearly a difference. and depends on who is in a position of power to pass that judgement [sic] I am indeed in a position to pass judgment on another human being, even if I can't enforce anything. Why wouldn't I be? It's MY life that I'm living, and anybody who think I can't examine other people and make decisions and conclusions based off those observations, is delusional. Now the others fall and suffer, next time it could be me.
And it wouldn't be nice to be called scum then. Would it? What does the remote possibility of you being in their position have to do with anything? If I found myself in such a situation, then I'd do what I could to pull myself out. That's what makes me different from the scum.
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#435538 - 10/19/10 03:41 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: anna]
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CoS Priest
Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 10146
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Who is scum and who isn't is a matter of personal opinion and depends on who is in a position of power to pass that judgement.
So? Who is and is not fit to be your spouse is also a matter of personal opinion, but it's one we're all free to make. Satanism acknowledges that men are free to make judgement upon one another. This "only god can judge me" shit is ridiculous; besides the lack of such god, it implies a psychological desire for immunity from one's actions. Sorry, world doesn't work that way. Everyone judges everyone else, that is the way of the world.
Also, power is no small part of what Satanic philosophy is predicated upon. Yes, you will be judged differently based upon which social circle is doing the judging and what becomes of you based on that judgement is a result of who has the power to enforce their judgement. Again, so what? That's life in the real world.
Now the scum are weak and poor people and I wonder who will be the next to deserve that title.
The weak, the poor, the stupid, the pathetic, the helpless, the whiny, the useless, the gullible...the list goes on. Why wonder when you can merely ask?
Satanism is not a white light religion. We do not endorse propping up the worthless in the manner that Christianity does. That does not mean we won't help those we care about, but we also acknowledge that we do it for selfish reasons (as in, they mean something to us personally). Our generosity to friends and family can be considerable, but our charity to the wretched is nonexistent.
I try not to despise people who are down there at the bottom of the society, because fortune is very changeable and unpredictable. Now the others fall and suffer, next time it could be me.
"But for the grace of god, there goes I." What a self degrading platitude that one is! Don't want to end up drunk in a gutter like the hobos? Then don't be a worthless, no working, good for nothing drunk! To imply that folks who do their part and are responsible are just a dice throw away from being among the useless is insulting. Certainly good fortune is nice to have, but to rely on it for a decent life is akin to relying on the lottery for your retirement - in other words, it's really fucking stupid.
I'm aware that you are not a Satanist, but you did come here saying you wanted to see what we're about. So why the surprise? Did you really think we were all singing kumbayah around a campfire or something?
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#435543 - 10/19/10 04:16 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
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Registered: 04/06/09
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What if next month another organization decided gay people, handicapped people, people that steal, crossdressers, whatever were a burden to children that don't exist and offered them something they knew they would rather have NOW instead of a decision they likely haven't even considered, to determine their future. Two words: Personal ResponsibilityIf you think that something like that is a bad idea in the long run and you fall for it anyway, you can’t blame “Big Brother” for your crappy decision-making. If people weren’t such irresponsible idiots, then we wouldn't need things like this in the first place. Also did you just throw “people that steal” in there? That kind of behavior is even more unacceptable and yes it should be controlled, discouraged and punished.
Edited by John Prophet (10/19/10 04:17 PM)
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#435545 - 10/19/10 04:23 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: Adveser]
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Registered: 10/15/10
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Loc: Maryland
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People can choose to do whatever they want with their lives. Just because someone doesn't live up to the standards I set for myself does not mean I have the right to control them. Apparently this organization thinks Big Brother knows best.
Might is right. And what exactly is a "right"? A right is something you take or is given to you and you have the power to keep. If this seems to be paradoxical to the libertarian philosophies of the majority of the members of this board, I would suggest that the paradox is an illusion. Take some time to try and sort it out. Without a map, you will learn a lot.
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#435557 - 10/19/10 05:40 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: Adveser]
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CoS Magister
Registered: 07/28/01
Posts: 11648
Loc: New England, USA
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Respectfully, that assumes every person who does drugs will continue to do so forever and it also assumes any drug use will affect children that have not been born yet, I don't really see how you derived that from Reverend von Tronje's post. You can carry out a sentence on a criminal regardless of whether or not he or she will commit the same crime again.
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#435560 - 10/19/10 05:55 PM
Re: Chlorinating the gene pool
[Re: anna]
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Registered: 11/02/05
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Thank you, Magister, for posting links. That these people should be under temporary birth control is quite reasonable, but sterilising them, even if they agree, is ,at least in my opinion, barbaric. It is for these people a life sentence. If they happen to overcome their addiction they can regret their decision.
It is voluntary, but are drug addicts able to make lifelong decisions? They are sick people and should be given some treatment, therapy, instead of just ostracising them.
Drug problem is too complex, birth control will not solve it. Doctor Jack Kevorkian or his methods would be a great alternative. 
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