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#483359 - 11/29/12 10:05 AM Rudyard Kipling
Lord Xolothi Offline

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The Blanche Barton book " The Church of Satan" open with an dedication at Rudjard Kipling.Kipling is also quote like Satanic author from LaVey in "Satan Speaks".

Now what are at your advice the books or aspects of life of Kipling of Satanic Interest and why?

#483361 - 11/29/12 10:24 AM Re: Rudyard Kipling [Re: Lord Xolothi]
Labyrinthine Offline

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I'm currently reading this on my Kindle:

Rudyard Kipling's Tales of Horror and Fantasy.

I have also read "The White Man's Burden."

He is an extremely good writer, "elite" one could say, and great skill like his is Satanic.

What he writes is very enjoyable to read.
He makes great characters, and captures places in India very well.

He has a bold and daring style.

He was a supporter of 19th/early 20th century Western European imperialism in Africa and India; evaluate that how you like, but give him the chance to express himself on the topic in his own words. Do your own reading on imperialism too.

I am still relatively new to Kipling, but, for what you are looking for, in sum:

-Elite writer

-Bold artist and thinker

I don't know enough about his life to comment on that.

Edited by Labyrinthine (11/29/12 10:25 AM)
Edit Reason: added detail at end

#483362 - 11/29/12 10:51 AM Re: Rudyard Kipling [Re: Lord Xolothi]
Nemo Offline
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Now what are [the] ... aspects ... of Kipling of Satanic Interest and why?

Kipling's poem "If" demonstrates this succinctly:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too:
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim,
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same:
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss:
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much:
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

#483365 - 11/29/12 11:22 AM Re: Rudyard Kipling [Re: Nemo]
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Thank you Magister Nemo!

Awesome poem.

#483366 - 11/29/12 11:52 AM Re: Rudyard Kipling [Re: Lord Xolothi]
MagdaGraham Offline
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If you have time, read them all; some will speak to you

My favorite
We are the makers of manners. (Shakespeare)

#483369 - 11/29/12 04:09 PM Re: Rudyard Kipling [Re: MagdaGraham]
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As always, I pop in at the correct time in my life to find this post of yours.

I'm positive there will be something for me in those wonderful poems.



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