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#49911 - 07/22/04 05:08 PM They're on to us!
TrojZyr Offline
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I found this posted on a board on AOL. It is also posted in the humor section, but Molestrangler assured me that this piece can actually potentially inspire some real conversation if posted here as a serious topic. So, what say you of this article? How do you regard the author's insights into "Satanic control"? Which examples showcase true Satanic attitudes or authentic Satanic control, and which do not? In which cases is the author barking up the wrong trees---identifying the wrong foes, blaming the wrong tactics or identifying tactics improperly, guessing at the wrong end goals, fabricating entirely imaginary scenarios, or, especially and particularly, overlooking real Satanic attitudes and elements of Satanic control? How is the author barking up the right trees?

How does this article reflect the terror of those who are weak or destined to become obsolete, and what other examples of such terror or anxiety have you seen? Any other insights related to this concept?

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The "Quiet War" Against Humanity

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
July 17, 2004

The truth is at once simpler and more horrifying than anyone could conceive.

A satanic cult headquartered in the City of London holds mankind in bondage.

They worship Lucifer and are determined to redefine reality and rule the planet. If you owned an unseemly proportion of the world's wealth, would you share it with the ignorant masses? Wouldn't you teach that God is dead, and Truth and Justice are not absolute and universal?

The religion to fear is Satanism, which has infiltrated Freemasonry and most other religions, institutions and groups. Secret Satanists control the levers of power: credit, mass media, education, government and the church. They pay lip service to Christianity to deceive us.

This cult is gradually corrupting and dehumanizing, conditioning us to passively accept a police state (New World Order). They lull and distract while they eliminate our freedoms and prepare for repression, using phony "terrorism" as a pretext.

In a 1961 lecture, Aldous Huxley described this police state as "the final revolution": a "dictatorship without tears" where people "love their servitude."

He said the goal is to produce " a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away ... but ... will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing ... enhanced by pharmacological methods."

Among these " pharmacological methods" we can now recognize Ritalin, Prozac and Viagra, which healthy men commonly use. Doctors are elite dealers designated to addict and sedate society. A document entitled "Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars" confirms this is part of the quiet war against humanity.

The child must be detached from father and mother at an early age, the document says. "Inoculation of behavioural drugs" can speed this transition from the defunct family unit to "state-controlled public education and state-operated child-care centres."



BLUEPRINT FOR SATANIC SUBVERSION


Dated May 1979, "Quiet Weapons for Silent Wars" (Technical Manual SW7905.1) was found in 1986 in an IBM copier that had been purchased at a surplus sale.

It is the product of a discipline called "Operations Research" developed during WWII to attack enemy populations using tools of social engineering and psychological warfare.

According to the document, the "international elite" decided in 1954 to wage a "quiet war" against the American people with the goal of shifting wealth from "the irresponsible many" into the hands of the "responsible and worthy few."

"In view of the law of natural selection it was agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table [sic] by choice and consent."

The goal was to establish an economy, which is "totally predictable and manipulatible." The masses will have to be "trained and assigned a yoke...from a very early age..."

To achieve such conformity, the "family unit must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the parents and the establishment of government operated daycare centers for the occupationally orphaned children."

This is accomplished through "silent weapons" (propaganda and social engineering) applied in the media and schools.

"The public cannot comprehend this weapon and therefore cannot believe that they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon."

"When the silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts...until the pressure becomes too great and they crack up...Therefore the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare.... It attacks ...their sources of natural and social energy and their physical, mental and emotional strengths..."

Although not mentioned by name, the silent weapon here is Feminism, which promotes lesbianism while posing as the defender of women.

The document says the father must be "house broken." The advertising media see to it that he is "pussy whipped" and "taught that he either conforms...or his sex life will...be zero." The female is "ruled by emotion first and logic second...too starry eyed to see [her child will be] a wealthy man's cannon fodder or a cheap source of slave labor."

The writer concludes, "This mindless school of jelly fish, father, mother, son and daughter, becomes useful beasts of burden..."


" DIVERSION THE PRIMARY STRATEGY"


The document speaks of "gaining control of the public" by keeping them "undisciplined, ignorant, confused, disorganized and distracted."

" Keep the public diverted away from "the real social issues and captivated by matters of no importance." "Sabotage their mental activities" by a "constant barrage of sex, violence and wars in the media" i.e. "mental and emotional rape."

Give them "junk food for thought" and deprive them of what they really need," especially a sound education. "Keep the public entertainment below the sixth-grade level."

"Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy with no time to think; back on the farm with the other animals."

"Destroy the faith of the American people in each other."

The general rule: "there is profit in confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore the best approach is to create problems and then offer solutions."


"THE WELFARE STATE AS STRATEGIC WEAPON"


The public wants the government to "perpetuate their dependency role of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table...tuck them in and tell them everything will be alright...."

This "human god" is the politician who promises the world and delivers nothing. This public behavior is "surrender born of fear, laziness, and expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon, useful against a disgusting public."

The public's lack of resistance is a sign that it "is ripe for surrender and is consenting to enslavement and legal encroachment. A good ...indicator of harvest time is the number of public citizens who pay income tax despite an obvious lack of reciprocal or honest service from the government."


EXAMPLES OF SILENT WEAPONS

People may object that this document is yet another forgery. However, people who are conscious can see that this blueprint has been executed.

The promotion of homosexuality under the guise of "tolerance" and "equality" is an example of the silent weapon.

The equation of homosexual marriage with heterosexual marriage is a brazen denial of the uniqueness of heterosexuality. When they build monuments to human rights, they viciously attack the health and happiness of 97% of the population.

The difference between heterosexuality and homosexuality is one word: children. Homosexuals do not have biological children. Becoming parents is an essential step in heterosexual spiritual and psychological development. This requires that they form a permanent bond that is unique to heterosexuals.

Homosexuals could have a special class of marriage with all the same rights and responsibilities. But they are being used to confuse the majority so heterosexuals can't form a permanent bond and suffer arrested development. (See "Canada Redefines Marriage" )

Feminism is another example. By denying healthy natural heterosexual roles, women usurp the place of men as providers and have fewer or no children, often as single parents. Men become redundant or "wives."

OTHER SILENT WEAPONS

The mass media and education are used to mislead, manipulate, distract and deform. "Mental and emotional rape," they call it. While we have material plenty, our minds and souls are starved.

We are conditioned to think about trivia or evade reality altogether. No coverage or debate is given to the insidious progress of world government and the erosion of national independence.

Because there will be no meaningful nationhood or democracy, the young are not taught history or civic virtues. Sex is promoted as a lifelong obsession. Pornography is rampant. We are not supposed to have mature concerns, such as the sort of world our children will inherit.

When was the last time you saw a movie that taught or inspired you? That contained recognizable human situations and emotions? That addressed the real issues we face? That made you glad to be alive and love humanity? When did a movie present a hero you could adopt as a role model?

Mankind has the intelligence to create a wonderful world. We have been sabotaged. Satan's disciples are responsible. They are responsible the murder of dozens of Presidents and other leaders, for depression, genocide and war including the bogus "Cold War" and it's successor the "War on Terror." All wars are organized by this satanic cult against humanity.

Their headquarters is Chatham House in London and their branch office is at Pratt House in NYC. The web of control extends through the Rockefeller Rothschild banking and oil cartels, corporations, foundations, intelligence networks and governments. The logos of scores of huge corporations, including new media, contain Masonic references.

Our political, economic and cultural "leaders" have sold their souls and betrayed society. They are literally servants of Satan. Otherwise they would not tolerate both Presidential candidates being members of a Satanic Secret Society, the Skull and Bones. They would not tolerate the obvious ruse that took place Sept. 11. They imagine they will retain their privileged positions in the New World Order. History has shown that everyone is expendable.

CONCLUSION

We call ourselves "progressive", but the progress is toward depravity and extinction. When we agreed God was dead, we signed our death warrant. While man was made in His image, human life was Sacred. When we rejected God, we became expendable. That's why the author of "Silent Wars" can refer to us as "beasts of burden" and use the "Darwinian struggle" to justify enslavement and genocide.

Satan is not content to destroy us physically. He has a wager with God. Are we made in God's image or not? In order to win, he needs to prove we are nothing but dumb animals.

Lack of resistance signifies our acquiescence. We have been progressively demoralized and lulled. We must shake off our stupor and show that we are men and not jelly fish. We will not forfeit our Divine birthright.

This is a battle humanity can never evade. The longer it is postponed the harder it will be to win.

See also "Wall Street's Utopian Hoax"
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"The strong rule the weak, and the cunning rule over all." HS!

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#49912 - 07/22/04 05:36 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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Quote:

He said the goal is to produce " a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away ... but ... will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing ... enhanced by pharmacological methods."




We're already there. Our esteemed journalist just doesn't realize it.

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#49913 - 07/22/04 06:31 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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There are no specific references to "A satanic cult headquartered in the City of London". Who are "they"? Where can I meet "them"? Without this fundamental information, everything else that follows is simply opinion stated as fact.

Alongside his liberal use of misquotation and lack of referential index, Makow's extensive use of "they" and "we" and the modal operators of possibility, "may" and "can", remind me of Miltonian hypnotic patterns to elicit identification and unconscious agreement in the reader - in this he is reasonably clever, yet hardly deserving of a Ph.D.

I think of Satanic control as invisible, thus when people like Makow can perceive it then it isn't Satanic.
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#49914 - 07/22/04 07:31 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: Entity]
TrojZyr Offline
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I think the guy was referring to the ONA. That's my best guess.

thus when people like Makow can perceive it then it isn't Satanic.

I would tend to agree with you there.

Ideally, the visible schemes would just be "wagged dogs" to distract from the real schemes. Wheels within wheels. But then, that means Makow doesn't get to feel so smart and on top of everything anymore.
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#49915 - 07/22/04 09:57 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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hm... I have to say though I can not in great detail explain my thoughts... as a comment, I have to say that we'll... *Bravo*... at least someone's on the same track(sarcasticly speaking), looks like nothing still stands in our way... But one thing that caught my eye was this "place in London"... I believe they may be attempting to reference the Hellfireclub(Not to be confused with the "Electric Hellfireclub". Sounds like they are too affraid to name names. But... here are my responses:
So, what say you of this article?
Interesting... especially the website.

How do you regard the author's insights into "Satanic control"? I hold Satanic control; more as an influence (and at an utmost high regard), which ultimately proves this guy correct, but to the degree of which he speaks concerning how Satanists have this gathering and plot this whole course out shit, I'd give a lot to be in those shoes! But this being the case, I think it sounds at this point, blown out of proportion.

Which examples showcase true Satanic attitudes or authentic Satanic control, and which do not? Well, the whole concept of control. I consider control to be a Satanic attitude all the way to the examples of the Yezidi. (Try reading Adventures In Arabia: Among the Bedouins, and the Yezidi Devil-Worshippers William Seabrook) If you have, the examples I tend to agree on are in the text, and Yezidi practice. Granite, this may sound strange however it always seemed to me, on the level of Greater Magic. LaVey mentions the invisible war; and I think that is amoung the Satanic attitude(s) mentioned but going around it as in these examples I can't hold Satanism so much as an influence (seems some what contradictory, I know) but it seems to me, that nature, evolution through society it is like society(man) is finding these ways to do things that just aren't in the best interest of Christianity why not blame Satanism right? But then again the world moves forward in our favor. *muahahaa*

In which cases is the author barking up the wrong trees---identifying the wrong foes, blaming the wrong tactics or identifying tactics improperly, guessing at the wrong end goals, fabricating entirely imaginary scenarios, or, especially and particularly, overlooking real Satanic attitudes and elements of Satanic control? ..sorry don't have enough time at the moment to point out examples but here is one: the part about Diversion Satanism is about ridding diversion in a sense, yet in the Christian perspective, Satanism is Diversion. It just seems subjective to say that all these things are Diverting from "the truth and the way." The concept of (an ultimate truth)what is or isn't truth seems to be a Diversion from understanding anything to be truth on your own. "Why ask why", ...make sure it's worth your time. ...one more example is the guessing of the wrong goals...that Satanism is the cause of making men "redundant or wives"*fart sound*... this whole things points the finger at Satanism without reference to much of anything... but there sure as hell are a lot of " " ' s ...

How is the author barking up the right trees?
Do you mean barking up the right tree or do you mean is he correct about or on to something?

How does this article reflect the terror of those who are weak or destined to become obsolete, and what other examples of such terror or anxiety have you seen? We'll, when I was younger and "church-ridden", and during the war in the Gulf, everyone thought Saddam was the next Anti-Christ... lo and behold... Bush nextly types him as such.

Any other insights related to this concept?
Maybe I mentioned a few already, but other than that, not really, I'm not in that type of cult yet. *haha* One last comment, there are certain things though that I wish to the devil so to speak, were true and related to Satanism, and those are the times when I look at the news and really Shout, "HAIL SATAN!"

http://www.sirus1.com/default.htm

http://www.rense.com/general54/makk.htm

http://www.savethemales.ca/000504.html <--there you have it.


Edited by Chef_E_Val (07/23/04 09:18 PM)

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#49916 - 07/23/04 09:55 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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Sometimes, people with an agenda are trying so hard to read between the lines, that they forget to read the lines themselves. Specifically, it seems as though they forget to read their own words.

Aside from being a mildly entertaining excercise in hysterics on par with a teenage activist, his arguments can perhaps be summarized as:

"Whatever you do, DO NOT worship the NEW GOD! Worship the OLD GOD."

It has been said that 'religion is the opiate of the masses'.

Trivial culture, new fangled gadgets, television, drugs for imaginary problems induced through the power of suggestion... all of these things simply replace the old religions.

The writer never understands what's right under his nose.

The masses have always been slaves under the sway of some propaganda. He's just pissy that people laugh off the old propaganda in favor of something new. They're following the bouncing ball, while he's lost and babbling. If you're going to be a good slave, for Dogsake, man--try to keep up!

I'd like to wipe my ass with his PhD. What a moron!




Another thing I find ironic is that the most certain way to ensure a decent in the quality of life, at least as I understand 'quality of life', is to follow the 'traditional' dictate: 'go forth and multiply'.

You can have all of the kids you want, but their grandchildren's children will squeeze their large God-fearing families into tiny flats. But those masochists would love that. They dig earthly suffering.

Steady population growth will ensure that homes will become hovels, that we will all work for giant corporations and perform meaningless bureauocratic tasks, that we will sit in more traffic, wait in longer lines, eat less meat, see less beautiful scenery...

Does it really matter whether we're all watching 'The 700 Club' or 'The Simple Life'? In the end, the result is a complete wash.

The Church of Satan registration files are the ultimate 'opt out' list. Let them eat bread, let them eat cake, it really doesn't matter--we'll suck the marrow out of life either way.

Hail Satan!

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#49917 - 07/23/04 10:24 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: Rev_Malebranche]
TrojZyr Offline
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Judging by the looks of things, good sir, an arse has already touched the fellow's PhD, long before you could've gotten to it.

It is rather interesting (but, not entirely surprising) how people so often fail to objectively analyze their own biases and beliefs as critically and closely as they analyze others'. I have often heard Christians give detailed, precise critiques of Islam, Wicca, and Buddhism, and are completely aghast when anyone suggests that those same critiques can be applied to Christianity. No doubt other types of people do the same thing on a regular basis. "Oooh, but we're different!" they cry, and then demonstrate that they really aren't. They look fondly upon the propaganda of their own age as being the way things are, and therefore the way things ought to be.

As for people popping babies and filling up filthy flats, I have noticed how few people--especially religious types-- seem to understand that life is more than a biological event.What makes your life worth living, and really gives it spice and meaning, is not that your eyes are blinking, your heart is beating, and your lungs are inhaling and exhaling, although these things are obviously vital. What makes life, Life, is the experiences, the thoughts, and the encounters. So, for instance, it's lame to protest gay marriages and gay adoption and then exclaim that you are not being disrespectful, unloving, or unfair because you're not, after all, promoting killing them or anything like that! It is equally lame to be pro-life but not give a damn if families live in total squalor. Ending a life is hardly the only way to show disrespect or disregard for it, and in fact, there are fates equal to or more torturous than death. But, naturally, many people don't really reach for life and savor it, don't comprehend what it really means or can really mean, so this point will naturally elude them.

And yes, while people are popping out more unwanted, un-needed, unappreciated, and unhelpful lives, open country disappears, everyday crowds increase in size, crime escalates, public discourse gets all the more hairy, prisons and schools become overcrowded, and the already poorly utilized supplies of natural resources are exhausted further. And for what? So that several thousand more people can wander around, hate themselves, and take their desperate, melancholy aggression out on themselves and each other, to no end purpose.

What a sad pattern it is for them.

Yet, life can go on for me and mine--prosperously and joyfully-- because I actively choose for it do so.
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#49918 - 07/24/04 01:09 AM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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Oh no!

They've caught me! Arrgh. My plans of dominion of the masses of weakminded humans has been unravelled! Drat! Curse you Batma...

Oh.. Oops.

I grant a tinfoil hat to the original composer of this wonderful peice of conspiracy theory entertainment. The author was right about keeping the entertainment level to that of a 6th grade level. A 7th grader could have added some body and at least one time dilation scene with Keanu Reeves wearing a black trenchcoat and dark sunglasses...

To sum up the article.

He's upset because Jesus and his Band of Merry *cough* homosexual *cough* men has been one-upped by Spongebob Squarepants.

The author bought the Christian pie-in-the-sky story, and wants everyone else to eat Pope shit just like him.

It's no surprise that things are working out the way they are. The wealthy are controlling things, keeping the cattle happy while they are milked. Once in a while you have to send a few to the slaughter house when they breed too many moon-eyed calves. The thing is, anyone can pull themselves out of the rat-race if the really want to work to those ends. There are more opportunities now to make oneself happy, content, and independantly wealthy than there EVER have been before at any point in time.

It's just that doing it would take a special combination of effort, discipline, talent, and desire. Those that REALLY don't want to be herdlings will find a way out if the ratrace, and there has never been a better time to do so. The wealthy have provided numerous opportunities (quite generously I might add) for people to dig themselves out of the working stiff life they live. Usually you just need to ask them to help you help yourself.

If you can't beat the wealthy elite, join them.

Jesus says; "Fuck the here-and-now 'Store of Treasures in Heaven.'"

But a Satanist might be inclined to say in rebuttal: "You only have the here and now, make the most of your youth you only have it ONCE. Eat, Drink and be merry, for in 80 years you will die."

This attitude and belief undercuts the income of the nagging Jehovahphiles. We can't have this. The dying Jehovah needs life support and you had better pay the bills or else they'll hit you with a guilt trip that would make Aunt Vera green with envy.
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#49919 - 07/24/04 03:11 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: Felstorm]
TrojZyr Offline
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All hail the new deity, Lord Spongebob. For I walk in the valley of the shadow of sea anemones, I shall fear no giant retarded pink starfish wearing undearwear, for thou art with me.

I think you're quite right that the opportunities for most people are steadily increasing, but many of these opportunities require creativity and skill in order to be used to their full capacity. So, for people of limited creativity, skill, and not to mention chutzpah, it's as if the opportunities are decreasing, because the new looks so radically different from the old in many ways.

Good imagery, by the way.
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"The strong rule the weak, and the cunning rule over all." HS!

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#49920 - 07/25/04 09:25 AM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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Well, I find that for myself, the Satanic ideal is to move as a serpent in the grass, get what I want and live life well. The masses make their own grave, and will always blame the 'enemy' they have created in their own spooked heads.
They have their 'god', and will always return to him as the ultimate and humble victim. I think that global control is being done through the networking of computers, and it sums up to wealth and power. A christian only needs god, not wealth or power. What is their complaint? THey dont need it anyway, and a religionist is supposed to be fodder, slaves to the evil ones of earth...what is their complaint!
In reality though, they make their beds and have to lay in their own crap if they accept it. Its the way of the follower. If the phd wants to go back to his traditional fears, why even bother to ring the bell to awaken the crazed herds? Why not just go to heaven.
What I am really trying to say, is that they make their own fears, because in their own way of living, the herds will always be the herds. The wealthy take advantage of them...the Satanist makes her/his own way. Everything else is just a tool, or an amusement. That's my take on the silly PHD's fears.

Glory
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#49921 - 07/25/04 08:15 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: GloryS9]
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Let's not forget that even the wealthy can fall for religous guilt trips and even be drawn into the herd mentality. Wealth is not what produces a strong minded person. Those who seek out wealth and achieve it are one step above the majority but they very well could still be stuck in self-destructive herd behavior. A sheep could very much disbelieve in some form of a spirituality but still be conditioned to follow social labels and movements. Religion is replaced by conforming social comfort.

Wealth can also be a form of fake comfort. As long as they have the money to spend it on useless crap that they crave to stay updated and "cool" they remain happily programed, even if they are a millionaire. Sooner or later they will dig their own graves. Destined to live a worthless repetitive life.

A truly Satanic individual will seek out what he needs to survive first then indulge in his wants later. He does not necessarily seek out wealth but instead he seeks out enjoyment. If he wishes more or sees that his life is lacking he changes it and gains what he had desired.
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#49922 - 07/26/04 12:06 AM Re: They're on to us! [Re: TrojZyr]
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I tend to agree that people are like cattle and that the dark force of nature has many of them living to serve as slaves. I consider most people as future nutrients for the soil that I myself walk upon, good for nothing more than to be the army of wars and industry.

I agree that some of the methods listed for the control of the masses are valid. One solid look around confirms that much.

I do not agree with the paranoid scenario concerning some master plan of control at work though. This world has always had its' share of the strong subjecting the weak in one form or another. I do not tend to think that the most (in)visibly powerful people are "above" means of some control either. Rome respected the power of the mob. Rome feared the waking of that giant, and soothed its' slumber any way that it could, confident that the control held over it was marginal at best. The mob may be stupid(self imposed, of course), but it sure can be dangerous.

I can only hope that the writer and his peers have some firm belief in their own stories. I also hope that the large majority of people that read that stuff get hooked on it as well. It in-itself is an opiate of distraction, intended to force a level of blindness upon those caught up within its' words. It is what it claims to be against...control of individual will, and freedom. It is manipulation of the stunned and slack-jawed, for its' own purpose.

Good. Not very graceful, but good enough to pull some suckers into it.

When some people feel the need to foster a belief in that kind of stuff ( and share that information with me) I tend to feed their fear with eager enthusiasm. "Sure there is some large conspiracy! Few can be trusted with this! I know!"
They so hope that *someone* will come to the rescue and start the revolution, but when asked what they are doing about "it" themselves, a form of confused quiet descends upon them. That is when I blurt out, " Ah, hell! What do I care anyway? I would rather be a well fed slave to the whole thing, instead of dying some nasty death to fix it!"

Have you ever noticed how twitchy some people get over some harmless words? I would liken the reaction to my last statement as some form of a fit. People start plucking at themselves with their fingers, and their movements get all staccato jerks and birdlike.

I seldom get bothered with further conspiracy theories.



Great idea for a post by the way.

Regards, Hail Satan.

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#49923 - 07/26/04 11:09 AM Re: They're on to us! [Re: HLGwyn]
TrojZyr Offline
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Oh, don't get me wrong, many people do have their rightful niche in society, and are not entirely useless or worthless--far from it. The machine of society needs both cogs and sophisticated microchips, and if it consisted entirely of one or the other, its function would be diminished. Our society needs both doctors and janitors, artists and factory workers, those who isolate themselves and those who pour themselves into society. The hard work and drudgery of the herd allows us extra play time.

Of course, there are those who are completely useless, because they take more than they give, and/or cause more wanton destruction than productive construction. Unfortunately, I can't even say such types will be useful in fertilizing the soil, because they'll be trapped in a box and pumped full of formaldehyde.

You mentioned mobs. The mob can indeed be dangerous and/or influential, especially and primarily when they find a charismatic leader or two to organize and direct their energy.(To wit, the whole mass becomes a formidable giant with eyes and opposable thumbs, as it is weighty, but possesses a sense of direction and the ability to tinker with a specific goal.) Most real movements in history--the Civil Rights movement, peace rallies, the Communist Revolution, the French Revolution, the American Revolution-- consisted of a mob of people being inspired, instructed, motivated, and/or led by one or a few unique, inspired leaders.

Meanwhile, you can think of leaderless mobs as being globular masses of loose cannons (however that works )--mostly random, purposeless destruction, fueled by adrenaline, a la Woodstock '99, sports riots, the burning of Watts, etc.

When you balance mob matters with the matters addressed in previous posts in this thread, it becomes clear that the best option is to neither overestimate nor underestimate your own power or immunity. To overestimate one's power and immunity means that one may lose sight of when mobs of the herd become dangerous. This means that one may lose sight of when it is time to attack, act, or flee in response to a growing threat. To underestimate one's power and immunity is to be like our dear little PhD (or any petulant religionist or a whiny would-be activist), who can never "let go" of what other people are up to and go on with life.
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#49924 - 07/26/04 01:29 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: Discipline]
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I agree, Discipline. I didnt mean to come off that way, if I did!
I do think though, that our cleverness is a powerful ingredient towards wealth and power, as we understand what is really happening in the world.

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#49925 - 07/26/04 01:45 PM Re: They're on to us! [Re: GloryS9]
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I agree, Discipline. I didnt mean to come off that way, if I did!

You did not come off that way at all. I more or less relpied in case someone else may have seen it in that form.

I do think though, that our cleverness is a powerful ingredient towards wealth and power, as we understand what is really happening in the world.

Absolutely. If a Satanist so chooses to seek out great wealth and power.


Edited by Discipline (07/26/04 01:46 PM)
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